- Hi Jeff -
- I have attached below the startling testimony by Carol
Rosin to the Project Disclosure (Steven Greer). Take note of the date,
it is well before Sept 11, and subsequent events. It deals with the hidden
agenda to weaponize space under cover of four bogus threats - specifically,
a Russian threat (culminating in Star Wars); a terrorist/rogue nations
threat (son of Star Wars); followed by an asteroid threat, and finally
a hostile ET threat.
- I am sure you are familiar with it, but given recent
history I feel more people should consider this agenda as a likely candidate
for one of the hidden reasons behind the 'war on terror' etc. I have already
published it years ago, and mention it at any conference I speak at. I
am always astonished at how few so-called UFO researchers have even heard
of her, given that they all should have read all of the testimonies delivered
to Greer's Disclosure Project.
- Duncan Roads
- NEXUS Magazine
- Testimony of Dr Carol Rosin
- December 2000
- Dr Carol Rosin was the first woman corporate manager
of Fairchild Industries and was spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun in the
last years of his life. She founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation
in Outer Space in Washington DC and has testified before Congress on many
occasions about space based weapons. Von Braun revealed to Dr Rosin a plan
to justify weapons in spaced based on hoaxing an extraterrestrial threat.
She was also present at meetings in the '70s when the scenario for the
Gulf War of the '90s was planned.
- CR: Dr Carol Rosin
- SG: Dr Steven Greer
- CR: My name is Carol Rosin. I am an educator who became
the first woman corporate manager of an Aerospace Company, Fairchild Industries.
I am a Space and Missile Defense Consultant and have consulted to a number
of companies, organizations, and government departments, even the intelligence
community. I was a consultant to TRW working on the MX missile, so I was
part of that strategy, which turned out to be a role model for how to sell
space-based weapons to the public. The MX missile is yet another weapon
system that we didn't need. I founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation
in Outer Space, a Washington DC based think tank. I am an author and have
testified before Congress and the President's Commission on Space.
When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries from 1974 through
1977, I met the late Dr Wernher Von Braun. We first met in early 1974.
At that time, Von Braun was dying of cancer but he assured me that he would
live a few more years to tell me about the game that was being played-
that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control the Earth from
space and space itself. Von Braun had a history of working with weapons
systems. He escaped from Germany to come to this country and became a Vice
President of Fairchild Industries when I had met him. Von Braun's purpose
during the last years of his life, his dying years, was to educate the
public and decision-makers about why space-based weapons are dumb, dangerous,
destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary, unworkable, and an undesirable
idea, and about the alternatives that are available.
- As practically a deathbed speech, he educated me about
those concepts and who the players were in this game. He gave me the responsibility,
since he was dying, of continuing this effort to prevent the weaponization
of outer space. When Wernher Von Braun was dying of cancer, he asked me
to be his spokesperson, to appear on occasions when he was too ill to speak.
I did this.
- What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence
that he said to me over and over again during the approximately four years
that I had the opportunity to work with him. He said the strategy that
was being used to educate the public and decision makers was to use scare
tactics That was how we identify an enemy. The strategy that Wernher Von
Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered
to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified
enemy. We were told that they had "killer satellites". We were
told that they were coming to get us and control us-that they were "Commies."
Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard
a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country
"crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that
would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.
- The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind
of chuckled the first time he said it.
Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.
- And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens,
extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and
over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for
him, he would bring up that last card. "And remember Carol, the last
card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons
against aliens and all of it is a lie."
I think I was too naïve at that time to know the seriousness of the
nature of the spin that was being put on the system. And now, the pieces
are starting to fall into place. We are building a space-based weapons
system on a premise that is a lie, a spin. Wernher Von Braun was trying
to hint that to me back in the early 70's and right up until the moment
when he died in 1977.
What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place. He didn't
mention a timeline but he said that it was going to be speeding up faster
than anybody could possibly imagine. That the effort to put weapons into
space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of
people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.
When Von Braun was dying in front of me, the very first day that I met
him, he had tubes draining out of his side. He was tapping on the desk
telling me, "You will come to Fairchild." I was a schoolteacher.
He said, "You will come to Fairchild and you will be responsible for
keeping weapons out of space." The way he said it with this intenseness
in his eyes, and added that very first day, the first time I met him, that
space-based weapons were a dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary,
untestable, unworkable idea.
The last card that was being held was the extraterrestrial enemy card.
The intensity with which he said that, made me realize that he knew something
that he was too afraid to mention. He was too afraid to talk about it.
He would not tell me the details.
I am not sure that I would have absorbed them if he had told me the details
or even believed him in 1974. But there was no question that that man knew
and had a need to know, I found out later.
- There is no doubt in my mind that Wernher Von Braun knew
about the extraterrestrial issue. He explained to me the reasons why weapons
were going to be put into space, the enemies against whom we were going
to build these weapons, and that all of that was a lie. He mentioned that
extraterrestrials were going to be identified as the final enemy against
whom we were going to build space-based weapons back in 1974.
The way he said it to me, there was no doubt in my mind that he knew something
that he was too afraid to talk about.
Wernher Von Braun never spoke to me about any of the details that he knew
related to extraterrestrials except that one day extraterrestrials were
going to be identified as an enemy against whom we are going to build an
enormous space-based weapons system. Wernher Von Braun actually told me
that the spin was a lie-that the premise for space-based weaponry, the
reasons that were going to be given, the enemies that we were going to
identify-were all based on a lie.
I have been tracking the space-based weapons issue for about 26 years.
I have debated Generals and Congressional Representatives. I have testified
before the Congress and the Senate. I have met with people in over 100
countries. But I have not been able to identify who the people are who
are making this space-based weapons system happen. I see the news. I see
the administrative decisions being made. I know that they are all based
on lies and greed.
- But I have yet to be able to identify who the people
are. That is after tracking this issue for 26 years. I know that there
are big secrets being kept and I know that it is time the public and decision-makers
pay attention to the people who are now going to be disclosing the truth.
Then we need to make some definite changes and build a system in space
that will benefit every single person, and all of the animals, and the
environment of this planet. The technology is there. The solutions to Earth's
urgent and long-term potential problems are there. I have a feeling that
once we start studying this extraterrestrial issue, all of the questions
are going to be answered that I have had for 26 years.
But I have concluded that it is based on a few people making a lot of money
and gaining power. It is about ego. It is not about our essence and who
we really are on this planet and loving each other and being at peace and
cooperating. It isn't about using technology to solve problems and heal
people in the planet. It isn't about that. It is about a few people who
really are playing an old, dangerous, costly game for their own pocketbooks
and power struggle. That is all it is.
I believe that this entire space-based weapons game is initiated right
here in the United States of America. What I hope is that with this information
that is being disclosed, the new administration will to do what is right.
That is to transform the war game into a space game so that we use the
technologies that are available not just as spin-offs of war technology,
but as direct technological applications to build a cooperative space system
that will benefit the entire world and that will allow us to communicate
with the extraterrestrial cultures that are obviously out there.
Who would benefit from these space-based weapons? They are the people who
work in that arena, people in the military, in industries, in universities
and labs, in the intelligence community. This is not just in the United
States but it is worldwide. This is a worldwide cooperative system. Wars
are cooperative. Just as peace will be when it breaks out. But right now
there are a lot of people benefiting.
This is what our economy has been based on in this country and spreading
around the world-war. People suffer as a result. It is not fair. It never
has been. People have screamed: "out of swords let us build plow shares,
let's have peace and hold hands around the world," but it hasn't worked
because too many people are benefiting. Not only are they benefiting financially,
but from what my experience is there are people who actually believe that
Armageddon should happen so we have to have these wars.
So, it is going from the pocketbook, to the religious right: some people
actually believe that we have to have wars for these religious reasons.
There are people who just love war. I have met warriors who just love to
go to war. Then there are the good people, the soldiers, who just take
orders. They have to feed their children and send them to college so they
want to keep their jobs.
People in laboratories have told me that they don't want to work on these
technologies for war but if they don't they won't get a paycheck. Who is
going to pay them? But what I see is that there are not only dual uses
for these technologies but there are many uses for the same technologies.
- We can build space hospitals, schools, hotels, laboratories,
farms, industries. It may sound far out but if we don't do that we are
going to build battle stations and weapons pointed down all of our throats
and into space. Apparently we have been doing some of that already.
We have a choice now that can be made. We can all benefit-all of the people
in the military industrial complex, in the intelligence community, in universities
and labs, in the United States and all over the world-we can all benefit.
We can just transform that industry so easily with just a decision based
on our highest consciousness, our spirituality, and on the fact that we
have no choice unless we all want to die. And we don't. So we can all benefit
financially, spiritually, socially, psychologically; it is technologically
and politically feasible to transform this game now and everybody will
In 1977, I was at a meeting in Fairchild Industries in a conference room
called the War Room. In that room were a lot of charts on the walls with
enemies, identified enemies. There were other more obscure names, names
like Saddam Hussein and Khadafi. But we were talking then about terrorists,
the potential terrorists. No one had ever talked about this before but
this was the next stage after the Russians against whom we were going to
build these space-based weapons. I stood up in this meeting and I said,
"Excuse me, why are we talking about these potential enemies against
whom we are going to build space-based weapons if, in fact, we know that
they are not the enemy at this time?"
Well, they continued the conversation about how they were going to antagonize
these enemies and that at some point, there was going to be a war in the
Gulf, a Gulf War. Now this is 1977, 1977! And they were talking about creating
a war in the Gulf Region when there was 25 billion dollars in the space-based
weapons program that had yet to be identified. It wasn't called the Strategic
Defense Initiative, at least. Not until 1983. This weapons system, then,
had obviously been going on for some time and I didn't know anything about.
So I stood up in this meeting in 1977 and said, "I would like to know
why we are talking about space-based weapons against these enemies. I would
like to know more about this. Would someone please tell me what this is
about?" Nobody answered. They just went on with this meeting as though
I hadn't said anything.
Suddenly, I stood up in the room and said, "If nobody can tell me
why you are planning a war in the Gulf when there is a certain amount of
money in a budget so that you can create the next set of weapons systems
that will be the beginning of the sell to the public about why we need
space-based weapons, then consider this: my resignation. And you will not
hear from me again!"
And nobody said a word, because they were planning a war in the Gulf and
it happened exactly as they planned it, on time.
SG: Who was at this meeting?
CR: The room was filled with people in the revolving door game. There were
people that I had seen once in a military uniform and other times in a
gray suit and an industry outfit. These people play a revolving door game.
They work as consultants, industry people, and/or military and intelligence
people. They work in the industries and they revolve themselves through
these doors and right into government positions.
I stood up in this meeting and asked if I was hearing correctly. That when
there was 25 billion dollars expended in the space-based weapons budget,
that there was going to be a war in the Gulf, stimulated, created, so that
they could then sell the next phase of weapons to the public and the decision-makers.
This war was going to be created so that they could dump the old weapons
and create a whole new set of weapons. So I had to resign from that position.
I could no longer work in that industry.
In about 1990 I was sitting in my living room looking at the money that
had been spent on space-based weapons research and development programs
and I realized that it had come to that number, about 25 billion dollars,
and I said to my husband, "I am now going to stop everything. I am
now going to stop and sit and watch CNN television and I am going to wait
for the war to happen." My husband said, "Well, you have finally
gone over the edge. You have flipped out."
- Friends said, "You have really gone too far this
time. There is not going to be a war in the Gulf, nobody is talking about
a war in the Gulf."
I said, "There is going to be a war in the Gulf. I am going to sit
here and wait for the war in the Gulf." And it happened right on schedule.
As part of the war game in the Gulf, we in the public were told that the
United States was successful in shooting down Russian Scud Missiles. We
were rationalizing new budgets based on that success. In fact, we found
out later, after the budgets were approved for the next phase of weapons,
that it was a lie. We did not have successful shoot-downs the way we were
told. It was all a lie, just to get more money put in the budget to make
I was one of the first people to go independently to Russia when I heard
that they had "killer satellites."
- [See the testimony of Dr Paul Czysz. SG]
When I went to Russia in the early 70's, I found out that they didn't have
killer satellites, that it was a lie. In fact, the Russian leaders and
people wanted peace. They wanted to cooperate with the United States and
with the people of the world.
Another time I called Saddam Hussein when he was lighting his oil fields
on fire. My husband was in the kitchen while I was making this phone call.
I got a call back from his First Attaché with Saddam Hussein nearby
and he asked, "Are you a reporter? Are you an agent?
Why do you want to know?"
I said, "No. I am just a citizen who helped to start the movement
to prevent the weaponization of outer space and I have found that a lot
of stories that I have been told about weapons systems and the enemies
are not true. I wanted to find out what would satisfy Saddam Hussein so
he would stop making these oil fields catch fire and stop antagonizing
people." He said, "Well, nobody has ever asked him that question,
what he wants."
- So, when I hear that there is a possible threat of extraterrestrials-and
I look at the history of thousands of years of possible ET visitations,
and hear the disclosures of honest military-intelligence- industry people
who have had experiences with UFO's, with crashes and landings, with live
and dead bodies of extraterrestrial beings-I know it is a lie. And if I
am ever told that these are enemies against whom we have to build space-based
weapons systems, based on my own personal experience of having worked in
the military industrial complex on weapons systems and military strategy,
I am going to know it is a lie.
It is a lie.
Not only will I not believe it, but I am going to go out as loudly as I
can and tell everyone to take a look. They [the ET's] have not taken us
away yet. We are still here after thousands of years of visits. If in fact
they are still visiting us now and we have not been harmed then we have
to look at this as something that is not a hostile occurrence.
It would be my hope and my intention to do everything I could to work with
people who are working to communicate with and cooperate with these extraterrestrial
beings. They are clearly not hostile. We are here. That is enough proof
There is no limit to how people can choose to live on this planet. We have
a chance to do that and I think that the window is closing rapidly. I don't
think that we have much time in which to make that decision. We are too
close in too many ways to having some horrible disaster happen, having
some sort of war take place, whether it is from high technology or an exotic
We need leadership and it has to start with the United States President
and that is who we all have to reach. If you are international, if you
are around the world, if you are in the United States of America, whether
you are from any party, any belief system or religion- the United States
Commander in Chief, the President of the United States is the person that
needs to be reached.
We need to say that we want an ultimate, comprehensive, verifiable ban
on all space-based weapons.
- Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine
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- (Aldous Huxley)
From Scott T Davis
- Dear Jeff - As this lady supposedly tells her story she
states, Von Braun said the ET threat is a lie.
- Note - He did NOT say there were no ETs - just that they
were not a threat.
- Also, if she is so knowledgeable about space based weapons
and rubbed elbows with the power elite in the military - and claims to
be so well versed in weapons systems - she ought to know the scud missile
was not Russian built! It is and was a rocket built by the Chinese...