- Overlooked Language In NDAA
(HR 1540 & S 1867)
By Devvy
12-26-11
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 The Internet has been literally burning
up over the National Defense Authorization Act. Another monstrous bill
with language that has produced headlines like: "Obama is going to
ship Americans to Gitmo!!!" And, "Americans will be detained
indefinitely in secret without due process!!!!" There is this dire
prediction:
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- Storing 7 Days of Food Could Send You to Gitmo Indefinitely
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- "The real danger lies in the government's definition
of what a suspected terrorist is.
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- "According to Sen Rand Paul (R-KY): "We're
talking about American citizens who can be taken from the United States
and sent to a camp at Guantanamo Bay and held indefinitely. There are laws
on the books right now that characterize who might be a terrorist: someone
missing fingers on their hands is a suspect, according to the Department
of Justice. Someone who has guns, someone who has ammunition that is weatherproofed,
someone who has more than seven days of food in their house can be considered
a potential terrorist. If you are suspected because of these activities,
do you want the government to have the ability to send you to Guantanamo
Bay for indefinite detention?"
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- "Paul says this is why he and twelve other senators
voted against the bill, because they saw the dangerous implications of
this provision which was designed to give the military certain powers during
the current conflict with al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations."
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- Not that the gangster administration under the usurper
(Obama/Soetoro/Dunham) wouldn't like to try something like that, but please
remember Obama/Soetoro does not occupy the White House as he was never
eligible to run for president; no one had the "right" to vote
for him. Anyone charged under any bill he has signed into law has the full
right to go after Obama. As a usurper, Barry has never had a shred of authority
to sign any legislation into law.[1]
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- As for the Department of Justice, the Outlaws in the
Congress have the clear authority to impeach Holder today and immediately
pass legislation to stop any attempt to round up Americans. With enough
votes they can override a veto by the fraud in the White House. They also
have the power to pass legislation immediately which nullifies any definitions
of a "suspected terrorist" put forth by the corrupt DOJ. Does
anyone get constitutional militia yet?
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- Moving on. The two objectionable sections are: 1031 and
1032 in the Senate bill. Like so many others, I read those sections. There
is a great deal of references to the Law of War. These united States of
America are not at war with anyone. The last legal war was declared constitutionally
by the U.S. Congress on Dec. 11, 1941. Since then, other names have been
used to justify ignoring the U.S. Constituion: the Korean Conflict, Viet
Nam Era. The illegal, grotesque invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and
other "hot spots" are referred to as "overseas contingency
operations". Tragically, the American people have sat on their backsides
cheering on the slaughter and carnage.
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- Here is one article about the Senate bill:
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- Senate Passes Controversial Defense Bill
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- "According to Firedoglake.com, sections 1031 and
1032 of the NDAA will:
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- 1) Explicitly authorize the federal government to indefinitely
imprison without charge or trial American citizens and others picked up
inside and outside the United States;
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- (2) Mandate military detention of some civilians who
would otherwise be outside of military control, including civilians picked
up within the United States itself; and
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- (3) Transfer to the Department of Defense core prosecutorial,
investigative, law enforcement, penal, and custodial authority and responsibility
now held by the Department of Justice.
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- "AddictingInfo.org adds:
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- A provision of S. 1867, or the National Defense Authorization
Act bill, written by Senators John McCain and Carl Levin, declares American
soil a battlefield and allows the President and all future Chief Executives
to order the military to arrest and detain American citizens, innocent
or not, without charge or trial. In other words, if this bill passes and
the President signs it, OWS protesters or any American could end up arrested
and indefinitely locked up by the military without the guaranteed right
to due process or a speedy trial."
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- Okay. Let's go look at the explicit language authorizing
the federal government to "indefinitely imprison without charge or
trial American citizens and others picked up inside and outside the United
States;"
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- This is the language of the final Enrolled
House bill - page 273:
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- SEC. 1031. COUNTERTERRORISM OPERATIONAL BRIEFING REQUIREMENT.
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- (a) BRIEFINGS REQUIRED.-Beginning not later than March
1, 2012, the Secretary of Defense shall provide to the congressional defense
committees quarterly briefings outlining Department of Defense counterterrorism
operations and related activities involving
- special operations forces.
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- (b) ELEMENTS.-Each briefing under subsection (a) shall
include each of the following:
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- (1) A global update on activity within each geographic
combatant command.
- (2) An overview of authorities and legal issues including
limitations.
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- Onto page 274:
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- (3) An outline of interagency activities and initiatives.
- (4) Any other matters the Secretary considers appropriate.
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- Do you read anywhere in that section that authorizes
the federal government to indefinitely imprison anyone, etc? I don't.
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- How about Section 1031 in the final Enrolled Senate bill? Go
to page 426:
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- Subtitle D-Detainee Matters
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- SEC. 1031. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES
OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION
FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE.
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- The applicable language begins on page 428:
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- (e) AUTHORITIES.-Nothing in this section shall be construed
to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United
States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other
persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.
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- I don't read anywhere in that sentence which explicitly
states Americans will be rounded up without due process under the Bill
of Rights. Do you?
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- A small number of outlaws in the Congress sent a letter objecting
to language in the bill:
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- "Both the ACLU and Human Rights Watch point out
that the final version does nothing to protect American citizens against
indefinite detention.
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- "The sponsors of the bill monkeyed around with a
few minor details, but all of the core dangers remain - the bill authorizes
the president to order the military to indefinitely imprison without charge
or trial American citizens and others found far from any battlefield, even
in the United States itself," said the ACLU's Chris Anders.
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- "The latest version of the defense authorization
bill does nothing to address the bill's core problems - legislated indefinite
detention without charge and the militarization of law enforcement,"
concurred HRW's Andrea Prasow.
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- "Proponent of the legislation Senator Lindsay Graham
ironically summed up the nightmare scenario the bill will codify into law
- the complete evisceration of all Constitutional protections for U.S.
citizens.
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- "It is not unfair to make an American citizen account
for the fact that they decided to help Al Qaeda to kill us all and hold
them as long as it takes to find intelligence about what may be coming
next," remarked Graham. "And when they say, 'I want my lawyer,'
you tell them, 'Shut up. You don't get a lawyer.'"
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- Those of us who follow the outlaws out in DC know Lindsay
Graham is about as close to sewer waste as you can get. However, I don't
seem to be able to find the text in either the final enrolled House or
Senate bills that explicitly says U.S. citizens will be indefinitely detained
without charge.
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- Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I have been reading bills
from both the state houses and Congress going on two decades. In both bills
(House & Senate), I found language that is plain and specific regarding
U.S. citizens. In the original bill (S. 1867) here
is the section on page 361 which deals with detainees and U.S. citizens:
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- SEC. 1032. REQUIREMENT FOR MILITARY CUSTODY continues
over to page 362:
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- (b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL
RESIDENT ALIENS.
- (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS. The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens
of the United States.
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- Unless I'm missing something, that subprovision says
detention by military does not apply to U.S. citizens. Words have meaning
in the law and that sentence appears to be easily read. That
language remains in the final bill (Enrolled):
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- Again, page 428 begins section 1032, but here is page
430:
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- (b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL
RESIDENT ALIENS.-
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- 10 (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.-The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens
of the United States.
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- Now over to the House. The full text of the bill passed
by the House (Enrolled Bill):
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- H.R.1540 - National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year
2012
- Page 265:
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- SEC. 1021. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES
OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION
FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE.
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- (e) AUTHORITIES.-Nothing in this section shall be construed
to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United
States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other
persons who are captured or arrested in the United
- States.
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- At this link is the Congressional Record for December
12, 2011, beginning on page H8356; the day after the final vote on House
bill 1540. Scroll down to page 81 (H8436) on your screen and see this under
Sec. 1022:
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- SEC. 1022. MILITARY CUSTODY FOR FOREIGN ALQAEDA TERRORISTS.
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- (b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL
RESIDENT ALIENS.-
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- (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.-The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens
of the United States.
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- The final enrolled version by the House does
contain a Section 1031: Counterterrorism operational briefing requirement.
(Begins on page 273). It also contains a Section 1032:
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- SEC. 1032. NATIONAL SECURITY PLANNING GUIDANCE TO DENY
SAFE HAVENS TO AL-QAEDA AND ITS VIOLENT EXTREMIST AFFILIATES.
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- You can read them, but no where in that final bill do
I see any language in those two sections regarding rounding up U.S. citizens
and shipping them off to Gitmo or anywhere else.
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- Again, the language is clear as to who could be detained
in both bills. Not U.S. citizens - or did I miss something? If I did and
the words 'does not' doesn't mean does not, please let me know. I hate
all these massive bills myself and we have to continue to be vigilant 24/7
when it comes to the miscreants in the Outlaw Congress. I don't trust any
of them. I just want to make sure we're not getting worked up over some
provisions in a bill that attacks our God given rights that doesn't appear
to be there.
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- Footnote
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- 1- In
the Shadow of Nemisis
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- Link
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- Obama
Must Stand Up Now or Step Down
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