SIGHTINGS



Vatican Admits On National
TV That ET Contact IS REAL
Richard Boylan, PhD
4-4-98

Note - Here is one of the actual Italian television appearances by Father
Balducci stating the Vatican's belief that ETs exist. His quotations are
in Italian. Click here
http://www.worldlink.it/nonsoloufo/baldui01.htm



UPDATE
Vatican and ET Story Said
A Hoax - Balducci Reaction Here


From Edoardo Russo
4-16-98

Hello!
 
The story has been widely circulating in the last two weeks, telling of "Vatican theologist" Corrado Balducci having been on Italian national TV as many as five times in the last few months in order to openly claim and admit that ET's exist, have souls and - most extraordinary of all - the Vatican knows it, studies them and collect data via a secret commission.
 
I have been asked to comment and have done so publicly, telling nothing of that sort ever happened, but: - Corrado Balducci is a known theologist but not a Vatican theologist, nor a spokesman for the Vatican; - though a frequent guest at TV programs on a variety of subjects, UFOs and ET's included, his own personal opinions about the matter have been spread over several years, and there's nothing new now.
 
Some of the people originally diffusing the story, notably Richard Boylan, chose to attack me personally for having said so, and challenged my claims.
 
The most simple and logical thing to do was to ask directly Corrado Balducci. This I did yesterday, Thursday 15 April, in a very long (40 minutes) phone call.
 
He was at first surprised, then amused, at learning of the story as it is circulating on the Internet. He asked me to collect and send him copy of it all, for his own files, and offered me his answers as of the many questions I asked him.
 
Here is a synopsis, in order to close and settle the matter once and for all.
 
1) He is no Vatican theologist
 
Corrado Balducci explained me in detail that he is just one of the thousands theologists in Italy (most younger Catholic priests have got a degree in theology) and no special one. He is not working at the Vatican and is retired now.
 
Moreover, no such thing as a "Vatican theologist" does exist: the nearest thing would be the "theologist for the Holy Father" (an elderly archbishop theologist acting as a consultant to the Pope).
 
 
2) He is not a member of any Vatican commission on ET contacts, which does not exist
 
He laughed a lot about the notion itself of a secret Vatican commission on ET contacts, which he told me he felt sure was non-existent, even if he is not working at the Vatican (but he's got many many friends an colleagues therein and he told me he would have known).
 
He authorized me to formally deny, in his own name, that either he has ever been member of such commission or that he ever heard of it.
 
As of the rumour that Vatican Embassies would collect ET contacts data and pass it on to the Vatican, he told me they have better and more important things to do, and nothing of that sort is even remotely believable.
 
 
3) He is not studying UFOs or ET contacts
 
He insisted he is specialized just in demonology, and his present concerns are about New Age beliefs and new religions. UFOs and ET's are not his own subject, he never wrote or presented the Vatican any document on that subject ("not even two lines").
 
His own present opinion as of UFOs is that we must trust testimonies, hence we cannot deny something is being seen.
 
His own present opinion as of ET intelligent beings is that, IF THEY EXIST and IF WE EVER MAKE CONTACT with them, they MIGHT well be beings superior to us as of spirituality. IF THAT IS TRUE, a contact might even be desirable for us.
 
 
4) He has not been speaking about UFO/ET on TV so frequently as claimed
 
He does not recall having been a TV guest on the UFO/ET subject as many as five times in a few months, though he has probably be in a few years.
 
 
5) He never spoke in the name of the Vatican
 
All that he has been saying about UFOs or ET beings, on TV or elsewhere, has always been his own personal opinion or even some wild hypotheses based upon logic and his own feelings. He does not feel either qualified or authorized to speak on behalf of the Vatican, which would do so in much more formal ways. Nor did he express official or unofficial opinions of the Vatican hierarchy.
 
 
6) He never released any interview to "Nonsiamosoli"
 
He was flabbergasted at learning a whole series of out-of-context quotations of his have been sold as an "interview" in Giorgio Bongiovanni's "Nonsiamosoli" bulletin and website, since he has always had a very bad opinion about Bongiovanni and his group and even confronted him on TV (ironically: in one of those emissions quoted by the ongoing story!) and told publically he did not believe Bongiovanni's stygmates came from God.
 
But he remembers having released a TV interview to Michael Hesemann, last year, and telling the same opinions of his, reported above. He wondered if that might be the original source, though largely deformated in the subsequently circulated story.
 
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A lot of comments might be added about the above points, but I feel it safe not to add anything to the naked, first-hand statements of the elderly clergyman himself.
 
Paranoids will surely go on alleging some dark cover-up, and we'll leave 'em to their fantasies.
 
What remains is the fact that the story of the official Vatican statements on the ET's, as circulated on the Internet, was definitely a hoax.
 
Another fact is that the real truth was not found by those rumour-mongers eager to promote just every wild story without boring to check their sources, but by serious-minded ufologists.
 
Please feel free to quote, post, distribute the above where you like.
 
Edoardo Russo Centro Italiano Studi Ufologici CISU, Casella postale 82, 10100 Torino tel 011-3290279 - fax 011-545033 http://www.arpnet.it/~ufo e-mail: edoardo.russo@torino.alpcom.it
 
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Response To Dr. Richard Boylan's Statement
 
4-16-98
 
Hello!
 
Thanks for forwarding me Richard Boylan's posting answering my own comments on the subject above.
 
I found it odd that Boylan did not care to send it to me, since he apparently knew of my e-mail address, but maybe courtesy rules are different in your country, so I won't feel obliged to send him the following reply of mine. Please feel free to do so yourself, if you feel it appropriate, as well as to post or re-post it where you like to.
 
> So what we have here is "Doc-in-Phoenix" violating his ban on >IUFO to post a slam by a debunker Italian "Ufologist" Edoardo Russo
 
I've been called worse names in the past, but I'm still wondering what Boylan may mean by "debunker" and how he can feel entitled to call me such, since he also acknowledged to have never heard of me before.
 
>post a slam by a debunker Italian "Ufologist" Edoardo Russo against >another Ufologist, Giorgio Bongiovanni, whom Russo apparently feels >is a rival.
 
Oh dear! Never in my life did I even remotely thought of Giorgio Bongiovanni as a "ufologist" and even less a "rival". When I was 16, Italian pioneer ufologist Gianni Settimo made it clear to me that contactees are not ufologists. His exact words were that between us (ufologists) and them (contactees) there is the same difference as between the student of the Napoleon times and the guy who says "I'm Napoleon". (To put it more gently, since they are the phenomenon to be studied, they can't pose as researchers at the same time.) But maybe Boylan has not yet figured out which category he belongs to.
 
>I've never heard of Russo. Bongiovanni is famous, and has lectured in >the United States at the International UFO Congress several times.
 
 
Yes, Bongiovanni is famous. But Billi Meier is, too, and George Adamski was yet more famous. So what? Fame is not synonimous with reliability.
 
As far as myself, I will resist to the obvious joke that me too, I never heard of Boylan before (and still have managed to live well). I don't either expect him to frequent the same UFO circles or read/write in the same UFO literature as I've been doing in the last 25 years, but my first article in the "Flying Saucer Review" was published in 1979, and that same year I remember having presented a paper at the First International UFO Congress held by BUFORA in London and being appointed Italian delegate of the International Committee on UFO Research (whose directors included J. Allen Hynek and Walt Andrus). If Boylan ever happened to glance over the "MUFON UFO Journal" (I've been MUFON Italian representative, too) and the "International UFO Reporter" (not to pretend he ever heard of European UFO journals), he might have found articles of mine therein, too. More details he will find in Robert Boyd's "Who's who in Ufology Directory" (1988).
 
 
> Mr. Russo's disrespectful attempt to turn Monsignor Balducci >into "Mr." Balducci is a familiar old disdainful trick used by >debunkers.
 
Shades of paranoia? Since when "Mr." is a sign of direspect or disdain, instead of an acronym for either "Mister" or "Monsignor"? Mmmh! Maybe I should suspect something, given "Mr." Boylan's insistance at calling me "Mr. Russo" instead of the more proper "Dr. Russo" he should use, shouldn't I?
 
> Mr. Russo's denial does not make Monsignor Balducci any less >a Vatican theologian. Mr. Russo's denial does not stop Monsignor >Balducci from continuing his membership on the Vatican commission >studying extraterrestrial contacts.
 
Indeed he is neither, by his own admission. More about this later.
 
>Mr. Russo apparently lives up in Turin.
 
That's the only "apparently" correct comment about me in Boylan's posting!
 
>My informant, the ACCET clinician interviewed Monsignor Balducci in >Rome.
 
May I respectfully inform you, who live beyond the Big Pond, that such an odd device as the telephone was invented by an Italian? Do you really believe that 600 kilometers away means so great a distance as to prevent me from Turin to talk with Corrado Balducci in Rome?
 
 
> Mr. Russo's denial does not make him an expert on Vatican matters,
 
I never claimed to be one: and before stating what I did I did check and get information from competent people (theologians). Did Boylan ever try to?
 
 
>So Mr. Russo DOES acknowledge two of the five times that >Monsignor Balducci has spoken about extraterrestrials on Italian >television.
 
Not quite so: I did give two precise dates (wasn't I the first to do that?), but I had no need to "acknowledge" them, since I never denied it. Indeed I also know of some more occasions, if you extend the time span to the last ten years or so...
 
> Mr. Russo betrays his debunker hand here, labeling anyone who sees >extraterrestrials as having souls a "spiritualist",
 
True: but maybe the language difference betrayed me: in Italian "spiritualist" means precisely the attitude of those seeing a spirit or soul in living beings (as opposed to "materialist"); in English that meaning has only remained in the technical jargon of philosophy, while the popular meaning of "spiritualism" has become a synonimous of "spiritism", which is quite another matter, not relevant here.
 
>and labeling ufo >investigators who believe extraterrestrials have souls as "cultists".
 
Seems Mr Boylan's got some unresolved confusion in his mind as of the difference between "UFO investigator" and "ET believer". Anyway he doen't need to make me say what I did not: not every believer is a cultist, though the contrary is true (never took courses in formal logic).
 
> Gee, I thought we had enough debunkers on U.S. UFO newsgroups >that we didn't need to import another one from Turin.
 
Gee, I think we had enough true believers and fanatics in Italian ET buff groups that we don't need to import another one from California.
 
Out of the "ad hominem" rhetoric, why wouldn't he expect that Italian ufologists might be the better placed ones to check the story?
 
> Mr. Russo is in error. I never said that Monsignor Balducci's >declarations were all recent. Indeed, I pointed out that he has made >the declarations of extraterrestrial contact reality on Italian >television five times, obviously over a period of time.
 
Mr Boylan is in error (or should I say he has been forced to acknowledge it was not recent?). I was not commenting what he might have said or written (I didn't even know 'twas him the source of the false news). I was asked to comment a news release which said exactly that Balducci "has gone on national Italian television five times in recent months to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon".
 
>What is recent is the ACCET clinician's interview with Monsignor > >Balducci in Rome
 
Might we learn the name of that clinician, the date of her interview with Balducci and a tape recording of it? Mr Balducci asked me to get more details on that matter.
 
> Mr. Russo has it wrong again. I did not say Monsignor >Balducci talked about UFOs; he talked about extraterrestrials as >CERTAINLY real, and that they POSITIVELY have souls, NOT "possibly".
 
If so, Mr Boylan was in error, exactly as of those all-capital words: certainly and positively, as we'll see.
 
> As usual, the debunkers have problems with the facts, because >they don't want to hear the facts.
 
As usual, the true believers have problems with the facts, because they don't want to hear the facts.
 
The real difference between them and real researchers (whom they prefer to call "debunkers", for some reason) is that believers don't feel any need to check data and information, since they already KNOW (well, they think they know) the Truth.
 
While Mr Boylan chose to belong to the first group, I feel honored to be part of those not having a belief to defend, so I DID check that unfounded rumour and traced it back to its primary source: Mr Corrado Balducci.
 
Unfortunately for Richard Boylan and the other rumour-mongers, Balducci DID deny all that was attributed to him and confirmed all I stated. For sake of order and logic, the details of his formal denial are contained in a separate message of mine, more properly titled: "The Vatican and ETs: it WAS a hoax".
 
"Don't care about them but look and pass over", said the Poet. But I am not a poet, I am a researcher. And I believe we should never let false claims circulated, if we want ufology to be a scientific-oriented field of study, instead of the mess some well-identified characters have made it to become.
 
Regards,
 
Edoardo Russo
Centro Italiano Studi Ufologici
CISU, Casella postale 82, 10100 Torino
tel 011-3290279 - fax 011-545033
http://www.arpnet.it/~ufo
e-mail: edoardo.russo@torino.alpcom.it


Reply To Edoardo Russo

From Richard Boylan, Ph.D. 4-17-98
 
Edoardo Russo quotes "" The story has been widely circulating in the last two weeks, telling of "Vatican theologist" Corrado Balducci having been on Italian national TV as many as five times in the last few months in order to openly claim and admit that ET's exist, have souls and - most extraordinary of all - the Vatican knows it, studies them and collect data via a secret commission. I have been asked to comment and have done so publicly, telling nothing of that sort ever happened, but: - Corrado Balducci is a known theologist but not a Vatican theologist, nor a spokesman for the Vatican;
 
Debunker Russo has been contacted by the American debunker community, and, as expected, has attacked the report on Monsignor Balducci's statements that the Church acknowledges extraterrestrial life, and that it is not demonic nor a case of possession, nor an artifact of psychological aberration.. I stand by my sources, whose credibility is extremely high. And noted author Whitley Strieber's concurring public posting is very welcome.
 
1) He is no Vatican theologist Corrado Balducci explained me in detail that he is just one of the thousands theologists in Italy
 
Monsignor Balducci's humility is touching. But signore Russo's ignorance of the inner political workings of the Church poorly equips him to conduct such an inquiry. Further, his debunker attitude would clearly evoke a most guarded reaction from a wise and loyal cleric like Monsignor Balducci.
 
Moreover, no such thing as a "Vatican theologist" does exist:
 
A theologian who serves on a quiet Vatican commission can certainly be identified as a Vatican theologian.
 
- though a frequent guest at TV programs on a variety of subjects, UFOs and ET's included, his own personal opinions about the matter have been spread over several years, and there's nothing new now.
 
Here signore Russo admits what was in my report, that Monsignor Balducci has five times over the last several years presented on Italian television the fact of extraterrestrials, and that Catholic teaching is that they have souls, and are not demons, etc.
 
2) He is not a member of any Vatican commission on ET contacts, which does not exist
 
On the contrary, Monsignor Balducci spoke to the clinician, my informant, about serving on such a commission. Evidently it is a most delicate commission, and the Monsignor did not feel he could discuss it with someone pursuing controversy like signore Russo.
 
As of the rumour that Vatican Embassies would collect ET contacts data and pass it on to the Vatican, he told me they have better and more important things to do, and nothing of that sort is even remotely believable.
 
Monsignor Balducci's response about the Papal Nunciatures (embassies) having other things to report to the Vatican is certainly true, and a carefully-worded reply. The rest of what Russo attributes to the Monsignor displays either misunderstanding the delicacy of the matters Russo was intruding into, or Russo's naivete, or wishing to hear what Russo wanted to hear. The Vatican, which is in quiet communication with other major world powers about the extraterrestrial presence, would hardly consider extraterrestrial contact "unimportant", as Russo would have us believe.
 
He insisted he is specialized just in demonology, and his present concerns are about New Age beliefs and new religions. UFOs and ET's are not his own subject, he never wrote or presented the Vatican any document on that subject
 
No one said that Monsignor Balducci wrote and presented a 'document' to the Vatican. Thus Russo's disclaimer is pointless, and demonstrates his desperation to discredit this report.
 
His own present opinion as of UFOs is that we must trust testimonies, hence we cannot deny something is being seen.
 
In other words, signore Russo admits that Monsignor Balducci hasdeclared that UFOs and extraterrestrial contacts are real.
 
His own present opinion as of ET intelligent beings is that, IF THEY EXIST and IF WE EVER MAKE CONTACT with them, they MIGHT well be beings superior to us as of spirituality. IF THAT IS TRUE, a contact might even be desirable for us.
 
Signore Russo claims to be quoting Monsignor Balducci, (for which Russo presents no evidence.) It is clear that the Monsignor was expressing himself in a most guarded fashion around the debunker, for the Monsignor has openly declared on Italian television that extraterrestrials are a certainty.
 
Nor did he [Balducci] express official or unofficial opinions of the Vatican hierarchy.
 
Monsignor Balducci declared on Italian television that the Church's teaching is that extraterrestrials are certain, have souls, are not demons, and are likely to be more advanced spiritually. In so proclaiming, Monsignor Balducci quoted the core theologian authority of the Church, Saint Thomas Acquinas. Anyone who studies Vatican behavior knows that if Monsignor Balducci was speaking against what the Church wants its followers to believe, he would have been silenced faster than you can say Hans Kung. Debunker Russo misses the point of the trial balloon the Church is sending up by allowing Monsignor Balducci to make benign declarations and affirmations about extraterrestrials and extraterrestrial contact as teachings of the Church. Given the powerful, internationally-driven UFO Cover-Up, the Vatican is neither able nor willing to take an 'international' stance about its activity vis-a-vis extraterrestrial research at this early juncture in the process of world powers gradually conditioning their populations to the fact of extraterrestrial contact. If signore Russo is holding out for Pope John Paul announcing as an infallible doctrine, televised on CNN for all the world to hear, that extraterrestrials have made contact, he shall have to wait a while.
 
But he remembers having released a TV interview to Michael Hesemann, last year, and telling the same opinions of his, reported above. He wondered if that might be the original source, though largely deformated
 
My sources are independent of Michael Hesemann's interview with Monsignor Balducci, but Mr. Hesemann's corroborative report is welcome. I stick by my sources. My central informant noted that this whole matter was quite delicate, and that it remained to be seen just how on-the-record Monsignor Balducci could be, once this report got to an international audience and created controversy. Her prediction was quite accurate, it turns out. Naturally, the UFO Cover-Up is very disturbed that even a territorially-limited and "trial balloon" declaration by as significant an authority as the Catholic Church could get out. But it has.
 
Richard Boylan, Ph.D.



Note - The following is a letter from Whitley Strieber regarding Msgr.
Balducci::
 
 
Msgr. Balducci is entirely real, and much of what he has been saying about the visitors is accurately presented in Boylan's statement. In addition, I understand that he has been doing a good deal of television recently. I know the Monsignor through Michael Hesseman and have talked to him personally about his views. He has given me an interview that is going to be published in my new book Confirmation, and in it he makes substantially the same statements about the need to stop fooling ourselves that the contact situation is psychological, and he makes the point that it is dangerous for Christians to ignore the testimony of millions if they are to accept the testimony of just a few as the basis of doctrine. He also discusses his contention that the visitors are not demons, and mentions that the subject matter is of special interest to the Church and the Christian community.
 
Msgr. Balducci told me personally when I asked him about his relationship to the pope that he knows the pope and is friendly with him. When I asked him if the pope was aware of his views on UFOs, he said that they had not discussed the matter per se, but had talked together about issues of demonology.
 
Boylan is also accurate in describing Msgr. Balducci as an expert on demonology. He has published on the subject and has been the exorcist for the Archdiocese of Rome. It is because of his expertise in this field that there is reason for Christians to regard his views on the question of whether or not the visitors are demons as an authoritative one.
 
In the interview I have, he did not mention anything about Papal nuncios reporting information to the Vatican on a formal basis, or the existence of a commission to deal with the issue.
 
He has personally read and agreed to every detail of the translation, and it is completely accurate. It will be published as an appendix to Confirmation, which should be in the stores by April 15.
 
In the interest of accuracy, I would very much appreciate your reposting of this letter to the same list that has received the previous two posts.
 
Sincerely yours,
 
Whitley Strieber



Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a Vatican theologian insider close to the Pope has gone on national Italian television five times in recent months to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. The prelate announced that the Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nuncios (embassies) in various countries, such as Mexico, Chile and Venezuela. Monsignor Balducci said that he is on a Vatican commission looking into extraterrestrial encounters, and how to cope with the emerging general realization of extraterrestrial contact.

Balducci provided the Catholic Church's analysis of extraterrestrials, emphasizing that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due to psychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a Vatican expert exorcist, and since the Catholic Church has historically
demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, his proclaiming the Vatican's non-censure of these encounters is all the more remarkable. Balducci revealed to a visiting American clinical professional from the Academy of Clinical Close Encounter Therapists, that the Vatican is closely following this phenomenon.

Parallel information from MJ-12 scientist Dr. Michael Wolf suggests that the Vatican is concerned that it will have a major doctrinal updating situation on its hands when extraterrestrial contact becomes authoritatively announced by world governments over the next several years.
 
Forwarded by Richard Boylan,
Ph.D.
 
 
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English Translation of Father Balducci's Remarks
 
Note - Our thanks to Victor Viggiani <zland@globalserve.net for this updated translation sent to us 4-25-98.
 
Sunday, October 8, 1995 -RAII Special Broadcast of TG1
 
Bruno Mobrici: Father Balducci, well then, how would you respond to those who maintain that aliens are already among us?
 
Padre Balducci: One can no longer think it's true, it's not true, they are real or they are falsehoods, one believes or doesn't believe, no! By now there are various considerations which make us say with certainty that the existence of these beings is (real). One cannot doubt this. Perhaps one could say that on a hundred phenomena (cases) (of this kind) there will be ... even if one were to say 99 false ones and one true one, there is that one that says that certain phenomena exist. Therefore, this is the first problem (dilemma) , doesn't enter into the area of human prudence (consideration)- to doubt- because prudence dictates that one is careful not to deny.
 
Bruno Morbrici: With what consequences in the context of religion and of philosophy...
 
Padre Balducci: There aren't any ... there isn't any negative consequence, everything is included, (contemplated) surely the Lord hasn't revealed everything to us, and therefore one can think rightly even (as it applies) to human redemption, Christ always remains the centre of the universe, but in the universe there are ... there is everything ... which ... not only the world, but also thousands of stars, thousands of galaxies and there are ... I don't want to at this time state numbers, but undoubtedly one can think and reasonably at this point ... and we enter (discussion) here in the second question; how does one explain the existence of other worlds which are inhabited, in what ways are they inhabited, by whom are they inhabited? You see ... there is an old saying: "Natura non facit saltus." Nature does not make leaps - that is to say - there is the natural (vegetable/plant life) realm, the animal realm, the human realm, the angelic realm, the only ones - four realms that we know. Three are natural and we seen them. Between the human, human being and the angel, there is a fairly big leap to make. Here because already with this convenient argument (illustration/example) that is shown well by Saint Thomas Aquinas, one of the greatest theologians, it is possible, probable more than anything, that between man, who already has a spirit in himself, a poor spirit, he (man) is subject to matter in an incredible way (extent) - it is enough to know that at night one feels the need to go to bed, while the soul doesn't need to sleep. Even a small illness can be so debilitating (confining), and the angel which is pure spirit - it is (therefore) probable that there are other beings which have a soul let us say, which is less attached, less subject to the body and the soul of this type, it's obvious can accomplish (is capable of) more advanced things than we, even taking into account so many advances in the last decades, that we are still unable to accomplish/understand.
 
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A film made for RAI-TV with the questions of journalist Bruno Mobrici and the answers of Father BALDUCCI 2,674Mb zip (2,853Mb mpg) -- Go to: http://www.worldlink.it/nonsoloufo/baldui01.htm Since we get so many visitors, please download during the nighttime hours when Internet traffic is lighter. See the RAI-TV production first released: Sunday October 8, 1995: RAI -TV 1 Transmission " Special Tg1 "




Note - Since this story broke, we have been continually seeking to substantiate the information and source material. As part of that effort, we contacted UFO Researcher Edoardo Russo in Italy for his analysis. His response follows...
 
 
From Edoardo Russo <edoardo.russo@torino.ALPcom.it 4-8-98
 
Hello Jeff!
 
1) Monsignor Corrado Balducci is NOT a Vatican theologist (that is he is not one of those belonging to any congregation), though is is a theologist and at the same time a priest.
 
2) As any other theologist (be they priests or not) he can claim whatever personal opinion he may have, though controversial, on any subject, but that is NOT the Vatican's opinion in any sense. Moreover, he has sometime expressed controversial and unorthodox opinions (eg. about subliminal messages in rock lyrics).
 
3) Corrado Balducci is a frequent guest on TV programs on a wide variety of subjects, and he has also talked about UFOs in more than one occasion. In particular, he was interviewed on a "Special TG1" at national TV first channel (Raiuno) about UFOs on August 16, 1997, and he offered his opinion that something must be true, given the many witnesses, and that such alien beings could well be superior to man, though inferior to angels, should have both body and soul, but that he hoped they were less body-conditioned, thus helping us to respect those universal values God put into all intelligent beings. Similar opinions he had already told in a previous TV debate he also took part on October 7, 1995. (I've got a videorecording of both TV emissions in CISU files.)
 
4) Such spiritualist viewpoints are shared by the most vociferous UFO cultists here in Italy, grouped around contactee/BVM visionnaire/stigmatized Giorgio Bongiovanni's "Nonsiamosoli" movement and journal. Thus "Nonsiamosoli" chose to publish an interview with Corrado Balducci in a recent issue and also reported his various TV statements. The same texts were put on the Internet in that group's homepage (www.worldlink.it/nonsiamosoli), which was recently renamed www.worldlink.it/nonsoloufo when the webmaster divorced from the increasingly commercial-minded activities of "Nonsiamosoli".
 
That was the source for the recently circulated news item, which was: - exaggerate as of scope (not the Vatican but a single theologist); - wrong as of times (it's not such a recent development, but a series of more than two years interviews); - wrong as of contents (it's not concerning an acceptance of alien UFOs, but an opinion on the possible spirituality of aliens).
 
I hope that this may settle the matter.
 
Regards
 
 
Edoardo Russo
Centro Italiano Studi Ufologici
CISU, Casella postale 82, 10100 Torino
tel 011-3290279 - fax 011-545033
http://www.arpnet.it/~ufo
e-mail: edoardo.russo@torino.alpcom.it




Dr. Richard Boylan, PhD took great exception to Mr. Russo's remarks on 4-8-98:

Edoardo Russo: 1) Monsignor Corrado Balducci is NOT a Vatican theologist (that is he is not one of those belonging to any congregation), though he is a theologist and at the same time a priest.
 
Richard Boylan: Mr. Russo's disrespectful attempt to turn Monsignor Balducci into "Mr." Balducci is a familiar old disdainful trick used by debunkers. Mr. Russo's denial does not make Monsignor Balducci any less a Vatican theologian. Mr. Russo's denial does not stop Monsignor Balducci from continuing his membership on the Vatican commission studying extraterrestrial contacts. Mr. Russo apparently lives up in Turin. My informant, the ACCET clinician interviewed Monsignor Balducci in Rome.
 
 
Russo: 2) As any other theologist (be they priests or not) he can claim
 
whatever personal opinion he may have, though controversial, on any subject, but that is NOT the Vatican's opinion in any sense.
 
RB: Mr. Russo's denial does not make him an expert on Vatican matters, nor does it stop Monsignor Balducci's being a member of a Vatican commission.
 
 
 
Russo: 3) Corrado Balducci is a frequent guest on TV programs on a wide
 
variety of subjects, and he has also talked about UFOs in more than one occasion. In particular, he was interviewed on a "Special TG1" at national TV first channel (Raiuno) about UFOs on August 16, 1997, and he offered his opinion that something must be true, given the many witnesses, and that such alien beings could well be superior to man, though inferior to angels, should have both body and soul, but that he hoped they were less body-conditioned, thus helping us to respect those universal values God put into all intelligent beings. Similar opinions he had already told in a previous TV debate he also took part on October 7, 1995. (I've got a videorecording of both TV emissions
 
RB: So Mr. Russo DOES acknowledge two of the five times that Monsignor Balducci has spoken about extraterrestrials on Italian television.
 
 
Russo: 4) Such spiritualist viewpoints are shared by the most vociferous
 
UFO cultists here in Italy, grouped around contactee/BVM
 
 
RB: Mr. Russo betrays his debunker hand here, labeling anyone who sees extraterrestrials as having souls a "spiritualist", and labeling ufo investigators who believe extraterrestrials have souls as "cultists". Gee, I thought we had enough debunkers on U.S. UFO newsgroups that we didn't need to import another one from Turin.
 
 
Russo: - wrong as of times (it's not such a recent development, but a
 
series of more than two years interviews);
 
RB: Mr. Russo is in error. I never said that Monsignor Balducci's declarations were all recent. Indeed, I pointed out that he has made the declarations of extraterrestrial contact reality on Italian television five times, obviously over a period of time. What is recent is the ACCET clinician's interview with Monsignor Balducci in Rome, where she got the update that a Vatican commission Monsignor Balducci is on is studying extraterrestrial encounters as a reality, not as a psychological aberration, not as demonic, and not as spirit possession.
 
 
Russo: - wrong as of contents (it's not concerning an acceptance of alien
 
UFOs, but an opinion on the possible spirituality of aliens).
 
RB: Mr. Russo has it wrong again. I did not say Monsignor Balducci talked about UFOs; he talked about extraterrestrials as CERTAINLY real, and that they POSITIVELY have souls, NOT "possibly".
 
As usual, the debunkers have problems with the facts, because they don't want to hear the facts.
 
 
 
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