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Note - Kenny Young was Jeff's guest Thursday, 6-4-98, during which time he played the amazing 911 police dispatch tape recordings of the December 14, 1994 Trumbull County UFO incident. To hear the show via RealAudio, click on Archives on our homepage and select the June 4 program. Scroll fast forward to the 01:29 point to hear the beginning of Kenny's appearance.
We salute Kenny for his outstanding and lengthy investigation of this major encounter, and for his successful quest to secure these most important audio recordings of the Trumbull County Dispatch center and police officers involved in the obersvation and pursuit of the UFO.
The following transcript of the dispatch tapes is courtesy of Kenny Young <task@FUSE.NET. ______________
This is a summation of the 9-1-1 Dispatch tapes regarding the December
14, 1994 Trumbull County UFO incident. It is not a word-for-word
transcript. At times, more specific quotes will appear when deemed
important. Special comments will appear in [brackets].
Many persons are part of this drama. Their names are not all known.
Police radio correspondence indicates a UNIT NUMBER to designate a
particular officer on duty. During later portions of the tape when
a more frantic climate arises, it is impossible to determine who is
talking. Unit numbers are not always known, as will be indicated.
A prominent person is Central Dispatch for Liberty Township,
Ms. Royanne Rudolph. The time is around or after midnight.
A UFO report has already been received at the Liberty
Township dispatch office, this is not reflected on the
present tape (because tapes changed at midnight), but is
referenced. Evidently, the first caller was a female, and
hysterically reporting a low-level object near her home.
Begin summation:
County Dispatch (CD): 9-1-1, may I help you?
Male caller #1: What do you know of a strange object in the
sky? It is strange, like the back end of a fighter plane with flames
coming out the back. The object was descending at an angle.
CD then reports to Unit # 996, advising him of vehicle in
the sky near Samson Drive.
#996 & #998 ask for description of object.
CD to Bob [perhaps a supervisor]: 4-calls were received regarding a
UFO over Liberty. This conversation is very lively, CD plays back
tape of previous call to Bob. CD laughs, Bob laughs. Bob then
advises CD to call the airbase. CD says this will 'start a frickin'
panic.' Bob says 'Mr. Spock' is in town, laughs about being abducted.
CD again asserts that there were 4 or 5 UFO calls.
#993 advisess he will be in the area of Samson Drive. He
requests a specific locality where he should go.
CD advises #993 of 4 different calls regarding UFO in the
sky. At this point, the time is now 12:30 a.m. as the
dispatcher announces.
A phone call is received by CD from a news reporter from
Channel 33 in Youngstown. Her name is Stacey. Channel 33 has
received an additional call of a UFO at Samson Drive from a
female caller to the newsroom.
CD to Ch.33: "Why are they in Liberty? There's no intelligent life
here!" She laughingly adds that a Star Trek sequel is being filmed in
Liberty. Ch. 33 tells CD that caller described a bluish-green object
with no noise, flying low. The big, glowing object, which came down
and 'zooped over' was now flying up the Fifth Avenue Extension. CD
tells Ch. 33 to do a story on the water in Liberty, because it is
making people crazy. CD laughs, and adds that 'jokers are on the force
tonight' CD tells Ch.33 that they will be given the exclusive about
the UFO, laughingly.
A female caller phones in to ask for Liberty Police,
reporting a strange airplane or something in the air on
Samson Drive. The caller says it might be a flying saucer,
and it is not an airplane. She says it is down 'awfully
low.' This person was asked if she was the same person
who called Ch.33, and she said: "No." She described the
object as iridescent in color, bluish purple like a long
streak with fire coming out the back of it.
Unit #993 to CD, explains that a civilian stopped him, saying the
object appeared to be hovering about 50-feet off the ground. The
civilian said it was a large object with many lights on it, and it
was heading toward the area of Sodom and Hutchins Road. The officer
advised that he would check the area.
CD to #993
Advises that another report near Samson Drive and call from media
referencing the blue-green object at Fifth Avenue Extension.
Unit #998: See's some lights about one block over, large object.
CD requests #996 backup, then #925.
#996 copies, enroute.
Unit #998 catches glimpse of UFO while driving on Samson Road.
The object is heading to Fifth Avenue. Lights seen in area.
Officer comments: "Should I set my phaser for stun?"
Unit #996 is now on Fifth Avenue Extension. Advises that the
object is "like a red, pulsating light."
CD to units: Object should be blue and green.
#996: "What I saw was red like a pulsating light, like to the bottom
of an airplane, but it was real big."
CD announces: "We will now contact the airbase at this time, stand by.
#996: "Maybe its a flying Christmas tree."
CD: "Any green men?"
CD advises that no more calls had been received.
CD places a phone call to AF Base, no answer. CD then calls
FAA control tower at Youngstown/Warren Municipal Airport
(856-4541). CD advises FAA operator of UFO at Samson Drive
and Fifth Avenue Extension, adds that the object is 'in our
jurisdiction,' and that call is not a prank.
FAA: "I am looking at the radarscope, 60-mile diameter of Youngstown
and there is 'nothing' out there.
CD: "Oh shit."
FAA: "Not even anything up high, no airplanes."
CD advises of 5 calls, asks if FAA would be able to monitor a Cessna
airplane w/headlight on radar.
FAA replies: "Depends on how high & low. If low, radar coverage isn't
any good."
CD explains that she doesn't want to tell units that FAA has no track
of UFO on radar. She asks if FAA has a 'clause' used to dismiss
FAA: "Could be, could be. Maybe it was a helicopter or something like
that, flying low. Are you close to a hospital?"
CD: "As low as they said it was from the ground, it would be
approximately 5-miles from the hospital." CD indicates that the area in
question is closer to the Vienna Township line, near the Vienna Airbase
FAA: "We haven't had anything going on. About a half-hour ago a [took off]
out here northbound and climbed up high, but there's nothing now in that
CD: I'm advising you of this, file it in the "G-for garbage" can if
you want to.
CD puts FAA on hold, comes back to say 4 to 6 calls have now come in
regarding a UFO above Samson Drive and Fifth Avenue. The object is
low to the ground with no noise, and hovered for some time prior to
departure down Fifth Avenue Extension. Advises that a unit also
observed a red object.
FAA: "I can refer you to an 800-number for UFO reports during
business hours."
CD: "No."
FAA: "I don't see anything out there, nothing on radarscope and we
don't really do anything with the information."
CD: "Well, I thought I'd pass it on to you in case just so I'd do my
More Central Dispatch-to-Unit correspondence at this point
Unit #998: In clear now, doesn't see object anymore, but has no idea
what he saw. Says: "Might have been a light in the sky."
Unit #925: Surrounding jurisdictions advised to stop and interrogate
"if they come across that."
Female caller to CD, asking about UFO. CD says dispatcher
presently on phone with airbase at this time. Liberty thinks
it is from the airbase.
CD to Units: We've contacted FAA, they have nothing nor communication
with private vehicles or helicopters.
Unit #998: Then they're not aware of anything?
CD: Negative. They have nothing nor communication with private
vehicles or helicopters.
Unit #998: OK.
CD: We are continually getting calls on this also. The last call was
two minutes ago.
Unit #998: What's the area?
CD: Still Samson & Fifth.
UNKNOWN UNIT #1: We're right there, there's nothing there now.
UNKNOWN UNIT #2: [jokingly] It's only visible to certain people.
Unit #998 to CD: If you get any more calls, I'd like an address. I'd
like to speak to people making the calls.
CD: Copy.
Unit #998: I will be out of service a couple of minutes, I have to
gather my thoughts.
CD: Copy gathering, 12:58 [time marker].
Unit #998: I'm ok now, I'm back in service.
CD: Back in service, 12:59 [time marker]
This segment is a phone discussion between CD and Unit #998
about the object. Unit #998 shaken, describes big red glow
'bright as daylight on the ground.' Explains encounter with
civilian on the road. Describes red object, noiseless, at
treetop level.
Unit #429 advises CD that UFO is east of her location. She leaves post
to go look. #429 says that he has been watching the object for 10
minutes with binoculars, and the object has not moved. Unit #429 says
that there was a UFO sighting two weeks earlier, as well.
UNKNOWN UNIT A: We have a pretty good view out here near Kings Grave.
UNKNOWN UNIT B: Looks like I'm getting pretty close here.
UNIT #429: That bugger has not moved.
UNKNOWN UNIT B: I'm going over to Leven [Road?] right now and starting
to maybe get next to it here...
UNIT #429: It's just above the trees, yeah!
UNKNOWN UNIT: The airbase should know what this is.
UNIT #429: Mikey's up here now, he's looking through the binocs, it
looks like it might've moved. It moved from one side of the tree to
UNKNOWN FEMALE VOICE: It's over around Leven.
UNKNOWN UNIT: Ridge already, Ridge at the airbase.
UNKNOWN UNIT: It's doing circles.
Two units attempt to triangulate the position of the UFO from
two different locations. #429 announces that he is 1/2 mile
south of Kings Grave on Henheid, and the object is south of
his location. CD Royanne returns, out of breathe, said she
did not see object. Unit #429 announces that he is still on
Henheid north of Caine [sp?], and near a house that is under
construction. They are watching it over an empty field. The
color of the UFO changes from whitish red to pulsating
greenish lavender. #429 complains about a cheap set of
CD: I'm calling the air base again.
Unit #429 announces that he is coming to the dispatch office to
pick up dispatcher Royanne to take her to see the object. She
states that she will be taking a break to see it. Before taking
the break, she places another call to the FAA tower.
CD to FAA [frantic]: The darn thing is in Howland Township now, hovering
over Henheid, about five minutes from the center. Do you show anything
on your radar screen over the Warren area? They're seeing it, 50-feet
from the ground with a red holding light. There are blue and green
lights, no noise. We've had this all night.
FAA: I'm looking to the west, and I don't see anything. I'm 70-feet in
the air.
CD then gives the phone number of the Liberty Twp. dispatch
office to the FAA operator to contact, and advises him that
she is now going to go see the object.
Telephone conversation, 2 officers, one of them a controller
at an unspecified department in Trumbull County
Person #1: The FAA didn't see it
Person #2: That is a joke, that is a joke.
Person #1: We got 8 calls about it.
Person #2: Liberty was telling us about it.
Person #1: We got calls on it last night, too.
Person #2: How's a UFO going to be detected on radar if it's Stealth?
Person #1: We got 8-calls earlier.
Person #2: It's hard to say. In winter months, you see alot more
shooting stars because the sky is clear.
Person #1: With the cold, they drag on.
Person #2: I saw one good one tonight that was bright. Pete was joking
about that.
Person #1: Beam me up, scotty [laughs]
Person #2: That's probably what they're seeing.
Person #1: We'll make a note of it.
A gentleman at 'the jail' calls the dispatch office on the
telephone to ask about the UFO situation. The controller
explains that the UFO is presently being seen, and says that
UFO reports were also received the previous evening. The
controller explains that a Howland police officer is also
a witness to the present UFO as well.
A new, unidentified controller is now speaking with Unit
Controller: Did the UFO move?
Unit #433: Negative, but I'm out at the air base here, standing here
watching it. It looks like he's just sitting here.
A male respondant advises Unit #433 that a subject is enroute
[Special note: The sequence which is to follow contains the POLICE
PURSUIT of the UFO, and the rapid-fire action and radio traffic
cannot be easily charted. Dialogue will be listed below, frequently
without attribution, as it is not known what 'Unit' is speaking.]
Unknown Unit: I've got a visual on it! I'm east on Old [Rt.] 82 with
a visual on it by the 'S' curve! I can see a large red, blue and
green light. I am going east on Liberty. This thing's going so fast,
there's no way I can keep up with it. When I pulled in Liberty I could
see it in the distance, but I got closer and it started moving.
Unknown voice: Which Liberty?
Unknown Unit: Liberty off of Belmont. I don't see it now, I'm on
Logan now.
Voice: OK, 429, its south of Old 82, I'm moving east on it!
Unit #429: I'm still stationary at the airbase. Its pulsating.
Voice: Affirmative, I'm looking at it through binoculars. Its got
something protruding out the top of it.
Voice: I'm on Belmont now.
Voice: It's over [Railroad?] tracks now...
Voice: It's hovering now!
Voice: I see it now, too!
Voice: It looks like its flickering more now and its east of me now!
I'm heading east on Old 82...
Voice: I've got a pretty good view from here!
Voice: I'm dead east on it, it's slightly north of us!
Two other officers corresond separately
Officer A: I heard that Liberty had some traffic regard to that, too...
Officer B: Voice: We know they definetely saw something, because we're
seeing it.
Voice: It's extremely bright, really bright.
Voice: It's all the way into Liberty now, into Hubbard now...
Unit #998 to RADIO: Is Howland reporting sightings?
RADIO: That is affirmative.
Voice: Hey Walter, chase it back north, I want to see this thing.
WALTER: From Howland and how far it's visible you should be able to
see it...
Voice: I'm going to head out to [Route?] 305 and get a glimpse of it
from there.
UNIT #2223: I've got a visual on both of them, I'm sure you know
what I'm talking about.
CONTROL: 10-4. We have multiple departments right now that has
sightings on it.
UNIT #2223: OK, I've got them both. I've got Howland saying it looks
like its in the area of Warren Road, Liberty says its down near
CONTROL: If you see anything close and can identify it, let us know.
UNIT #2223: Affirmative.
OFFICER X: I'm past 84-Lumber [hardware store] still eastbound, its
southeast of my location.
UNKNOWN UNIT: It doesn't seem like it moved at all from where I'm at.
VOICE: OK, are you by yourself, or is there someone documenting the
observation also?
UNKNOWN UNIT: I'm at the airbase, I've got the security guard out here,
he doesn't know what to make of it, either. We can see it from right
VOICE #2: Did you ask Liberty Dispatch the outcome of the FAA
UNIT #433: Last check, radar at the airport was advising nothing on
their screens. They wouldn't tell us anyway if its anything to do
with the military. We've had another 'Hangar 7' happen in Trumbull
UNKNOWN FEMALE CONTROLLER: It's in Brookfield, now.
UNIT #998: We can see it from Route 62, a large light with red in it!
UNIT #223: I'm going to go up in the tower!
UNIT #443: Did you hear from Liberty or Youngstown?
Male Controller: Everyone in the county has a visual on it that I can
2nd Voice: Right now, control is copying that it is somewhere in
Brookfield Township, east of 84-Lumber on Warren/Sharon Road. We've
got a unit at the old county home on Route 7 with a visual at this
time. Looks like its going southeast.
Officer C: I'm almost to Brookfield, I just pulled off and have it
under binocular observation, and there is definitely a structure
there, 429. What you saw... I can see an upper structure off the
main part of the lighting.
UNIT #429: Yeah, it almost looks like a little parachute hanging from
Officer C: Yeah, something with a different colored lighting to it.
UNIT #429: Hey, 443, have you been looking at this through binoculars?
UNIT #443: I've been trying to run as far east to get as close and
get a clear visual through my old binoculars and stopped at Brookfield
Center, got a halfway decent look at it, the object you described on
top of it.
UNIT 2223: What unit is that?
Voice: UFO's near Courtland!
2nd Voice: Is anybody close to that thing?
Male voice: Last seen it was southeast from 84-Lumber, in that area.
Voice: If you come up on [Rt] 46, you should be able to see it without
any problems. I could pick it up on North Hill Road.
3rd Voice: I'm at [Rt] 305 & sitting on the overpass and I don't see
OFFICER: I'm at Fowler & Ridge, how high up are we talking here, above
the horizon?
Voice: Not very far. If you're in the treeline it'll block your view.
2nd Voice: Will I be able to see it if I go south on [Rt] 11?
OFFICER: Yeah, you should, just look out toward Kings Grave, toward
the airbase.
Voice: Allright, I'll take a shot down [Rt] 11.
UNIT 2223: I'm clear from the homes, I'm going to go closer to it.
CONTROL: What was your last location you saw it, where is it at now?
UNIT 2223: It looks like its right around 84 Lumber. I will head down
[Rt] 82 and will advise.
CONTROL: 10-4, give me a registration when you can.
UNIT #998: I don't know what this is... it's a large light in the sky,
changing colors. We tried to signal it... [tape break, then resumes]
It's in Brookfield now, pretty far from us.
Unidentified voice: We got this white light over the top of the airbase.
OFFICER: Yeah, that's probably it.
Unidentified voice: The light isn't pulsating or anything, it looks
like a star or something up there.
OFFICER: How far are you from the airbase?
Unidentified voice: I'm near the airbase on [Rt] 11, but it's
southeast of there, looks to be rather high, though, not just over
the treeline.
OFFICER: It's not much farther.
Voice: Have you heard from Wally or did he get beamed up?
Controller repeatedly attempts to contact Howland Unit #433
for status and receives no answer. Finally, #433 comes on
and announces that he can't "get down in and was coming
Unknown Officer: I went down to [Rt] 82 to cross over North 82 on
[Rt] 11, and the only thing I see is a white star out there, looks
like either Jupiter or Sirius... nothing moving, nothing pulsating.
You might try getting a little more rest during the day...
Officer then makes a joke about his decade of third shift
duty and of shift rotation.
Unknown Officer:Unless I'm looking at the wrong thing, Walt, I
didn't see anything but a white light southeast of the airport.
Voice: Keep trying, Walt. You'll find something.
TAPE BREAK: This next segment is a cellular telephone
discussion recorded on the 9-1-1 channel because of the
open phone line to the dispatch office. The conversation
is between Controller Hutch and Officer Baker
BAKER: [jokes] I talked to these guys, everythings allright, they're
going to go back to where they came from.
HUTCH: Did you see anything?
BAKER: I can see them. I've got them right here. I'm looking at it.
HUTCH: What the hell is it?
BAKER: I can see it from Warren Road.
to be continued...
Delving further into the mysterious affairs surrounding the 1994 Trumbull County Disturbance, I contacted a Ms. Stacey Adger, a news reporter with WYTV Channel 33 in Youngstown, Ohio.
Adger is the reporter whose voice is heard on the 9-1-1 tapes, inquiring with the Trumbull County dispatch headquarters of the UFO situation.
I first spoke with Stacey Adger on June 8, 1998, and asked her why this story was never reported, and how such an incredible event could have been kept so quiet for so long.
She said that she was off of work in the two days following the incident, and nobody else ever 'reported' on the situation. She said that while she was off, she "did some checking" into the story, but nobody would tell her anything. She added that she was fully aware of the numerous UFO reports and the police pursuit of an unknown object.
I asked Stacey about the FAA involvement with the report, and where the FAA tower was in relation to the airbase. She said the airbase and airport are both in Vienna, Ohio, adjacent to one another. This is the same area where the UFO was sighted. Adger said that if the security guard was visually observing the UFO from his vantage point at the airport, there is "no way" the FAA tower could NOT observe the UFO, especially from a 70-foot elevation and using binoculars.
She was aware that a Howland police officer was standing alongside a security officer at the airbase and both were observing the UFO. Neither could identify the object.
Stacey said that she called the airport herself that night, and talked with the same FAA tower operator who was on the tape. This man told her that 'people were pulling pranks' and there was nothing on radar.
She recalled the first woman who phoned in, and said that the woman was extremely scared. The woman described the UFO as a bluish-green object that was real close to the ground, and had lights associated with it.
I told Stacey that I had been advised by the 9-1-1 telecommunicator (who furnished me the tape) that she was also going to be sent a copy, and we would be the only two recipients, aside from several police officers who wanted a copy for their own curiousity. I asked her if she had received her copy, and she said that she did. She said she has listened to it 5 or 6 times now, and each time was thunderstruck by what she heard.
I asked if she conveyed information of this to others, and she said that she has not. She announced that she was the only person in the news media who had the tape.
She has not told anyone about it, because she "wanted to check with certain persons involved," whose careers may be in jeopardy, she was inclined to suspect. Evidently, she was given to believe that the tapes were removed from the regular storage area and were hidden in another part of the 9-1-1 center. Adger felt that the tapes may have been hidden purposefully.
Yours truly was also told by one of the telecommunicators that the tapes were mysteriously 'misplaced' in another location, or lost altogether. The telecommunicator expressed to me that when he noticed the tapes missing, he was 'spooked.' He did not, however, interpret this as a conspiratorial act, because he said there was a 'backup' tape located elsewhere that he was able to retrieve. The exact circumstances surrounding this situation is still unclear, but there was a definite problem which surfaced when the tapes were initially sought for retrieval. [I hope to clarify these details in a later report.]
Adger thought that any reportage of this incident may have grand ramifications. She also was aware of the re-assignment of the air traffic controllers at the Youngstown FAA after the UFO incident.
During my June 8 discussion with Stacey Adger, she said that her managing editors are not aware of this situation, and she didn't have any plan on when or how to tell them. She feared that the News Director may "hop all over" the story with a motivation not to focus on the UFO incident, but to wrongfully characterize the 9-1-1 center in a false light.
I spoke with Stacey Adger again on June 12, and still she gave no indication that this story is being pursued, or that she has given the information to the News Director. She did say that her initial estimation that the tapes were deliberately concealed by the management of the 9-1-1 center were 'probably incorrect.'
In my reflections of this entire situation, the news staff of WYTV Channel 33 in Youngstown, Ohio is largely to blame for this story being concealed from the public so. Certain persons on the news staff have been in full possession, from the beginning, of this remarkable account. No efforts were made to report on this event. Even after acquisition of these incredible tapes, this valuable data has not been addressed, and there is no indication that it will yet be pursued.
Following my June 8 phone call, I assumed that reportage of this incident would shortly commence. This has not been the case, and I am under the impression that the staff of Channel 33 longs for this matter to be swiftly swept aside and forgotten.
During my June 12 conversation, Adger even acknowledged that her initial fears were unfounded, and the understandable concerns for the job safety of others were largely exaggerated. Despite no expressed interest in addressing this incident with the Channel 33 news forum, Adger agreed with me that the tapes are shocking and are of extreme news-interest.
June 12, 1998 KENNY YOUNG -- UFO Research

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