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More Proof Hitler Lived Out His Days In Argentina - A Letter And Audio
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In mid-August 2019, Lt. Col. Julio Arturo Heil died.
In mid-August 2019, Lt. Col. Julio Arturo Heil died.
This was the story about the secret mission that in 1953 the then president Juan Domingo Perón entrusted to a young lieutenant in the Army: take a briefcase to a residence in Bariloche and hand it over to Adolf Hitler .
Hitler live in Argentina in 1953? It seemed a delirium, contrary to the official story that claims that the Nazi leader committed suicide in his bunker in 1945.
And as it was necessary to respect a family secret, we could not tell the name of that lieutenant.
Now, the facts have rushed.
On August 17, 2019, at 92, Lieutenant Colonel Julio Arturo Heil died, who 66 years earlier was part of an incredible story .
-It was my father's will to make it known once he had died.
Alejandro Heil , one of his sons, tells me that he begins a story so far unpublished:
-I became aware of this story near the year 2010, when my mother tells me that Dad had told him that he had a very personal story, very intimate, that I had to tell him. He tells him because he was very sick, admitted to the Military Hospital for a heart condition and when he is discharged he returns home and talks to his mother. He tells him that he had a story he kept secret because he had given his word as a soldier that he was going to preserve it, but since all the protagonists were dead and it was a historical fact and he realized that he was close to his own death, I should tell him by the magnitude and importance of what happened ... He was then 84 years old.
-And what did your mom do?
- He said "Coco this you have to tell it, you have to write it, you have to leave it seated somewhere so that tomorrow it will be known, because it is a very important fact. And my father wrote these veneers, which I just find a few days ago, among his papers.
-What did he tell you?
-In 1953, being an official instructor with the rank of lieutenant in the Military College, he is called by the head of the company and tells him to appear in the director's office, General Maglio , who wanted to speak with him. My father introduces himself and next to the director was General Franklin Lucero , who at that time was the Minister of War. And there they tell him that General Perón wanted to talk to him, to prepare himself because the next day they would pick him up at seven in the morning. The next morning he goes to look for a small black Mercedes Mecedes, of those used at the time, and takes him to the Casa Rosada. There he receives a major noncommissioned officer, who accompanies him to General Lucero's office and from there they go to President Perón's office.
-There were many emotions in a row and in a few hours for a young 25-year-old officer. First the director of the Military College calls him, there he meets the Minister of War and then the President of the Nation himself ... And what did Perón say?
He asked if he was a descendant of Germans. My father says yes and Perón tells him that he will fulfill a highly reserved commission.
- Is it true that he asked if he spoke German?
-Yes, it was. My father replied that he did not speak it fluently, that he only had basic knowledge. Exactly, Perón told him how with that last name he did not speak the German language well, but that he was going to fulfill the secret commission that they were going to entrust him. "The precise instructions will be given by General Lucero," he said. That's how it went. They left the presidential office and went to the minister, who gave him a portfolio with a bracelet chain. And while my father put it on his wrist, Lucero gave him the instructions: "Now the driver who brought it here is going to take it to the air base of El Palomar, from where they are going to fly to Bariloche . This portfolio is going to to hand over Mr. Adolf Hitler ... "
Here we freeze the image.
We stay with this young officer who is mentioned the name of the Nazi dictator in the present tense, as if the whole account of his death did not exist.
We return to him and his surprise at the command of Lucero.
But before we fleetingly review what was happening in the world in that 1953.
General Dwight Eisenhower assumed the presidency of the United States, after having been the commander of the Allied forces in World War II. He was the man who decided not to enter Berlin, allowing the Russians to do so. In turn, in the Soviet Union, Stalin died and after the internship of Malenkov , Nikita Kruschev became the strong man. The so-called Cold War between the West and the USSR had replaced the previous warlike conflict between the Allies and Nazi Germany.
Let's press play again.
-How did your dad react?
- He told me that it was something surprising, that caught his attention. But he told me that he was so involved in complying with this directive that he did not think about eating or drinking water. He told me: "Alejandro, I was a 25-year-old young lieutenant, what I most wanted was to finish the commission as quickly as possible and return to the officers casino."
- And when he left the office of Minister Lucero what happened?
-In the story he left written, my dad says that from the Casa Rosada the same driver of the black Mercedez Benz took him to the air base of El Palomar. There a captain and a first lieutenant pilots were waiting for him, in charge of a twin-engine. The only passenger was he, who had the briefcase chained to the wrist . During the trip they did not speak. They made a stop in Santa Rosa, to resupply and took off again bound for Bariloche, the old airport supposedly. There an army officer was waiting for him, a first lieutenant. My father doesn't know the last name. In an army jeep they travel for approximately 45 minutes on a gravel road that at first had a view of a lake and then they get into a wooded area to a gate where two people with German accent receive them , who accompany him only to the interior of a chalet among the dense forests of Bariloche.
- Do they enter directly?
-They enter the house and the two people he describes as corpulent, tall, dressed in civilian clothes, with a German accent take him to the main entrance of the chalet and there is another person who accompanies him along a corridor to a room where the Lord who was supposedly Adolph Hitler . My father says it was a spacious, large room, with a window that overlooked a grove or a park. And the person who was supposedly Hitler was at a desk. When my father is admitted, he stands up, receives him and greets him. My father says it was an affectionate greeting. They were both alone. He asks about General Perón in a difficult Castilian , it cost him but he spoke in Spanish. My father unhooks the doll's portfolio and hands it to him. They exchange two or three words, they don't speak much and from a ledge behind them he takes out a bottle of cognac with two glasses. It serves my father, he serves and toast to Argentina and Perón.
- He supposed that the person he had seen was Hitler, but he couldn't tell if it was a double. At 25 he could not say it. We assume so. For the trip, the place. And he also complied with the directives that President Perón and Minister Lucero had given him.
Alejandro Heil adds an unexpected fact:
-In the letter, in the written account that my father wrote in 2011 at my mother's request, he states that Hitler gave him an envelope to hand General Perón. But when he made the recording, a few months ago, he spoke by heart. I did not read a text. Perhaps with 92 years, with the passage of time, I have forgotten some details, because that data did not include it ...
-And how did that interview in Bariloche end?
-They say goodbye, shake hands, my father describes the person he sees similar to what was seen in the newspapers that seemed to be Adolph Hitler, an older Hitler, more deteriorated, gray-haired, with a mustache, with tremors in both hands, with a rudimentary Spanish ... My father greets him militarily, because he had gone in uniform and retires. He does the reverse road, again the jeep, the plane from Bariloche, again El Palomar, the black Mercedes Benz was waiting for him and took him to the Casa Rosada. Again in General Perón's office, this time after waiting a while because the President was attending to other people. My father gives him the news that he had fulfilled the commission, that the briefcase had been delivered and handed him what Hitler had given him. Perón congratulated him and told him that his career and his permanence in the army are at stake in his reserve . "Give me your word of honor and soldier that this is not going to comment and will take it quietly," he asked. And so my father did it, because only when all the protagonists died did he reveal it in an intimate way. And he himself was already very sick.
When Lt. Col. Julio Arturo Heil was about to die, in 2010, he revealed to his wife that secret of the interview with the alleged Hitler, following an order from President Perón. At her request - her name was Nelly - she wrote the story in six pages that are a document of enormous historical value and that we reproduce today. But there is something else:
-When my dad told him about his interview with Hitler, my mom believed him because he was always a man of honor, unable to invent stories. At that moment, she entrusted it to us.
-And at that moment what did you say to your dad?
-I didn't talk about it with him at any time! My brother and I knew, because my mother had told us, but we never touched the subject with him. We knew he had written it, but that was with his stuff. When he wrote his letter we did not read it. Only three months before his death, in June of this year, with my brother César, who lives in Córdoba, we decided to talk about this with my dad. We always respect my dad and his will that this was not known until after his death. With that condition, he agreed to record an audio.
The recording, which we access exclusively, is long and detailed. What follows is the transcription of one of its main sections:
"It makes me go. Hitler was sitting behind his desk . He stands up, greets him, greets me. He asks me about General Perón. Hitler's pronunciation was quite difficult to understand. You can hardly speak Spanish. I give him the Secret documentation, we change two, three words. He asks me how the general is. After he turns around, he takes out a bottle of cognac that he had on a shelf, two glasses and we toasted Argentina and President Perón. He tells me to transmit your greetings, I say the same thing, I'm going to say hello to Mr. General. We shake hands, I leave. The same officer with the jeep was waiting for me, I go up. We return to the Bariloche airpark that was land, sand. I get on the plane that the officers were waiting for me too ... You see that everything was already fixed. And in the absolute silence we returned to Palomar base.
-And the letter?
-I just read it for the first time this morning. I went to his house and found it among his papers. I asked my wife to accompany me, because it was a very painful sensation. Go alone, touch your stuff. And having it in my hands I felt a very great emotion, it was something very strong, because reading what he wrote was like listening to his story.
- Has anyone else known this story?
-I think so, at least at the level of General Maglio, who was the director of the Military College. And from Minister Lucero. But my dad supposed no one else.
- Do you remember if at any time, in your house, your dad talked about World War II or Hitler? Or the alleged presence of the Nazis in Argentina?
-Directly, no. My dad was very reserved. I remember that when I was a boy, the topic of World War II was spoken at home once, but from a military point of view. Only once did he say that he did not believe that Hitler had committed suicide in the bunker. And I took it as a simple comment.
According to Abel Basti , researcher and author of several books on the subject, the story of Lieutenant Colonel Julio Arturo Heil's son would show that Hitler was staying at the San Ramón ranch in Bariloche:
-All this confirms what Edgar Ibargaray said, nephew of a general named Bonecarrere . When he received military service, he was sent to Bariloche and as a driver of the detachment he was twice with Hitler, in the San Ramón room. The same gravel road, the lake next to it, the chalet, the corridor. Everything matches. But when he was discharged and returned to Buenos Aires, the uncle ordered him to shut his mouth and never talk about it. As he passed away, now I can tell.
Could it be that over time new secrets will be discovered?
Although the protagonists are no longer among us, it is likely that their descendants will find documents, remember episodes, associate dates and places.
And be encouraged to speak.