There was a hearing yesterday in the Indiana Superior Court regarding Obama/Soetoro's eligibility to be on the ballot. Below, exactly as I received them, are two items on what happened.

What I didn't see was the real meat of the issue: Barry Soetoro's father was a foreign national at the time of bouncing Barry's birth. Not a U.S. Citizen or even a naturalized citizen making Soetoro forever ineligible. There's no question about that - unless a person supports the Red in the White House. He simply is not and will never be a natural born citizen.

I guess we'll see if the judge in the case below is a coward or rules for the truth. The birth certificate is clearly a forgery; Soetoro has been passing it off as genuine.
 
HOWEVER, and I tried to tell this to Orly Taitz a couple of years ago about using fake ID's and banking on that SSN to get him off the ballot:
 
http://rense.com/general93/ssn_dev.htm
 
"Obama/Soetoro has been using a fake SSN to obtain school loans, employment, entrance to the Illinois Bar and other monetary gains. But, guess what? According to the courts, using someone else's SSN isn't really a crime! Courts: Using another's SSN not a crime

"Is using a forged Social Security Number -- but your own name -- to obtain employment or buy a car an identity theft crime? Lately, U.S. courts are saying it's not.

"The most recent judicial body to take on the issue, the Colorado Supreme Court, ruled last month that a man who used his real name but someone else's Social Security number to obtain a car loan was not guilty of "criminal impersonation," overturning convictions by lower courts.

"That follows a ruling last year by the U.S. Supreme Court that a Mexican man who gave a false SSN to get a job at an Illinois steel plant could not be convicted under federal identity theft laws because he did not knowingly use another person's identifying number. The ruling overturned an opinion by a federal appeals court in St. Louis -- and contradicted earlier findings by circuit courts in the Southeast, upper Midwest and the Gulf states.

"It hasn't been a shutout for identity theft prosecutors, however. In July, an Iowa state appeals court came to the opposite conclusion, affirming a lower court decision that a man who used a California woman's SSN to obtain employment was guilty of breaking that state's identity theft law.

"Identity theft can take many forms, but one of the most vexing is so-called "SSN-only" ID theft. In it, an impostor uses a victim's SSN --- sometimes purchased from a broker, sometimes nine digits pulled out of thin air -- to obtain credit or to provide necessary documentation to obtain work. In many cases, SSN "borrowing" is successful and the impostor goes undetected for years.

"At the heart of all these cases is a simple question: Does the mere use of an anonymous victim's SSN break identity theft laws?

"Mari Frank, a California-based lawyer and identity theft victim advocate, said courts are failing to recognize the real harm caused by impostors, even if imposters are unaware of that harm."

"Bull. The impostor doesn't know how they can destroy another person's life by stealing and using that insidious number. And, don't tell me it isn't the intent of criminals (illegal aliens) to steal SSN's:

"During this segment on illegals stealing YOUR social security number to gain access to jobs that belong to Americans, this is what one man said during a live interview: "Hector Angel, Relative of Swift Employee: Everybody has to do what they have to do to make a living. I agree with that, that it's wrong. But at the same time, it's not, because, you know, we are human beings."

"So, even though it's wrong to steal the identity of an American, it's not really because "we're all human beings." It's okay to smuggle yourself across the border, steal someone else's identity and credit history because, after all, "we're just human beings." It's okay to smuggle yourself across the border and take a job that lawfully belongs to an American because, golly, warm, fuzzy - "we're just human beings." This is how these criminals think: they know they're breaking the law, but any politically correct excuse will be used to justify their actions."

Chattanooga: Use of false IDs not necessarily illegal in Pilgrim's Pride case

"A federal judge has suggested that when two men used fake Social Security cards to gain employment at the local Pilgrim's Pride plant, they might not technically have broken the law.

"Juan Luis Dardon-Canelo and Andres Loarca-Reynoso, along with three others, are being criminally prosecuted in the wake of a large immigration raid in April. The pair arrived in court Monday expecting to plead guilty to using a fraudulent illegal identification document - a Social Security card - to get jobs at Pilgrim's Pride.

"U.S. District Judge Harry S. Mattice's suggestion that a Social Security card is not necessarily a form of identification, however, has allowed more time for the defense to evaluate whether guilty pleas are appropriate.

"I'm not sure you can base this charge on a false Social Security card," Judge Mattice said during the hearing, noting that another federal judge dropped a similar charge against Tyson Foods because of a loophole in U.S. immigration law. The 2003 Tyson Foods trial in Chattanooga concerned allegations, among other things, that the company had smuggled Mexicans across the border to work at various plants. The government accused Tyson of hiring the Mexicans even though the company knew they were using false ID documents - in this case, Social Security cards, too - in order to get jobs. But the defense argued that the portion of U.S. immigration law under which the company was charged does not expressly list a Social Security card as a form of ID."

"Why should any of us bother to follow any laws any longer in this country? From the Outlaw Congress violating the supreme law of the land everyday to judges giving free rides to illegal aliens and now stealing and using someone else's SSN, America is becoming a lawless nation."
 
I believe using a forged birth certificate to run for public office is a crime, but I guess we'll see what happens. Obama/Soetoro can always say his mother obtained it and he had no idea there was a problem.



Indiana Judge Hears Obama Forgery Evidence

Defense Attorneys Object Vigorously to Testimony of Two Professional Witnesses


Putative President Barack Obama Accused of Identity Fraud
Press release
Law office of Orly Taitz
October 22, 2012

Today a trial was conducted in Indianapolis Indiana on the issue of Declaratory relief and injunctive relief due to Obama's use of a forged Birth Certificate, a forged Selective Service Certificate, and fraudulently-obtained Connecticut Social Security number 042-68-4425.

The presiding judge is a Superior Court Judge Sherry K. Reid. For the plaintiffs appeared attorneys Orly Taitz and local Indiana counsel Greg Black. For the defense appeared Deputy United States Attorney General Kenneth Joel and Deputy United States Attorney General Jefferson Garn.

Over an extremely rigorous objection by the defense, Judge Reid admitted into evidence exhibits and testimony of witnesses Paul Irey and Felicito Papa.

Mr. Papa testified that he had graduated from the Indiana Institute of Technology and had some 20 years of experience with Adobe Illustrator program.

He testified that Obama's birth certificate opened in the Adobe illustrator computer software program in 9 layers, which means that this is a document which underwent computer manipulation. Mr. Papa testified that it cannot be a genuine document, as in 1961 there was no Adobe Illustrator. Birth certificates in 1961 were created not on the computer, but with a typewriter. He stated his opinion that this is a forgery. His exhibits, showing layers within the document, were admitted into evidence.


Mr. Paul Irey testified that he has 57 years of experience working for NSA and later advertising, typesetting and computer graphics programs.

Mr. Irey testified that Obama's alleged birth certificate is a computer-generated forgery.

Mr. Irey presented a large display board with exhibits, on which he showed enlargements of all the letters in Obama's birth certificate. He vividly demonstrated that letters came from different typesetting, which in itself is a proof of forgery.

Additionally Mr. Irey testified that when a document is printed with a typewriter, the spaces between the letters are the same. However, in Obama's birth certificate the spacing varies, which is a sign of a forgery.

Mr. Irey also testified that there is a white "halo" around letters in Obama's birth certificate, which can exist only as a result of computer manipulation. Mr. Irey testified that Obama's birth certificate is a computer-generated forgery.

A decision by the court is expected within a week.

More information on this and other cases will be posted on Orly TaitzESQ.com

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