- Dr. Horowitz is author of Emerging Viruses:
AIDS & Ebola , a comprehensive, well-documented exposé of
the role of tainted vaccines in the creation of genocidal AIDS and Ebola
epidemics. He holds a Ph.D. in dental medicine from Tufts University, Master
of Public Health from Harvard University, and MA in health education from
- WT: There's a lot of paranoia on the
Net right now about anthrax vaccine. Should people take it or not?
- LH: Well, President Clinton won't take
the vaccine  because he's no fool. I'm extremely concerned that anthrax
vaccine is untrustworthy and that military personnel, when they sign up,
turn their lives over to untrustworthy people. You'd have to be a fool,
given the information we have in our possession, to take the anthrax vaccine,
or any other vaccine that the FDA and/or the Department of Defense approves
or tries to push on military personnel or citizens of the United States.
- WT: Why?
- LH: Numerous reasons. Everything from
the most apparently benign vaccine to the tetanus vaccine used to sterilize
hundreds of thousands of women during experiments, to Gulf War Syndrome,
which is undoubtedly related and linked to vaccines.
- We now have evidence that the potential
initiator of Gulf War Syndrome was an AIDS vaccine that was being tested
on uninformed and unconsenting troops. We have documentation that shows
that General Schwartzkopf and General Powell were absolute outrageous liars
in the congressional hearing statements and that the entire Gulf War congressional
investigating panel, led by Jay Rockefeller, was a complete travesty to
truth and justice.
- We have this documentation on a new three-hour
video called "Gulf War Syndrome: the Spreading Epidemic Cover-up"
. It shows that during the Gulf War, our troops were exposed to experimental
vaccines and experimental drugs, that sustained drug interactions and vaccine
damage were the result, and that the federal government still refuses to
acknowledge the truth and the facts.
- In no uncertain terms would I allow myself
to be inoculated, nor would any rational human being, given the evidence.
Which is the real intelligent reason why President Clinton has refused
to be vaccinated with anthrax vaccine. So as Commander in Chief of the
military he would allow his military personnel to be vaccinated when he
himself has refused!
- WT: USAMRIID [U.S. Army Medical Research
Institute of Infectious Diseases] has stated  that "there are insufficient
data regarding efficacy against inhalation anthrax in humans, although
studies in rhesus monkeys indicate it is protective." So why are they
- LH: Good question. Anthrax has been a
fairly easy-to-reproduce microorganism that lots of people have capability
of reproducing and spreading. Why all of a sudden would the Pentagon reverse
its long-held position that it should not be administered? Haven't they
learned enough from the Gulf War Syndrome?
- WT: What evidence do you have that anthrax
vaccine is contaminated?
- LH: Look at all the vaccines. For example,
the Clinton administration has stated that it's mandatory that 12-hour-old
infants get hepatitis B vaccine. This is insane. It has no risk/benefit
analysis done to it. We don't know if this vaccine is killing and maiming
more people than it's helping. Besides the fact that this particular vaccine
has carcinogenic enzymes in it, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to
give it to infants, because 96 percent plus of the people who get hepatitis
B get it through sexual transmission or IV drug use. Plus the fact that
those who get it develop life-long immunity and they do not develop major
- The issue becomes how many people are
being harmed by getting these vaccines. According to the CDC's own data
, potentially 25,000 to 35,000 people were injured from that one vaccine.
And consider all 18 or so vaccines that the federal government now is allegedly
mandating (you still have religious and spiritual exemptions, so it's really
against your civil rights to be told you must get a vaccine for school
or work). If you use the CDC's own data, your find you have an ongoing
holocaust of vaccine-induced injuries to the tune of as many as 800,000
vaccine-induced injuries occurring every year in the United States that
you don't hear a word about from the federal government or mainstream media.
So isn't that strange?
- But today in the newspaper you do hear
that the federal government wants to reevaluate nutritional supplements
because three college wrestlers died of taking hormones. And yet we have
800,000 people sustaining vaccine-induced injuries, and you don't hear
a word about it. If you don't think, given that information, that there's
a covert operation here or an alternative agenda here...
- WT: What's the agenda?
- LH: According to top military personnel
that I've interviewed from the Pentagon, the apparent agenda is a new world
order where a strong U.S. military represents a liability.
- WT: Sounds crazy. Why would they jeopardize
their own troops?
- LH: Because if you have rah-rah American
patriotic military people who are stockpiling weapons and these people
are healthy, happy, and prosperous, and you tell them "No, you've
got to put down your guns and give up your national sovereignty and take
orders from U.N. peacekeeping officials, and NATO Alliance officers,"
and soldiers are asked whether they'd be willing to shoot on American citizens
before they give them a gun .... It may sound like foolish conspiratorial
nonsense, until you evaluate you who this information is coming from: the
senior Pentagon officials I've interviewed who take this threat seriously.
- WT: Richard Preston [author, The Cobra
Event] recently said  the Russians are actively developing advanced,
genetically-engineered bioweapons and working with the Club Mad rogue nations
and Jane's Defence Weekly  just announced that Russia has developed
a highly contagious super black plague. Aren't those realistic external
- LH: The Russians had the capabilities
for doing this for years, so when you read these press reports, what are
they really telling you that's new? They're telling you propaganda. What's
the motivation behind the news? It's persuasion. Look at the motive behind
the persuasion, and what is it? They're preparing us for biological holocaust
and they're going to blame it on the Muslims, Christian patriots, and militia
groups. The militia groups are already dysfunctional because they're penetrated
- Interesting that our good old friend
Larry Wayne Harris  is again in the center of this controversy. He alleges
to be a Christian and patriot, and yet he goes to the Preparedness Expositions
and shows the hardware to produce and disperse the bioweapons and tells
you and writes  how to go out and produce these bioweapons and distribute
them. This man acknowledges being a CIA operative, acknowledges having
friends from the CIA that feed him, alleges he was involved with the CDC.
- American intelligence officials are seeding
authors, reporters, and investigative journalists, saying that it's the
Christian patriots who are now the ones who are suspected of being the
future terrorists in bioweapons attacks. If this isn't an obvious setup,
my name isn't Len Horowitz. Harris is setting up the Christian and patriot
movements to be the fall guys for the most untrustworthy people who are
in charge of these bioweapons.
- When you look at the videotape [Gulf
War Syndrome: the Spreading Epidemic Cover-up], you see that we -- the
U.S. government and our companies -- supplied Saddam Hussein with biological
and chemical weapons at least up until two weeks before he invaded Kuwait
. And now there's some evidence that Joyce Riley  cites that he may
have even been getting these during the war.
- And when you see who is involved in the
corporations that developed the vaccines that most plausibly initiated
Gulf War Syndrome, such as Tanox Biosystems  of Houston, Texas -- co-owned
by James Baker III, secretary of state under George Bush, who is a major
shareholder in Tanox -- it was George Bush who said this aggression shall
not stand, and it was his administration who supplied Saddam Hussein with
all the military and biochemical weapons they needed. And when you see
these people tested those vaccines on prisoners in Huntsville Prison in
Texas and they developed Gulf War Syndrome-like symptoms long before the
Gulf War, can you trust these people?
- WT: What do you know about Michigan Biologic
Products Labs, the sole supplier of anthrax vaccine to the military?
- LH: Look for links to I. G. Farben, George
Bush, and the Nazis. It's seldom I don't find that those who are suspected
of foul play are not led by the people or their heirs who were intimately
involved in the biological weapons industry under Hitler and that we in
the U.S. were literally partners with those people. I'm speaking about
the well-documented historical partnership between I.G. Farben, Bayer,
Merck & Co, and the Rockefellers .
- In fact, the president of Merck, George
W. Merck, was America's biological weapons industry director, personally
appointed by President Roosevelt and Secretary of War Stinson in the early
1940s. And in 1945, when Hitler realized he was going to lose the war,
he ordered Martin Bormann, the Third Reich's economic chief, to bury his
war chest to assure Germany's economic recovery after WW II, but also to
assure a virtual monopoly over the world's pharmaceutical and chemical
industries and the "rise of the Fourth Reich." Much of that money
went into Merck & Co.
- Now this at the exact time that George
W. Merck is advising President Roosevelt on America's biological weapons
status, as director of the industry. And follow the history of those Nazis,
including Erik Traub, Hitler's top bioweapons developer -- who was brought
over by Henry Kissinger and General Bolling in Project Paperclip -- and
the exportation of 2000 Nazis into the U.S. industrial and intelligence
organizations. And Traub went to work for the U.S. Navy biological research
lab, which is affiliated with many of the academic institutions in the
U.S. that are the premier biological weapons development and testing operations.
- You have to begin to see that there is
a whole underlying network of extraordinarily wealthy individuals, in fact,
who have an ideology for population reduction, and specifically, the Merck
company's fund as well as the Rockefeller Foundation, two of the premier
American population control funding agencies. And when you see that these
people are multinational supporters, and you understand that their ideology
for population reduction follows the same reasoning that Hitler followed
with racial hygiene: to make it American intelligence's and national security's
primary interest for foreign policy.
- This policy was funded by Prescott Bush
(George Bush's father), General William Draper, and the Rockefellers --
the first people in the congress in 1968 that came out in favor of population
reduction in the third world -- and translated into legislation by Henry
Kissinger in National Security Memorandum 200, penned in 1971.
- So you begin to see that these are the
same people with the same agenda and the same money. And far more money
because they've invested it all those years. And today's history that is
unfolding before our eyes is a repeat.
- WT: According to the U.S. Army Medical,
Chemical, and Biological Defense Program , the Anthrax vaccine licensed
to USAMRIID is a killed vaccine tested to be free of mycoplasma incognitus
(although it admits that "It is a difficult organism to detect under
some circumstances") and has been available since the early 70s. So
what makes you think it's potentially contaminated?
- LH: That's the exact period of time I've
been talking about. It doesn't matter of it's dead or alive. The anthrax
bacterial protein, when it combines with your own host cell proteins, forms
what is called an "antigenic complex": a combination of your
own host cell protein with a foreign bacterial protein. The body recognizes
the entire complex as foreign, and it mounts an immune response against
the entire complex, including against your own host cell protein. And now
you have an autoimmune illness developing that results in autoimmune diseases
such as lupus, chronic fatigue, multiple sclerosis, and rheumatoid arthritis
and doctors say "We don't know what caused this." They're doing
it for population reduction.
- WT: Of course, unlike bioweapons, vaccines
can target specific groups (except perhaps for genetically-engineered bioweapons).
- LH: Exactly. For example, the most plausible
vaccine that initiated AIDS was the 1976 and 1978 strain of hepatitis B
given to retarded children, gay men, and blacks -- the same targets as
Hitler. And now they're targeting militia groups.