A Different Nostradamus Prophecy
Might Fit George Bush, Jr
Note: John Hogue will be Jeff's guest on Thursday, 12-28, to discuss
Nostradamus quatrains which may fit the President-elect.

From Dan Ahrens

Prophecies Denied?
From Nicholas Juhasz
There is an idea that comes to mind in reference to the current activities of the president elect George W. Bush. Consider this. Based on the honest and forthright statements of integrity and honesty with the American Public of people appointed to the cabinet of W. is it possible to consider that perhaps we have dodged the prophetic apocolypse bullet? If they do what they say they will do could it be that we have turned the corner and avoided the hellfire and damnation, beginnining in this decade (read "new paradigm"), of the bible and every other religeon and beleif of any consequence.
Al Gore was an obvious liar. If elected we would surley expect our ears to be tickled with what we wanted to here. I have no doubt that self ingratiating lies only bring destruction. If Bush were elected we would expect a sophisticated array of lies in the background which in my opinion would be behind the scenes skulldugery that would in large part support this nation. If the tennants of the Constitution are supported at home while using fire against fire to the opponents of the Constitution are used abroad then the Nation will prosper and the beacon of light of freedom we call the Bill of Rights and The Constitution will remain a paradigm that all peoples of the earth would gladly reproduce for thier own nations and peoples. Remember our Creator. Remember Humanity. Remember all peoples of this Earth want the same things, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. We really are all the same when we speak of Humanity.
The peoples of this Country have voted AGAINST obvious deception. Exit stage left Clinton and Gore. The peoples of this country have voted FOR the appearance of honesty and Constitutionality. Enter stage right Bush and Cheney.
Will voting for hidden lies abroad and truth at home be our ultimate undoing or our first step towards salvation and reproof that the only true path is a Constitutional Republic for each nation to unite the Earth by keeping our differing strengths the uniting force that binds us as a civilization worthy to continue our lineage to the stars and planets beyond.
From William Steidtmann

How About THIS Interpretation??
A doubtful man shall not come far from the reign,
[Al Gore almost won]
The greatest part will uphold him,
[Al Gore had the popular vote]
A capitol will not consent that he should reign,
[sorry Al, Bush wins]
His great chair he shall not be able to maintain.
[can't be Vice Pres anymore]
Hi Jeff,
I think this one is a more accurate prophecy. I noticed that in the quatrain 13 in century 6 Nostradamus wrote:
A doubtful man shall not come far from the reign,
The greatest part will uphold him,
A capitol will not consent that he should reign,
His great chair he shall not be able to maintain.
The reign may not last long?
Dan Ahrens
John Hogue wrote:
Hi Jeff,
At present, it fits far better for President Nixon in our recent past. But it is a quatrain worth considering for Bush.
Here is what I just wrote about Quatrain 13; Century 6 in my most recent HogueProphecy Bulletin.
Here is a real Nostradamus quatrain one could apply to President-Elect Bush.
Dear friends,
We have recently seen a four-line quatrain prophecy about a village idiot becoming the next U.S. president. The prophecy is a fraud attributed to Nostradamus. There is, however, an authentic quatrain that bears closer scrutiny in the coming years. It could be applied to the future presidency of George W. Bush. It is Quatrain 13 of Century 6 of his prophetic masterpiece, Les Propheties.
(First in 16th-Century French)
Vn dubieux ne viendra loing du regne, La plus grand part le voudra soustenir: Vn Capitole ne voundra point qu'il regne, Sa grande change ne pourra maintenir.
(In English)
A doubtful one will not come far from the realm, The greater part will want to support him: A Capitol, will not want him to rule at all, His great burden he will not be able to maintain.
This "doubtful one" could stand for the intellectually lightweight president-elect George W. Bush. The "doubt" could imply some ongoing suspicion throughout his presidency that Bush cheated Al Gore (who won the majority of the popular national vote) out of the popular vote in Florida by shady tactics. A fraud in the Florida vote count effectively gave Bush the necessary electoral votes to "legally" win the election. Nostradamus' use of "doubtful one" could also indicate that with time an ever larger shadow of illegitimacy will cast itself across a Bush presidency.
The second line might describe a period of attempted healing during the aftermath of the election. A time when a majority of the people of America will try to rally around their "doubtful" new president.
Line three may hint to us who President Bush's real political enemies are. By the way, it may not be the Democrats in the deadlocked Congress. My sense is it will be the right wing elements of his own Republican Party. But the obstacles do not end there. Those who "will not want him to rule" could be those men behind the scenes that may have put this malleable man into office to be their rehearsed puppet spokesman for their agenda.
How could those who put him there turn against him?
Looking at Bush's natal astrological chart I see the potential for great self-delusion and a predilection for substance abuse. The abuse in this case comes from the drug called "power." (I will speak in detail about his astrology in a forthcoming bulletin, and on Coast to Coast AM with Barbara Simpson, on 2 January.)
At some time in his presidency Bush will rebel against his handlers. As his presidency becomes more besieged with problems and credibility, he might strive to be his own man and cease to listen to his advisers, causing even greater problems and greater strains upon himself. The last line, therefore, may describe what I fear is some nervous breakdown or health problem coming from the overwhelming pressures put upon a basically good, yet emotionally and intellectually immature man.
Now, with this interpretation said, I wish to caution you all that there is an even stronger application for this quatrain for an earlier Republican president; one respected by the French people. It must be remembered that Nostradamus saw the future through the perception of a Frenchman. If foreigners come into his vision it is because they are in some way appreciative of, or are influencing the future of, France. We do not know how the French will ultimately regard Bush. Indeed the early signs point to present day and future ridicule. Be that as it may, on page 448 of my book "Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies," I applied this prophecy to Richard Nixon back in 1997. Here is what I said:
"This is [about] Nixon. Nostradamus would not overlook a man who did so much to change the course of 20th-century history. But our prophet, ever the pessimist, had Nixon to "kick around" long before the controversial American president was born.
"In line 1 Nixon is the "doubltful one" who is regarded warmly in France. Even the querulous Charles de Gaulle was an admirer. After Nixon's fall following the Watergate scandal, he could still find respect and honors during his visits to the "realm" of France. Perhaps Nostradamus is saying that Nixon is "not far" from being a Frenchman. In line 2 the "greater part" supporting Nixon during the 1968 presidential elections was what he called the Silent Majority. He declared himself the champion of normal, middle-class Americans who were not represented in the turbulent political arena of the late 1960s. Line 3's "Capitol" represents Washington DC, and the Democrat-controlled Congress of the United States. Their fierce political rivalry with the Republican president finally led to their vote for his impeachment, forcing him to resign from office. Line 4 depicts a Nixon burdened with the cover-up over Watergate, unable to maintain power and fulfill his far-reaching geopolitical dreams to end the Cold War."
Time and events will tell whether Nostradamus' Quatrain 13 of Century 6 describes the tragedy of a president past, or president future.
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