- I am attaching a transcript about the Nobel Prize winners
showing that such bacteria in ulcers could be seen MICROSCOPICALLY -- yet
they were "missed" and ignored for a century -- and the finding
put some drugs out of business. This all relates directly to "bacteria
in cancer" and the "four women" -- and the refusal of the
cancer establishment to look at this century-old research.
- It is obvious to me that the recognition of bacteria
in cancer, sarcoid, scleroderma, lupus, and certain other diseases of "unknown
cause" would pose a THREAT to cancer 'treatment' and drug 'therapy'
- In the meantime, millions of people continue to suffer
and die of these diseases for which the medical establishment claims the
"cause" is not known--- and yet the research showing bacteria
in these diseases is IGNORED. For PROOF: Google: "cancer bacteria."
- Alan Cantwell MD
- Please pass on to interested others
- PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT
- LOCATION: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1474662.htm
- Broadcast: October 4, 2005
- Nobel Prize winners join elite group of Australians
- Reporter: Mick O'Donnell
- MAXINE McKEW: A call from Stockholm last night to two
close mates in Perth has placed them on the elite roll of internationally
celebrated scientists. Robin Warren and Barry Marshall have won the 2005
Nobel Prize for Medicine. This places them among the very few Australians
- only eight - to receive the prestigious award. They join famous names
such as Peter Doherty, Howard Florey and McFarlane Burnett in being honoured
for ground-breaking medical research. Professors Warren and Marshall revolutionised
the treatment of stomach ulers with their research in the early '80s. And
like all great science discovery tales, this one has the underdogs triumphing
over a dominant orthodoxy. Mick O'Donnell reports.
- MICK O'DONNELL: It's a long way from the lonely years
in the lab to the limelight of the Nobel laureate.
- BARRY MARSHALL, 2005 NOBEL PRIZE WINNER: It's not as
if we sat down one day and said, "Ulcers, that's an important problem
we should tackle." We just drifted into it.
- MICK O'DONNELL: But today, 20 years after their quiet
laboratory breakthrough, two Western Australian medical scientists stepped
gracefully, even humbly, into the glare of world attention.
- BARRY MARSHALL: If you've got a balanced life you're
not really going to change.
- MICK O'DONNELL: Barry Marshall at 54 is a professor of
microbiologist at the University of Western Australia. Robin Warren is
retired at 68 after a pathology career at the Royal Perth Hospital.
- ROBIN WARREN, 2005 NOBEL PRIZE WINNER: When they rang
me from Stockholm suddenly the blood ran from my head - I could feel it.
- BARRY MARSHALL: You didn't look well, Robin.
- MICK O'DONNELL: As of last night they're Australia's
newest recipients of the Nobel prize for Medicine, the world's most prestigious,
joining four other Australians over recent years. Peter Doherty, the microbiologist
who won in '96, just wrote a book called 'A Beginners Guide to Winning
the Nobel Prize'.
- PETER DOHERTY, 1996 NOBEL PRIZE WINNER: It was fantastic
to see Barry and Robin win this and a tremendous accolade for Australian
science and for a really rather simple but very powerful discovery that's
had enormous effort on human wellbeing.
- MICK O'DONNELL: Behind the humble demeanour of the two
Perth winners is a quiet confidence in the significance of their research.
The discovery that a bacterium, bacterium helicobacter pilori, not stress,
is the cause of stomach ulcers.
- PROFESSOR TERRY BOLIN, GUT FOUNDATION: It was the most
revolutionary discovery in gastroenterology in the last quarter of a century.
Nothing else of that dramatic nature has exceeded it.
- MICK O'DONNELL: At Royal Perth Hospital back in the early
'80s Robin Warren noticed a strain of bacteria in a petri dish left for
longer than usual over the Easter break.
- ROBIN WARREN: Just by chance I saw this bacteria from
a biopsy from the stomach. I tried to show them to my colleagues in the
laboratory because they looked very interesting to me. I thought they looked
very interesting and no-one would believe me.
- MICK O'DONNELL: Dismissed as obsessive, Warren found
a kindrid spirit in Barry Marshall. The two had to fight a prevailing orthodoxy
to resist the idea that a bug caused ulcers.
- BARRY MARSHALL: We said, "Let's look back a bit
and look down the ordinary old microscope, and we can see these bugs everywhere".
And they said, "No, you can't. It's just in Western Australia, there's
something wrong with that place."
- MICK O'DONNELL: They teamed up and examined dozens of
stomach biopsies and convinced themselves that the stress theory was simply
- BARRY MARSHALL: The paradox was that many people gave
up this stressful lifestyle trying to protect themselves from ulcers, and
they still had the ulcers.
- ROBIN WARREN: Drug companies were making masses of money
out of it, too.
- MICK O'DONNELL: At the time major drug companies had
introduced acid reducing drugs which were prescribed in a huge worldwide
market. Marshall and Warren showed a simple course of antibiotics could
stop 80- 90 per cent of ulcers.
- BARRY MARSHALL: A pharmaceutical company want to sell
you a drug that you take every day for the rest of your life, a cholesterol
drug, a diabetes drug, they are great sellers. If they sell you a drug
which cures you, you only need to take it once or for one week. So how
can you make it generate as much profit?
- MICK O'DONNELL: You've killed the market?
- BARRY MARSHALL: That's right.
- ROBIN WARREN: The drugs went out of business because
we stopped the bacteria so they weren't needed anymore.
- MICK O'DONNELL: Today, Barry Marshall was asked over
and over to repeat the anecdote that he dosed himself with the bacteria
in 1984, to prove the bug they nicknamed the helicopter was the culprit.
- BARRY MARSHALL: Somebody had to do it, swallow the bacteria
and develop the disease.
- ROBIN WARREN: He sent a piece to me and it was a very
nasty and inflamed stomach.
- BARRY MARSHALL: I said to my wife, "We were right."
And she said, "What?" "I took the bacteria, I've got the
illness." She said, "You did what?! Here we are trying to manage
with all of these little children and the chaos in our lives and in the
middle of it you make yourself sick." I was then threatened with eviction.
- PROFESSOR TERRY BOLIN, GUT FOUNDATION: Barry was quite
courageous in swallowing this concoction that apparently contained the
bacteria and got terrible gastro-intestinal problems afterwards, but then
it was a long road of proving the association with ulcers, the bacteria
and then eradicating the ulcers with antibiotic therapy.
- MICK O'DONNELL: In 1990 an international medical committee
held a news conference to endorse the Marshall-Warren research.
- JOHN VERREN: I saw my father die from the same problem
and I'm quite convinced that I was well on the way to following in his
- MICK O'DONNELL: Now millions around the world just like
Perth man John Verron have had their gastric and peptic ulcers quickly
cured, thanks to these two Perth researchers.
- JOHN VERREN: This is a new world. There's no reason to
- PROFESSOR TERRY BOLIN: Ulcers are now disappearing in
the West. They're still prevalent in developing countries.
- PETER DOHERTY: They'll be feeing pretty happy about it
and they'll be tired and they'll be maybe even thinking a little bit, are
they sure they got the right guys? I think probably not in this case because
it's been out there for such a long time and people realise it's so important
for such a long time, it seems such an obvious Nobel prize really.
- MICK O'DONNELL: Robin Warren is retired but returned
to his workplace at Royal Melbourne today for a few pats on his back. The
two seem unfazed by the prize money that comes with the Nobel - $750,000
- BARRY MARSHALL: It's monopoly money, just the numbers
that you can't comprehend really.
- ROBIN WARREN: My computer crashed last night and at the
same time Barry has got about 100 emails from around the world. Perhaps
it's a good time for my computer to crash. Perhaps I'll buy a big new computer
- MAXINE MCKEW: Maybe he will. A couple of great new champions
- Alan Cantwell M.D.
- FOUR WOMEN AGAINST CANCER
- Book Review
- Four Women Against Cancer: Bacteria, Cancer & the
Origin of Life
- Alan Cantwell, Jr., M.D.
- Aries Rising Press (PO Box 29532, Los Angeles, CA 90029;
- 323-462-6458). $16.95 + $4 s/h
- Review by Joan d'Arc
- Four Women Against Cancer presents
the early revolutionary microbe research of four great women scientists:
physician Virginia Livingston, MD; microbiologist Eleanor Alexander-Jackson;
cell cytologist Irene Diller; and biochemist Florence Seibert. Dr. Cantwell
explores the "mysterious" microbial cause of various diseases
and relates it to the origin of life. According to cancer researcher Vincent
Gammill, "you won't find a better overview of the scientific justification
for a bacterial etiology of cancer and the great lengths to which the medical
establishment will go to suppress this research."
- In his long career as a dermatologist, Dr. Cantwell specialized
in Kaposi's Sarcoma, an AIDs-related skin cancer. He is the author of The
Cancer Microbe (1990), AIDS and the Doctors of Death (1992), Queer Blood:
Secret AIDS Genocide Plot (1993), and is a frequent contributor to Paranoia,
including paranoiamagazine.com. Back in the 1950s, he writes, four women
discovered the "cancer germ" that continues to be denied by the
cancer industry. This infectious agent had characteristics of both bacteria
and virus, and produced a hormone that allowed continual reproduction and
renewal. Not only does Dr. Cantwell discuss the bacterial etiology of cancer,
but he tells the story of how similar microbes are related to other infectious
diseases, such as AIDS-related cancer, leprosy and scleroderma.
- Dr. Cantwell's chapter on scleroderma is most interesting.
Scleroderma is a horrible disease that slowly encases the victim in hardened
skin. In this chapter, Dr. Cantwell befriends Dr. Virginia Livingston,
who had discovered that the etiology of scleroderma was similar to leprosy,
which is known to have a bacterial cause. Dr. Cantwell ends up taking a
trip to a morgue to obtain a skin specimen of a man who had recently died
of scleroderma (and he finds the mortician quite amenable to his taking
the specimen)! In fact, the bacterial etiology of scleroderma was what
led Virginia to look for a microbe as the cause of cancer. By the time
her report on scleroderma was published, she had discovered the bacterial
etiology of cancer. According to Dr. Livingston, Progenitor cryptocides
is the germ that allows life to reproduce, but is also the taker of life:
the cause of aberrant cell reproduction.
- In their suppressed clinical research of the 1950s, both
Virginia and Eleanor had used "autogenous" vaccines, tailor made
from the patient's own specific bacteria, to immunize their patients against
cancer and other diseases. Virginia had proposed not only that all infants
be immunized at birth against P. cryptocides, but that cattle and chickens
be immunized in order to eliminate cancer from the food chain. Virginia's
animal vaccines had been highly successful in decreasing cancer in animals,
and her chicken cancer vaccine was licensed in 1986. This woman was clearly
before her time: She advocated the immunization of family pets, and she
- As Dr. Cantwell tells us, in 1990 the California Health
Department ordered Dr. Livingston to cease and desist the use of autogenous
vaccines to treat cancer. There had been no patient complaints against
her clinic. She wrote optimistically, "I am confident that all my
findings will be universally corroborated and that my treatment methods,
or close variations thereof, will eventually become the prevalent treatment
of cancer." Could it be the cancer industry didn't want to find a
- In the end, the cancer establishment never took these
women's ideas seriously and never invested a dime into research to see
whether they were on the right trail. As Dr. Cantwell writes, Virginia
was expected to prove with her own finances to both the National Cancer
Institute and the FDA that her vaccines were safe and effective against
cancer. Her vaccines were labeled quackery and she endured vicious slander
by the press.
- In fact, this valid scientific research into the bacterial
cause of cancer continues to be derided by the cancer establishment to
this day, even though a bacterial cause for many diseases - from tonsilitis
to peptic ulcers to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease - is in the news
practically every day! Indeed, a significant body of evidence exists for
bacterial translocation (passage across the intestinal barrier) and multiple
- When viewed under the microscope, Four Women Against
Cancer cracks open the case for a suppressed cancer cure and a capitalistic
cancer 'industry' with more to gain by keeping us sick.
- Alan Cantwell M.D.
- FOUR WOMEN AGAINST CANCER