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- Jeff...
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- Ice today is the same as ice in the ancient past. A glacier
of ice SLIDES DOWNHILL.
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- "The geological glacial period theory includes a
range of great mountains in Labrador, Canada."
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- The quoted excerpt above and quotes below begin on P.
123 of Colonel James Churchward's brilliant 1935 Book Two of his "Cosmic
Forces of MU" trilogy. He died before writing book three. With undeniable
proofs, he easily - and humorously - punctured holes in many orthodox scientific
theories of his time - AND of today, especially the continuing Myth of
the Ice Cap.
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- Churchward asserted it was instead the - final- "Magnetic
Cataclym," a lurch of the direction of the north pole approximately
17,000 years ago, causing the oceans to spill in the opposite direction,
carrying mountains of loosened Polar ice and pieces of rock on their crests
southward over parts of the then MOUNTAINLESS plains of Western Europe,
Canada and the United States. A cataclysmic event lasting DAYS, not thousands
of years. For thousands of miles the roaring waves of water moving south,
transporting volumes of ice and rock, pulverized all trace of vegetation,
animals and men into a fertilizing pulp, settling into a vast sea of rich
mud from horizon to horizon. The ice and rocks (which became boulders)
carried by the waves scratched and planed the stationary rocks. Thousands
of years later, forming volcanic "gas belts," raised the surface
above them into mountain ranges and many of the deposited boulders from
the flood, were carried up with them where they are now found on the tops
of mountains.
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- (Churchward, P. 123): "According to geological theory,
these Labrador mountains were raised especially and expressly to give the
great glacier its first boost to send it ripping and tearing down over
the United States; as geologists say that the glacier could not have commenced
its slide without the aid of these mountains."
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- "The Labrador Mountains. however, unusual as it
may seem in mountains, had a conscience; for when they saw the horribly
mean trick they had played on a friendly neighbor, they became so thoroughly
ashamed of themselves that they sank back again into the body of the earth,
and so thoroughly effaced themselves that today not a trace or mark of
them remains to show that they ever existed."
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- The 60,000 feet high "Labrador Mountains" ...a
range twice as high as the Himalayas with an ice cap of 20,000 feet more
on top...
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- (P. 124) "...I made a calculation, which can be
checked off by any surveyor or engineer. Water will not drain off fast
at a fall of 1 to 25, ice to slide requires much more. Take the distance
from Labrador to the 40th degree South Latitude as the base of the triangle.
Now calculate the altitude necessary at the peak of the triangle for this
slide. I got to 60,000 feet and then stopped, yet I was not at the top
of these mountains."
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- "60,000 feet, however, was not the total height
of the Labrador Peaks, as there was at least a thickness of ice of at least
20,000 feet on top of them, so that the ultimate limit of the mountains,
plus ice, was over 15 miles, or about one third of the way through the
earth's atmosphere. Can any thing more grotesque, absurd, and impossible
be conceived?"
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- (P. 125) ".... Now let us glance at another absurdity.
To form an ice cap around the Northern Hemisphere down to the 40th Partallel,
of a thickness of 20,000 feet, would require more water than now exists
in the Arctic Ocean, North Atrlantic and North Pacific Oceans. Where did
the water come from? and where has it gone to since? The water which formed
the Northern Ice Cap could not have come from the South, because the South
Pole was imitating her northern sister by dressing herself also up in an
equally imposing ice cap. Between these two there was more water used in
forming these two lumps of ice than now exists on the face of the earth!
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- (P. 129) "THE OTHER SIDE OF THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE."
"In North Eastern Asia, Siberia especially, and prominently along
the Lena River Valley and watershed, are very distinct geological markings
showing that at the end of the Pliocene or beginning of the Pleistocene,
and at the very time when the supposed ice cap was covering all of the
Northern parts of the Northern Hemisphere, a great flood of water without
ice, coming from the south, rolled in a northerly direction over the great
plains of Manchuria, Mongolia and Siberia. The wave ended in the Arctic
Ocean."
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- (P. 130) "... incontrovertible evidences that when
the supposed ice cap was covering Europe and North America with tens of
thousands of feet of ice, in Northern Asia, on the same parallels of latitude
as the supposed ice cap, the climate was temperate and mild, with only
ordinary winter ice; for it is shown that at that time there was an abundance
of temperate climate vegetation, with myriads of temperate climate animal
life living upon it." "... this great Cataclysmic wave of water...
gathered up the great animal life which roamed the plains - ...to the Arctic
Ocean, and at the mouth of the River Lena deposited them in bulk. Their
bones and tusks now form LLAKOFF'S ISLAND..."
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- (P.131) "...Had there been ice accompanying the
Asiatic wave, the bodies and bones of all the animals would have been ground
to a pulp, as they were in Europe and North America, and then Llakoff's
Island would never have appeared upon the map."
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- Jeff,
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- I could go on and on with such excerpts but would prefer
you read Churchward's two scientific books (Cosmic Forces of MU) and judge
for yourself. His views on Earth's scientific past, geology and astronomy
are UNIQUE. And his proofs are solid. NOT ONE of today's crop of researchers
including Kaku, Moon, Sitchin, Hoagland appear to have ever read the two
Churchward "Cosmic Forces" books "mentioned above! I find
that incredible! In the 45 to 50 years since I first read them, I have
sifted all orthodox and unorthodox scientific "facts" that have
come to my attention through Churchward's material... and (with a very
few exceptions) have found Churchward's views MORE EVIDENTIALLY ACCURATE
than MANY of the accepted scientific beliefs of today!
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- For whatever it is worth, that is my opinion.
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- Dick Fojut <dfgraphics@gci-net.com
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- Dick Fojut Graphics 2622 E. 6th St./Tucson, AZ 85716
Tel-Fax 520-325-3802
- Comment
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- From Chris Fines finesey@hotmail.com
9-23-00
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- Hello Jeff,
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- I have been a long time reader of your page www.sightings.com
and I try to listen to your show when I get the opportunity. I have noticed
the headlines on your page and I have noted that many make substantial
claims, some are well written and backed up, others are not so, but everyone
is entitled to their opinion.
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- However, as a student of Environmental Sciences and of
Geology I have to say that I have never seen an article with such blatant
disrespect for reason and logic then the article entitled "The Scientific
Absurdity of the Mythical 'Ice Age'". Mr. Fojut makes some interesting
points regarding the validity of the ice age unfortunately there are major
mistakes in both his argument and his logic.
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- Firstly, he bases his entire argument on the research
of a single author which is in itself a scientific fallacy, as any thesis,
wether for or against the scientific establishment must be based on the
work of multiple researchers.
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- My next points have to do with the ice age itself. The
claim of Mr. Fojut is that a large 'wave' of debris and water swept across
the areas now believed to have been glaciated which caused the sedimentation
and land formations that we now believe to have been caused by a continental
ice sheet.
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- The first evidence that I have to offer revolves around
the phenomenon known as Isostatic rebounding which was incidentally discovered
after Colonel James Churchward wrote the book which attempts to defraud
the continental ice sheet theory. Isostatic rebounding is the observed
phenomenon of the Earth's crust rebounding upwards, sometimes at a rate
of up to 1cm a year in certain places which is the result of the crust
being compressed for a long period of time and then having the weight removed.
The crust, compressed into the magma of the Moho discontinuity (the area
between the mantle and the crust) is slowly rebounding upwards after the
tremendous weight of billions of tons of ice was removed during the pleistecine
era where the continental ice sheets retreated Northwards for the final
time in recorded history. This rebounding only occurs in areas that show
other glacial features (mostly in North America).
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- Secondly, I would like to point to the glacial feature
called the Roche Moutone (lamb rock). The Roche Moutone is a feature that
is formed when an ancient coral reef is turned into limestone through sedimentary
processes and is then exposed and weathered by a giant mass of slowly moving
ice. The Roche Moutone is slightly sloped on one side (the direction the
ice sheet is sliding from) and is rough on the other (which is where rock
was plucked by water flowing into the cracks surrounding the rock, frozen
and then a huge chunk of the rock is removed as the glacier moves.
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- On top of the Roche Moutone are hundreds of striations
where debris on the bottom of the ice sheet is dragged along the rock (all
in a single direction) and create deep grooves that could only have been
created by slow, heavy objects. Now you may argue that limestone itself
is a soft rock, however roche moutone-type landforms have been recorded
in Granite as well as Pyroxime and Feldspar, all very hard rocks (well
pyroxime and feldspar being minerals). Thirdly there is the landform known
as the esker, which is formed when huge ammounts of debris-laden water
makes its way through small tunnels below the glacier, these tunnels eventually
get clogged with sediments and fill up. After the glacier melts the esker
is exposed and many can be seen running for many miles throughout southern
Canada and the northern USA.
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- Finally, there are Drumlins, large, teardrop shaped hills
(which taper in the direction opposite to where the glaciers were flowing)
that populate southern Ontario, as well as upstate New York, Ohio, Montana,
Illinois, Michigan and many other places around the world. These drumlins
are formed along the same lines as Eskers. They form when a small cavern
opens up beneath a large ice sheet and the cavern fills with debris laden
water. The water drops its sediments (glacial till) as it plunges into
the cavern and a pile of debris builds up. The debris is then overrun by
the glacier which tapers it into a teardrop shape. These landforms cannot
be formed by any fluvial processes as proposed by Colonel James Churchward
and is only the result of large-scale ice sheet activity.
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- Mr Fojut points out that since the ice was 2000m thick
and the Labrador Mtn's 6000m high then the glacier would reach 1/3 of the
way into the atmospeher (by the way the atmosphere 'officially' ends at
the thermosphere which is 100km up). But the glaciers did NOT cover every
part of their areas equally, the ice may never have reached the top of
the Labrador mountains or if it did then they would be thin indeed. He
also makes the point that rocks are found on mountain tops far away from
where they should be, this is true.
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- These rocks, called Eratics are rocks plucked from under
the glacier and slowly moved until they reach the top, they are then set
down wherever the glacier melts, so a glacier that just makes it to the
top of a mountain, even though the ice would be thin, the ice would eventually
melt and deposit the rock. He also makes the point that there is not enough
water in the oceans to accomodate these massive ice sheets, and this is
both true and false.
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- The ice age happened in spurts, with glaciers coming
and going several times. Sometimes certain areas would be covered and sometimes
they would not be covered. So since the ice would not cover all of North
America at the same time, this can be accomodated (plus the oceans dropped
by 30-35% during the ice age). Now there are many points that are made
that I don't have the time to dispute here, but rest assured there is much
evidence to the contrary. But don't take my word for it, go to your local
University Library and take out several scientific journals on the topic
of continental ice sheets and look at the evidence yourself.
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- Still not convinced? Then go for a hike and spot the
eskers, drumlins and Roche Moutone's. There are hundreds of other glacial
features that I have not discussed here such as Basal Sediment Deformation
Straiations, or Terminal Moraines or Kettleholes, none of these landforms
can be created by fluvial processes (even the cataclysmic ones suggested
in the article) but can be created by slow-moving glaciers. These landforms
are all observed on a smaller scale in areas where Alpine glaciers (glaciers
on mountains, as opposed to ice sheets which covered the Northern Hemisphere
and still cover Greenland and Antarctica) and can therefore be attributed
to the long term actions of rivers of ice.
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- So please, I implore you, many of the articles on your
page talk about being kept ignorant by the scientific establishment.....but
don't be kept ignorant by articles that are posted on your site as well.....so
go out and look at all the evidence, not just mine or Mr Fojut's.
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- Best Regards -
Chris
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