- In Response to: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/11/29/40124.html
- Ernst Zundel replies:
- I consider this a garbled account about the Third Reich's
best-kept secret weapons research and development: Circular flying craft,
commonly called UFOs. The article gives one an insight into the state of
the mind of at least a segment of the Russian reading public, when one
sees newspaper stories of this type, which mix pure speculation, propaganda
tales of World War II and weird, far-fetched occult themes with the serious
side of cutting edge technology. There is also the usual misspelling of
names, incomplete titles etc., and one wonders what original sources the
authors consulted for this rather incredible tale.
- Nonetheless, the goofy essay merits comment.
- I believe I can claim at least some familiarity with
the UFO topic, having authored and published some small booklets on Nazi
UFOs in the late '60s and early '70s - before I was forced by Germany's
enemies to tackle the hoary and fraudulent "Holocaust" claims
, which put an end to my youthful fascination and explorations of the esoteric.
This political derailing of my life caused me to become a serious activist
and made me dedicate my life to the clearing of my people's and country's
reputation by debunking an untrue accusation. Had my enemies left me alone,
who knows what flights of fancy might I have endulged in instead? :)
- Seriously: I personally corresponded with and interviewed
some of the German UFO researchers in the 1960s still alive then, including
Rudolf Lusar, post-war Germany's most famous author on German secret weapons
in World War II. Nobody ever told me about a secret project code-named
"Base 211", although some, who were aircraft engineers - one
attached to Hermann Goering's Reichs-Luftfahrtministerium, was personally
present when one of those circular crafts, being tethered to a concrete
floor of a large aircraft hangar and propulsion-tested in Wiener Neustadt,
Austria, broke its moorings and shot through the ceiling, damaging it and
the aircraft severely. I can say with certainty that advanced research,
production and flight testing were definitely going on during World War
II of these circular flying craft, some which could reach incredible heights
very quickly and obtain high speeds in horizontal flight - well in excess
of the speed of sound.
- Some of the sanest descriptions of German secret weapons
can be found in the bestselling books of Lusar, who was an aircraft engineer
and whose books went through several printings in the 1950s and 1960s.
The German title was "Deutsche Geheimwaffen des II. Weltkrieges und
ihre Weiterentwicklung." (German Secret Weapons And Their Continuing
Development) At least one English translation was published in London at
- In a similar vein, the American Air Force's Air Technical
Intelligence Chief, a general named Simon, published a hardcover book about
Nazi Secret Weapons he and his team had inspected and tested in the 1960s
with a small publishing house called WE Inc., based in Connecticut. It
is full of astonishing photos and rich in technical details. When I spoke
to the publisher, who had ordered some of the UFO books published by me,
he said: "Very interesting, Zündel, but you have only scratched
- One more very interesting source was a mass-circulation
book published in England and America, titled "Intercept But Don't
Shoot!" by Renato Vesco, who is alleged to have been Benito Mussolini's
Air Technical Intelligence Chief during World War II. Vesco lists an incredible
number of sources, among them whole sets of declassified British intelligence
and engineering assessments of German research projects, including weird
alloys, completely new metals and Rube Goldberg-like contraptions, all
tried and tested by the Germans. In the 1970s, it was obtainable from the
Queen's Printer in London.
- As to German Antarctic explorations - there was at least
one publicly known German Antarctic expedition undertaken by the Third
Reich in 1938 before the war broke out. The documentation is replete with
lots of maps, flying courses, black-and-white photographs and even a color
photo section. The title is "Die deutsche antarktische Expedition
1938", published by the Safari Verlag. The book itself is long out
of print - at least since 1945. However, the negatives of the aereal photos
taken by the expedition and some newsreel film footage survived World War
II and can be seen at Hamburg's famous Hydrographic Institute.
- The serious British publisher, W.R.D. McLaughlin, published
a book after the war called German Antarctic Raiders, which is about German
naval activity in the Antarctic in World War II.
- In the 1970s, a film documentary appeared about the German
Antarctica expedition on prime time German TV, which included filmed interviews
of some of the actual participants of that expedition. This expedition
team surveyed and mapped large areas and took soil, water and ice samples.
It charted the antarctic waters and air currents. It left behind hundreds
of Swastika flags driven into the antarctic snow and more hundreds of flags
air-dropped to lay proper explorers' rights of possession to that terrain.
All of this is documented in the above mentioned book. This expedition
claimed officially for Germany a clearly defined geographic area of the
Antarctic Continent and named warm water lakes and mountain ranges they
discovered you can read about and find on any map put out by the National
Geographic Society, for instance. This claim is presently recorded in the
Antarctica Gazetteer No. 14, available from the United States Board on
Geographic Names. There even exists a German Antarctic Foundation which,
through its various chapters around the world, keeps alive Germany's rightful
claim to the area, known as Neu-Schwabenland - and trust me, I had nothing
to do with the selection of that name, even though I am a proud, full-blooded
Swabian. I was born in 1939!
- Thus, Germany is far larger than the chopped-up, politically
truncated, demonically maligned little piece of real estate in the very
heart of Europe the Allies left behind after their defeat of Hitler. Germany's
Antarctic claim, never challenged, is three times the size of pre-World
War II Germany. Many of its highest, Alp-like mountains as well as lakes
and glaciers are named after those wicked Nazi crew and expedition members.
- In the 1990s I interviewed an American publisher and
author from Florida who publishes a magazine, called Sharkhunters, devoted
largely to WWII submarines with lots of famous U-Boat aces as contributors.
He told a fascinating story, which I broadcast on my satellite show, The
Voice of Freedom. He claims that he had, indeed, come across maps and photographs
of German Antarctic bases in World War II in the Chilean and Argentinian
naval archives, one based in Tierra del Fuego, accommodating approximately
- One Japanese national TV program invited me to Princeton
University in the middle 1990s where I was interviewed for hours and where
some of my unpublished material was filmed. This television program was
then enhanced with computer-generated, brilliantly done Nazi flying saucers,
being shielded by icebergs at first, gracefully rising out from Antarctic
ocean bases and glaciers. They are some sight to see - what with the Swastika
strikingly adorning these incredibly maneuverable, exotic flying craft
wobbling out of the choppy, iceberg-strewn ocean, shaking off pieces of
ice and trailing cascading water, as they elegantly zoom away at very high
- There is immense worldwide interest in this alleged German
Antarctic UFO activity, borne out by the fact that large-circulation Japanese
newspapers, magazines and TV programs devote a lot of space, money and
time to this story. One even came to interview me in Toronto and ended
up hiring one of my own "Zundel-Haus Lieutenants", a volunteer
who helped around the office, but who had lived in Argentina many years
and spoke several languages. This man had personal knowledge of the people
and places involved. That expedition is as well a fascinating one - but
too long to recount here. Perhaps another time!
- Even im America, the topic is a sizzling one. Right after
World War II, Col. Byrd, the famous American Arctic Explorer, was sent
to Antarctica by President Truman in 1947 with a military task force, equipped
with the latest military hardware including air craft carriers, submarines,
helicopters, even tanks. What was he looking for - in, of all places, Antarctica?
There are all kinds of articles, serious and otherwise, suggesting that
he was sent to smoke out Hitler's last stronghold there. National Geographic
Magazine covered that Task Force in over 40 pages of photographs and texts
- When I was younger than I am today and learned about
all these things in the 1970s, I tried to raise public awareness with my
little easy-to-read books, which turned quickly into controversial bestsellers,
going through numerous printings before I myself pulled the plug on the
"Secret Nazi UFO Project" by not reprinting and not writing new
material on this topic. My Jewish detractors made me change course, but
I want to touch briefly on a widely misreported story of my UFO exploits.
It had to do with my last UFO project, a planned Antarctic overflight via
a leased, extra-large, fuel tank equipped, long range Boeing 747 from South
- For political reasons, this airline had to fly non-stop
from Europe to South Africa, not being allowed to land and refuel anywhere
in Black Africa at the time, courtesy of apartheid. I had a lead on the
plane and had tentatively found a crew of Australian and New Zealanders
with 747 flying skills and training and also Antarctic overflight experience.
The idea itself was a bit of a publicity lark - we were going to toast
each other with champagne over the South Pole and drop a Hitler flag onto
some glaciers from the plane to send a greeting to whoever might have been
holed up down below. It caused lots of media interest. I had already close
to ten media and TV programs lined up whose executives had pledged the
$9,999.- fee to send their staff writers and photographers along - to see
for themselves what was down there!
- I was young, rich and adventurous then - and we were
all roaring to go. I had lots of fun and did up to three and four talk
shows a week on that "Nazi-Antarctic-UFO-Find-the Führer's Bases"
story and sold lots of UFO booklets to boot - when tragedy struck! An Air
New Zealand passenger plane crashed into Mt. Erebus, killing all passengers
and crew members. The subsequent, painstaking investigation came to no
firm conclusions on why the plane crashed. The United Nations, in conjunction
with the Big Powers - Russia, America, England etc. - got involved and
declared the Antarctic Continent off limits to all civilian overflights.
- Coincidence? It put an end to the Zundel UFO Adventure
- The last person to raise my "UFO past" and
grill me intensely on it was the famous Mike Wallace of "Sixty Minutes"
in the 1990s. Wallace seemed to be fascinated and not a little freaked
out by the topic. What does he have to fear?
- In the summer of 2000, Ingrid Rimland, my new wife, and
I visited the famous, much-visited Roswell, New Mexico UFO Museum. Many
will recall that a UFO allegedly crashed there in 1947 only two years after
World War II - with little "aliens" on board etc. etc. While
there, I bought a nicely produced hardcover book by U.S. Col. Philip J.
Corso, (Ret.), who worked deep within the Pentagon hierarchy on a secret
UFO Project in the 1950s-60s. On the dust jacket it says this: "...With
unprecedented detail, Corso divulges how he spearheaded the (U.S.) Army's
reverse engineering project that seeded Alien technology at American companies
such as IBM, Hughes Aircraft, Bell Labs and Dow Corning."
- We toured the museum for several hours and talked with
employees and tour guides there, and what do you know? Nicely protected
by glass I spotted some diaramas - life-like models reduced to scale: "Nazi
Saucers", Swastikas, Balkenkreuze, Luftwaffe insignias and all - being
refueled by tankers on the ground with Luftwaffe - and SS-uniformed and
armed German soldiers guarding the "Nazi UFO base." I thought
I could not trust my eyes!
- Allow me this thought as a German who has refused throughout
a lifetime to make myself a slave to the Pavlovian Reflex and kick a long-dead
Adolf Hitler in the shin:
- The Americans captured and shipped thousands of German
rocket, aircraft and other weapons specialists to the US immediately after
World War II to "seed" exactly the same projects that Col. Corso
described as their advanced weapons research. While in Roswell, Ingrid
and I also went to the American rocket pioneer Stoddard's workshop/museum
and looked at the tools and scientific gear displayed there - a shockingly
primitively equipped place, compared to what Wernher von Braun had had
to work with Hitler's test facilities at Peenemünde at the end of
World War II. On that hot summer afternoon I wondered to myself if what
had really crashed in Roswell might not have been one of the German Flying
Saucers, keeping an eye on what the competition was up to at Mr. Stoddard's
lab and test site - and that the "little green men" story was
a false road flare, planted by US authorities at the time!
- Why so? Would it not have been painfully embarrassing
to admit to the American and world public that "... here we were,
having clubbed the Germans to a pulp in massive bombing raids, monkeying
around at Mr. Stoddard's lab and other places with that outdated, old-fashioned,
glorified fire cracker rocketry the departing Hitler regime left behind,
along with Wernher von Braun - while a still-undefeated bunch of high-tech
Nazis are hot-rodding it around the globe and maybe even through the universe,
snugly ensconced in their never-captured, Antarctic based UFOs?"
- A man can speculate, can't he? After all, this is America,
isn't it? And red-blooded Americans don't fear - or do they? - that they
will faint or turn into some frogs if they discover that a real live "Nazi"
called Ernst Zundel - according to the ADL, the JDL, the Wiesenthalers
and other some such outfits that specialize in smears - turned out to be
a human being after all who has just given them a publicly little-known
piece of his mind.
- Much of the information on Antarctica and German UFOs
are in Ernst Zundel's various UFO books, some a bit tattered and grimy
after the 1995 arson of the renowned, world-famous Zundel-Haus in Toronto,
set ablaze by Germany's enemies 50 years to the day after Germany surrendered
to the Allies, May 8, 1945.
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