- Jeff - It is so difficult to know what is really happening
in China. If only we could get samples from both human and porcine cases
we would have a better idea on etiologic agent or coinfection agents.
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- I noted one of the symptoms in porcine cases was foaming
at the mouth. I thought that so odd and it sounded like rabies.
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- Bacteria can be coinfections with viral illnesses, or
as a result of depressed immune function from viral illness.
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- We saw some of the SARS and even H5N1 cases develop bacterial
pneumonia. Some cases of H5N1 developed bacterial meningitis and some developed
viral meningitis.
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- China is definitely hiding something and that is why
the complete news blackout on the diseases and that is why some of the
research labs there were shut down. It is the main reason why NO samples
of cases are allowed to be studied either by Chinese researchers or scientists
abroad. Only certain GOVERNMENT research labs can research these illnesses.
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- They have had a "Chinese Plum Island" boo boo
or their vaccine caused the outbreak. This is not typical Asian H5N1 or
typical Strep Suis type 2 pig bacteria. (Of that I am sure!)
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- One of the promed posts described the administering of
H5N1 vaccine by putting it into water sources, or by aerosol which would
enable better and more complete dispersal and would better distribute the
vaccine between birds, humans and mammals. Maybe they sprayed poison, disease
without realizing it. Some of the vaccine was described as activated. In
other words they took the 2004 H5N1, cloned and mutated it to produce the
vaccine.
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- Reverse Genetics:
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- The experimental procedure that begins with a cloned
segment of DNA, or a protein sequence, and uses this knowledge to introduce
programmed mutations (through directed mutagenesis) back into the genome
in order to investigate gene and protein function.
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- What if they gave the vaccine to pigs? What if the mutations
caused the virus to jump to man? What if the pig bacteria transmitted to
humans or became part of the new mutation? What if the new flu strain to
be incorporated in the vaccine turned out to cause the flu, the new mutated
version?
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- I still wonder about "foaming at the mouth?"
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- Patty
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- http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/focuson/flu/illustration
s/reassort_rev/reassortmentVreversegenetics.htm
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- Focus on the Flu
- Reassortment vs. Reverse Genetics
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- A comparison of the age-old method of making a flu vaccine
with a new, more efficient technique.
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- Reassortment
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- View Reassortment Illustration showing how researchers
use reassortment, which is the swapping and mixing of gene segments between
two different viral strains inside a fertilized chicken egg, to create
a new vaccine.
- High resolution illustration is available for downloading
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- Reverse Genetics
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- View Reverse Genetics Illustration showing how researchers
use reverse genetics to custom-make a flu strain to be incorporated into
a vaccine.
- High resolution illustration is available for downloading
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- Patricia A. Doyle, PhD
- Please visit my "Emerging Diseases" message
board at: http://www.clickitnews.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php?
Cat=&Board=emergingdiseases
- Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa
- Go with God and in Good Health
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- Comment
From Leslie Bell
7-29-5
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- The answer is simple. We have been attacking China with
biological agents for years now. And to their credit, they have not yet
retaliated.
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- How do we know this? Because China would obviously be
testing agents that attacked ONLY non-Asians. On the contrary, all the
recent "Chinese" illnesses have been expressly genetically targeted
at Asians and people of Asian ancestry, i.e. American Indians. Indeed,
our government has been testing these illnesses against our American Indian
population for at least five years, when the first "outbreak"
of the hanta virus (supposedly from mice) nearly wiped out entire reservations.
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- We have to understand something. We cannot allow ourselves
to be driven by the same paranoia that drives the neocons and their ilk.
China is an extremely reluctant adversary, one that is loathe to fight
the United States, for they know what this would mean AT THIS POINT IN
TIME. Although they realize they will win (more land, more people to survive
an all-out nuclear exchange) they also realize it would take decades to
repair their infrastructure.
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- HOWEVER, if we continue attacking China and her allies
(Iran, North Korea) in these clandestine ways, THEY WILL BE FORCED TO RESPOND
IN KIND.
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- And it won't be survivable, not by THIS country. Not
with its open borders, troops halfway across the world, NO NATIONAL GUARD,
and only a Nazified FEMA'ed police under siege.
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- It is not enough to ask yourself "Why are the neocons
and their masters intent on suiciding America?" Why indeed does any
dictator, no matter how benign (and I use the term loosely) ALWAYS self-destruct
in the end?
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- Because the entity, the spirit, the drive that gave them
the power in the first place lives only to laugh as it pisses it all away
and NOTHING IS LEFT.
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- THIS is the ONLY lesson to learn from history, and dictator
after dictator NEVER EVER does.
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- Indeed, when one country (the US in this case) is faced
with an overwhelming challenge like China (and where China will be in the
next century, barring all-out nuclear war), the PRUDENT thing to do is
to befriend it, help it become what it must become, and then become a parasite
state. Being China's Israel would have been MUCH preferable to being China's
Taiwan or Tibet, but suicidal necons in control of young lives would much
rather THROW THEM AWAY in a last-ditch attempt at world domination.
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- HA.
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- Clinton was RIGHT. And it's just good ole common sense.
You get more with honey than vinegar. You get more by LOVING YOUR ENEMIES
than by KILLING YOURSELF TRYING TO, in utter FUTILITY, destroy them.
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- All else is idiocy. Suicidal idiocy.
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- Leslie Bell
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