- Here's an interview with an individual named Andy Pero.
I met Pero personally through Preston Nichols, author of several books
about the Montauk Project which Nichols was personally involved in.
- A section of our book "PHOENIX UNDEAD: The Montauk
Project And Camp Hero Today" featured an autobiographical sketch by
Pero, identified by the pseudonym 'Mr. Coffee" in the book.
- Here's more recent information from the survivor of horrendous
mind control programming directly connected to the infamous Montauk Project
operations; activities which also included some of the most advanced experimental
work into relativistic and quantum physics which has ever been done, including
interdimensional and time travel experiments.
- In particular, Pero's comments and insights about what
he was involved in at Montauk, such as with the so-called 'Montauk chair,"
are extremely interesting and provide additional, fresh insight into this
most extraordinary and concept-shattering project and the technology utilized
- PROJECT SUPERMAN
- An exclusive interview with Andy Pero, survivor of a
secret mind control project aimed at creating the super soldier with psionic
- By Eve Frances Lorgen, M.A. http://www.alienlovebite.com/superman2/superman2.htm
- Andy Pero was unwillingly subjected to a mind control
program off-shoot the Monarch Project-a trauma based mind control program
similar to what Cathy O' Brien describes in her autobiography by Mark Philips,
"Tranceformation of America".
- Andy Pero claims to have been created through a combination
of genetic manipulation, trauma based mind control and Silva Mind Control
training resulting in superhuman feats and psionic abilities. In addition
to this, Mr. Pero alleges to have been unwittingly used in covert assassinations
as a Manchurian Candidate and also in missions connected to the Montauk
Project, such as time travel.
- Andy Pero first went public with his story in August
of 1998 as a special guest of Preston Nichols while at a lecture series
hosted by Bob Eure of Philadelphia, PA. I was so astounded with Andy's
testimony, that I interviewed him personally so that his story could be
shared with readers of Unknown Magazine. For those who are unfamiliar with
me, I have worked for ten years investigating and counseling UFO experiencers,
abductees and occasionally survivors of various forms of anomalous trauma,
such as ritual abuse and mind control. Because of my background in alien
abductions, paranormal, the occult and anomalous trauma, I recognized Andy
as an extraordinary survivor of trauma based mind control, one whose story
should not remain hidden.
- EL: Andy, where are you from
originally and when did your training begin?
- AP: I was born in Fallon,
Nevada in November of 1969. My father was a Lieutenant Commander at the
Fallon Naval Air Station in Nevada at the time. I believe my first experiences
began by the time I was two and a half years old. At five years old my
family lived in Munich, Germany and I remember attending two distinct Kindergarten
classes, on in German that was located on or near McGraw Army Troop Army
Base, and another Kindergarten in English.
- I have flashback memories of torture sessions as early
as age two where I was subjected to shock treatments with needles inserted
in my ears and genitalia. What they (the controllers/handlers) do is use
extreme trauma to separate the mind from the body. They do this to split
the mind into several parts that can later be programmed to do things-like
superhuman feats. Basically, they disconnect all of the normal human brain
impulses, emotions and whatever is normally present, then reprogram in
new ones. They do this to remove all fear, so that when they program in
new abilities, you will not have the instinctual, "but I can't, I'm
afraid..." response. They program you to do, not think. In essence,
they treat and program your mind as if it was a computer.
- EL: Who are the people running
these secret programs like the Monarch and Montauk Projects, and where
do they conduct their activities?
- AP: Our own government. One
of my handlers-who tried to brainwash me into believing that he was my
father--was basically a Nazi. I nicknamed him Adolph because he is very
- After WW2 many Nazi scientists were brought over to the
US through our own Intelligence community who formerly worked in mind control
research in the concentration camps. I believe they are a remnant of the
Nazi party working in conjunction with different branches of the US government
and the military.
- Much of my training and torture sessions were done right
at the University of Rochester, NY. They used to take me to a private room
in the attic or top floor of the library. The big lab where I had most
of the programming done to me was at the Rome National Air Base in Rome,
NY. I have also been used in the Montauk chair while at Camp Hero, Montauk,
L.I. and also in a chair in Atlanta, GA at Dobbins Air Force Base.
- The Montauk facility located in Camp Hero, L.I. was reopened
by the Department of the Navy and is active to this day.
- Basically there are underground bases located across
the country. Each one has a different function and specialty. There is
a facility in Rochester, NY, Paramus, NJ, Dobbins Air Force Base in Atlanta,
GA, Camp Hero in Montauk, L.I. and many others. In the Paramus, NJ facility
is where they do the sex programming for many of the female agents. For
the most part, 99% of them are involuntary sex agents and couriers who
were raised in various mind control projects.
- EL: What were some of the
things the mind control programmers made you do?
- AP: I remember my mother
enrolling me in a Silva Mind Control course when I was ten. It is a type
of self-hypnosis where you learn to go to different levels of your mind
to do self-healing, relaxation, visualization, bending spoons with the
power of your mind, things like that. This is also the time when I saw
two peculiar military men, who would periodically visit me throughout my
childhood, especially sporting events. I did exceptionally well at Silva
Mind Control (and sports), so much so that the two military men approached
me and said, "I hear you have some very special abilities. Someday
you will work for us." At the time I didn't understand, but later
the two men figured prominently in all the training I had up all the way
through my college years. Of course I didn't realize this until my memories
came back. I did very well at sports and demonstrated a genius IQ, but
I stuttered so badly until I was in my twenties, that everyone just thought
I was a dumb jock. The stuttering was due to all the electroshock treatments.
- I recall being subjected to electroshock numerous times,
being placed in an enclosed water tank and told to breathe underwater.
Consequently, I drowned several times and would revive because of my self-created
healing pool in my mind. I learned to create my own mental laboratory through
Silva Mind Control, replete with a super powerful healing pool that could
heal any injury. I was forced to endure suffering beyond belief to accomplish
superhuman feats of strength and survival.
- EL: Tell me more about the
various superhuman abilities you discovered you had.
- AP: The trainers would put
me into a trance whereby I'd be told I could jump off a ladder of minimal
height. In my mind, I believed that I was only jumping off a footstool
or a short ledge. In actuality, I was progressively led to jump higher
and higher heights to the point of successfully jumping off buildings and
even out of planes without a parachute.
- When under mind control, I could do whatever I was instructed
to do as long as I believed them. I would do 200 or more push ups in perfect
form, sometimes as long as a half hour straight, or until I was told to
stop. I weight lifted 545 lbs.on a barbell and squats while attending college
and much more (500-1500 lb.) while I was under the mind control in the
training laboratory not far from Rochester, NY.
- In my jumps, it was as if I was falling like a cat, calm
and cool with no fear, focusing like a laser only on the landing.
- EL: Are there others like
yourself who have had similar training and experiences?
- AP: I think there are thousands
of other children and people who are used and many end up missing. Many
die in the process. They are considered expendable. The ones who can survive
the most rigorous programming live on to become what are known as the Montauk
boys. Duncan Cameron is such a person. In general, the boys and young men
are trained to be couriers, assassins and super soldiers and even psychic
killers. The women are mostly used as sex agents. Cathy O' Brien's story
is an example.
- EL: What kinds of special
missions or time travel experiments do you remember taking part in?
- AP: There were times I remember
being at the small Rochester airport, being picked up in an F-16 fighter
plane and ending up in some southwestern desert terrain either for special
military training and obstacle courses or assassination missions. I remember
seeing other men in black t-shirts and pants on the same training course
at one time. Other times I found myself on some aircraft carrier out at
sea. After the mission they would take me back and I would return to college
after a couple of days or even hours not remembering what even happened.
All of these missions were done between the time I was 15 years old and
until 1988-1992 under deep hypnotic programming with the memories erased,
until of some of my memories started to return.
- I was also taught to handle various types of guns, loading,
cleaning, special characteristics of each model and firing at exact targets
repeatedly and perfectly without thinking, just doing.
- EL: Tell me more about your
involvement in the Montauk Project.
- AP: I was involved in an
off shoot of the Montauk Project called the Montauk chair. Basically the
Montauk chair was developed to give the human and spirit a zero point of
reference to facilitate time travel. What the chair essentially does is
separate the mind from the body. The chair operator's thoughts and vibrational
energy is picked up by umbrella looking antennas above the chair, sent
to a computer, over to a processor, then amplified several hundred times.
The information is sent to a network of free energy crystals arranged in
a circle. Then whatever thoughts were amplified, i.e., a time period, a
wormhole would open up in the room. The wormhole was as large as 16-18
feet across and even large enough for a truck to go through.
- In Camp Hero, Montauk, the location is the cross hairs
of the earth's biorhythms and is the point on earth where time travel is
most easily accomplished when earth is the point of origin.
- My part of the Montauk chair project was to use my focused
visualization skills to think of specific time points in history that were
assigned to me. The chair is connected to a sophisticated computer system
and thought amplifier, such that when a thought or time period is visualized,
the computer simulates a time portal based on that point in time. A series
of time portals are done until a library of time periods and portals are
- The chair is also used to amplify extremely focused thoughts
to create three-dimensional materializations based on the operators thoughts.
Preston Nichols wrote several books on the Montauk Project and describes
an incident in which Duncan Cameron created a monster while in the Montauk
- One such time travel mission was called Project Southern
Cross. It was used to win WW2 in favor of the allies. What the US government
did using time travel was to go back in time to the 1940's to help us win
the war. We would deliver communication devices, weapons and technologies
made out of 1940's parts. These would be delivered to the 1940's along
with a complete set of drawings on how to make them out of 1940's parts.
I took part in several of these deliveries, one time I was sent to Germany
and another time to England. I was not allowed to speak to anyone, other
than deliver my parcel and quickly return back to our time. And this was
all done under deep hypnotic programming, so I didn't have a lot of freedom
to explore. I was gone no longer than two hours for the deliveries.
- EL: Have you ever encountered
any extraterrestrials or seen any aliens in any of your underground base
- AP: From what I understand
the Department of the Navy made an agreement with the alien Greys to exchange
technologies for human women and children to conduct horrific breeding
experiments. This is what is going on right now in an underground base
not far from Miami, Florida. One of my most disturbing memories is being
escorted down a hallway in this underground lab and seeing cages of chickenwire
fencing with women and children screaming for help. I have seen Grey aliens
(the 4-foot tall ones with large black eyes) and also 7-foot tall reptilian
beings in some of my experiences. I have been told that I have many children
from alien breeding experiments. I have had abductions with the Greys also.
- On one occasion I was introduced to a Reptilian being
while in an underground base sometime in 1989-90. At first I saw a 7-foot
tall human Ayran looking man. He walks towards me and I notice that his
image phases out as if something interfered with an energy field. He does
something to a device on his belt and tells me, "OK, I'll show you."
He then pushes some button and then I see his image change into a 7-foot
tall lizard like creature who looked like he weighed over 400 lb.
- I was introduced to a group of beings that claimed to
be a sub group of the Illuminati. They were made up of a group of about
40-50 men, all 6' 2" or taller, white, and of an indeterminate older
age, averaging 70, but I suspect much older considering the technology
they have access to. They convened in a boardroom that I believe was in
an underground base, perhaps Camp Hero, Montauk. They sat around a large
football shaped table made of wood. Each high backed chair had a light
at the tip and each sitting had a TV type of screen and control panel that
came out >from the table. There was a huge screen located in the front
of the room as well. I have reason to believe that not all of the Illuminati
are human, but in actuality are alien beings that appear to look human.
- EL: Who or what groups do
you think are running the show here in the US or even on Earth? How do
the aliens fit into all of this?
- AP: It is very complicated,
but basically there are four main versions or groups of the New World Order,
all with slightly varying agendas. The first group comprises the US and
Western Europe (i.e., England, Germany, France and the US). The second
group is Eastern Europe fused with Western Europe and the US. The third
group is the countries of the Orient, and the fourth is the Middle Eastern-Saudia
Arabian elements and all the oil money. There are also off world groups
(aliens and future human Nazi's types called Zardanians, Reptilians, Greys
and Dracos) who also have a hand in the NWO plans. For the time being,
the old money groups of Europe and England have teamed up with die hard
Nazi factions, Jews and Americans forming the group that has been always
been known as the Illuminati and affiliated secret societies. This large
international group controls the media, police force, military, etc. The
Illuminati is also part of the NWO plan, which includes members such as
George Bush, Prince Charles and other high ranking people.
- As for the aliens, I think most of the alien Greys are
either under the authority of or in collaboration with the Reptilians,
Dracos and the Illuminati, based on some of my experiences and memories
that are still returning to me. Some Grey groups are in conflict with the
Reptilian/Draco agenda and are doing their own thing (human/grey hybridization
programs) so to speak. Their agenda gets into heavy spiritual matters having
to do with acquiring an emotional body and an ability to ascend to higher
dimensions. They are using humans to accomplish this via the human/alien
hybrids. Humans have the key in terms of having a threefold essence or
unity of being, physical, emotional and spiritual. Other aliens have lost
this unity of being (because of the fall from grace), thus inhibiting them
from ascending to higher dimensions, or evolving to higher levels. This
gets back to the original Luciferic rebellion, fallen angels and the various
conflicts between species.
- EL: When did you start remembering
your memories? How did or can you break the programming they install?
- AP: Some of my first memories
surfaced while I was living with a roommate in Atlanta, GA back in 1996.
We went to the bowling alley and I saw a large sign in the shape of a man
dressed like a Rhino advertising, "Bowl with Rhino balls." This
triggered me into remembering that "Rhino" is the name my Nazi
handlers called me. My roommate overheard me say outloud, "I'm Rhino-they
called me Rhino." He got excited and immediately asked me, "Where
did you hear that?" He had a grave look of concern on his face and
kept questioning me. By his reaction, I realized later that all along he
was one of my hired programmers and handlers. The initial triggered memory
that surfaced was a flashback of me being electrocuted and shocked and
screaming in pain in one of my numerous torture sessions.
- Then after that first memory, other memories started
leaking through. It was like my mind was dammed up and the subconscious
memories were starting to leak through. My mind controller programmers
deliberately built a wall around my memories so that I wouldn't remember.
When I started recalling bits and pieces, I'd write notes to myself and
hide them. Then I'd find my notes, after I had forgotten everything because
my roommate was catching on that I was remembering. So he would repeatedly
put me in trances, erase my memories and I'd forget what I had just remembered.
But then everything came crashing down, because I deliberately hid notes
and pretended that I didn't know to my roommate. I had thought he was a
friend and it turned out he was just hired to be another controller and
handler to keep me in the program.
- I recall that in the past I did not even remember my
dreams for ten years. But now things are coming back. I am working on purifying
the body to help clear my mind and get my abilities back.
- EL: How do they keep control
overall these people who have been and are still in mind control projects?
- AP: The essence of their
control tactics is of splitting the mind at a young age. This entails a
process of trauma, torture, degradation and humiliation of the subject.
The process is different for each individual, but in essence they go to
your subconscious mind and find out what the most personal parts of you
are. Then they essentially use this against you to break you down and rip
your mind apart. What happens is this: An individual who possesses special
mental abilities is selected at a very young age. (Very often they are
from military families or from multigenerational Satanic ritual abuse families-EL)
Then they are subjected to various stages of terror and horror to begin
to separate them from their own minds. It is a process of progressive dissociation
and compartmentalization of the mind and personality.
- They control your mind through various complicated hypnosis
techniques and commands until they create the perfect Manchurian Candidate.(See
The Greenbaum Speech by D.C. Hammond) They program you to do something,
then erase the memory. Basically they program your mind as if it were a
computer. Once they install the magic word, all they have to do is say
it and you're under their control. This happens from an early age so it
is easier to control them if they are conditioned and dissociated into
- Another method of control is that they send in special
people in your lives, handlers and controllers who pose as friends, teachers,
"deprogrammers", roommates, lovers, etc. who are actually operatives
for the mind control projects. Some are sleeper operatives who don't even
know they are being used to a certain extent. It makes it hard to trust
anyone at this point.
- EL: Is there anything else
you can say about these projects or advice to others who have gone through
similar experiences, like how they can be set free from its influence?
- AP: For those who want to
get out of the influence of the programs of mind control, you must have
a strong fighting instinct to do what is right regardless of what others
are doing. Your only cage is the one you build for yourself. You must connect
with your highest self to break the evil that is all around us, and not
succumb to doing evil just because everyone else is doing it. Retain your
fundamental sense of right and wrong.
- It all goes back to the basic conflict basic good and
evil. It is like the dark forces in power of the planet at this time are
trying to cheat their way into heaven or higher dimensions.
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