- Adnan Oktar, internationally known by his pen name Harun
Yahya, is a Turkish public intellectual, writer and speaker. He is a proponent
of Islamic creationism and anti-Zionism. He condemns Zionism and denounces
Darwinism as the source of terrorism. He runs the Turkey-based Science
Research Foundation and Foundation to Protect National Values. He has written
numerous best-selling books including "The Atlas of Creation",
"The Muslim Way of Speaking", "Allah's Miracles in the Quran"
and "The Errors the American National Academy of Sciences". Yahya's
books have been translated in more than 20 languages.
- He has been interviewed by several international media
outlets, newspapers, TV channels and online magazines including Catholic
Radio International, Russia's Pravda, Qatar's Aljazeera, Tehran Times,
Saudi Arabia's Arab News and Swedish National Radio.
- Here is the complete text of interview with Mr. Yahya
in which the latest developments of the Middle East, Israel's war threats
against Iran, the prospect of Iran-Turkey relations and the ordeal of Palestinian
nation under the Israeli oppression have been discussed.
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- Dear Mr. Yahya; is the Israeli regime, in your view,
militarily capable of launching an attack against Iran? What would be the
consequences of striking Iran for Israel?
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- We are now living in the End Times, in the age of Hazrat
Mahdi (AS). Our Prophet (PBUH) has told us about all the events that will
take place during this time in great detail. There will be no great war
after this time. The movement of the Dajjal wants bloodshed in the Middle
East, but, by Allah's leave, we will not permit it. There can be no question
of Israel attacking Iran, or Iran attacking Israel. Any attack against
innocent people with no true justification is unlawful according to the
Torah. Every Jew who obeys the rulings of the Torah is also obliged to
abide by Allah's commandment, "Thou shall not murder." No matter
how much certain circles in Israel favor conflict, bloodshed and disorder
and no matter how these circles sometimes prevail, it is obvious that the
great majority of Israel will not accept a physical attack on such a large
and powerful country as Iran.
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- We know what the real aim is of those who want to set
Jews and Muslims against one another, and we have exposed their sinister
tricks. So neither Iran nor Israel will fall for them. It is therefore
essential for Jews and Muslims who genuinely believe in Allah, who love
the Prophets, who believe in the Books He sent down and who know that the
Hereafter exists to form an alliance against irreligion, Darwinism, atheism
and materialism. Atheists and Darwinists easily ally themselves around
their own beliefs and try to crush believers, whatever their faith, with
all their might. It is extraordinary how people who love Allah and want
the moral values commanded by Him to prevail are unable to form an alliance
while the alliance between Darwinists and materialists seeks to drown the
world in blood. When true believers are allied they will obviously totally
neutralize those who want war. It is therefore essential that our devout
Iranian and Israeli brothers should treat one another with affection, love
and understanding and wage a great intellectual struggle against irreligion,
materialism and Darwinism using knowledge, science and culture. When that
happens, nobody will be able to speak of war, assault, fighting or conflict.
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- In the case of an Israeli attack against Iran, what would
be the reaction of the Islamic world? In particular, what is your estimation
of Turkey's possible response in case of an Israeli attack against Iran?
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- I do not believe Israel will choose to do such a thing.
True, devout Jews in Israel will not permit such an attack either. Turkey's
policy has always been to support justice, the rightful and the innocent.
But there is an important phenomenon to be noted here. Dajjal is trying
to set Muslims and Jews, who are actually brothers and who are all descended
from the Prophet Abraham (AS), against one another. It aims for the destruction
of both Jews and Muslims. It is very important to expose the movement of
the Dajjal and neutralize it, insha'Allah.
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- Why doesn't the international community take effective,
practical steps to stop the unlawful actions of Israel such as the collective
punishment of the Palestinian people, building illegal settlements on Palestinian
lands and destroying the Palestinian constructions, mosques, schools and
homes?
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- The only way for the suffering of our Palestinian brothers
to come to an end is for the Islamic world to be united and act as one.
So long as Muslims are not united around a spiritual leader, neither Palestine,
nor Iraq, nor East Turkistan nor Afghanistan can be freed. Sanctions by
international bodies, punishments and the like will change nothing. You
have seen that over the years. Many decisions have been taken against Israeli
actions, and what have they changed? There is terrible oppression going
on under the influence of a handful of atheist Zionists in Israel, not
only of our Palestinian brothers, but of devout Christians and Jews, as
well. There is only one thing for those who want that oppression to end
to do, and that is to mobilize all their resources for the establishment
of Turkish-Islamic Union. When the Islamic world of 1.5 billion people
is united, no harm will befall a hair on the head of a single Muslim anywhere
in the world, insha'Allah. But Turkish-Islamic Union will mean salvation
for all mankind, not just Muslims, because it will be the system in which
the moral values of the Quran are fully applied. It will be a union based
on love, affection, beauty, art, science and democracy, and Jews, Christians,
Buddhists and atheists will all be treated as first-class human beings
under its roof. Everyone will be free to speak his mind and perform his
religious obligations. In the same way that love and justice governed in
the time of our Prophet (PBUH), and in the same way the People of the Book
lived at ease and Muslims enjoyed well-being and security, so it will be
again when Turkish-Islamic Union is established, insha'Allah.
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- Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has recently
called for an international action to bring to an end the lawlessness of
the Zionist regime. What efforts should an international movement include
in order to hold Tel Aviv accountable for the crimes its commits?
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- I have set this out many times before. Telling someone
who has made oppressing others his life's work "have pity on us, and
please stop" will have no effect at all, and may even encourage him
still further. Our Muslim brothers are following a wrong path here. They
say the international community should take action, but would not a comprehensive
solution that does not require action from the international community
be better? Instead of asking Israel not to engage in unlawful actions,
would it not be better to build an environment in which Israel would never
dare do such things? Just imagine, if the Islamic world of 1.5 billion
people were coalesced around a spiritual leader, if they were to act as
a military, cultural and economic giant, would Israel or any other country
dare to adopt such policies? It would never even cross their minds or enter
their heads. They would display huge respect for our Palestinian brothers
and devout Jews and Christians. There would be nothing for the international
community to intervene over. It will be possible to neutralize those who
seek bloodshed, ruthlessness, murder and oppression with the founding of
Turkish-Islamic Union under the spiritual leadership of Hazrat Mahdi (AS).
Of course, Hazrat Mahdi (AS) will neutralize them with love, affection,
culture, art and science. He will save them from their errors. He will
protect them, too. He will lead them to the true path, too, insha'Allah.
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- What roles can Turkey play in order to isolate the Zionist
regime politically, culturally and economically? How can Turkey assume
leadership in an international movement against the illegalities of the
Israeli regime?
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- Isolating Israel and forcing it into solitude is no solution.
It is not compatible with the Quran and the Sunnah either. We are looking
at an unjust practice and mistaken policy on the part of a few Godless,
irreligious, atheist Zionists who do not abide by the Torah. But there
are also many devout Jews and Christians. There are many innocent women,
children and elderly people. It is incompatible with good conscience to
force all these people into isolation and condemn them to conditions in
which they cannot survive. We will be their savior and protector too, insha'Allah.
The People of the Book are entrusted to us by the Prophets Moses (AS) and
Jesus (AS). We will ensure they live in the best manner. We will shelter
them in the finest way, the same way that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) treated
them with justice and affection and that Hazrat Omar (AS) watched over
and protected them. We do not want Israel to be destroyed, wiped off the
map, impoverished or to have its resources limited. We just want an end
to atheist Zionist oppression. That will be possible through an intellectual
struggle against irreligion, atheism, materialism and Darwinism.
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- How do you estimate the growing relations between the
two brother nations of Iran and Turkey? How can these two countries shape
a powerful coalition against the bullying superpowers and their colonies
such as Israel?
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- Iran is Turkey's long-time friend. We love our Iranian
brothers as we do ourselves and will never permit them to face difficulties
or problems. We will protect and watch over them as we do ourselves. For
Iran and Turkey to be allied in love, affection and peace would be to the
benefit of the entire region. For two great and powerful countries to act
together to establish the well-being, peace and security of mankind will
be a huge blow to the movement of the dajjal. A just, compassionate and
loving alliance that excludes none, and supports right instead of might,
will bring great ease and comfort, not just to Islamic countries, but to
all the nations in the region and people of all beliefs. I want to tell
my brothers once again that I love and value my Iranian brothers very highly.
We are in the age of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Hazrat Mahdi (as) is a blessed
individual descended from our Prophet (PBUH) and started work, as the Prophet
(PBUH) says, in the Hijri 1400s. Hazrat Mahdi (as) is at work now. We will
also see the Prophet 'Isa (as) in the next 10 to 20 years, insha'Allah.
I say these things on the basis of the sayings of our Prophet (PBUH). All
the portents of the End Times foretold by our Prophet (PBUH) have come
about. We will soon see other glad tidings, the global dominion of the
moral values of Islam, insha'Allah. It is therefore very important, in
such a climate, to keep to the path shown by our Prophet (PBUH). It is
most important to seek Hazrat Mahdi (as), strive to be his supporter, forerunner
and follower, to wage a cultural struggle against irreligion and Darwinism
in order to support his struggle, to strive to improve love and friendship
among Muslims and to strive to sincerely live by Quranic moral values.
Allah's promise is a true one, and Allah will never break His promise.
By His leave, we will all witness the promise of the global dominion of
Islamic moral values come true in the next 10 to 20 years, insha'Allah.
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