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Benjamin Fulford's Explanation
Of The Fukushima Disaster
6-11-11

 

Because of a few questions and complaints about Fulford's May 25th appearance on the Jeff Rense Program, a listener kindly submitted a transcript of the program for people to read for themselves. (Caveat - We have not had time to check every word against the audio transcript but the person sending this is does transcripts professionally. -ed) If nothing else, Mr. Fulford's scenario of the 'attack' of Fukushima and the polluting of the entire northern hemisphere with radioactive isotopes of numerous kinds is 'creative'...   The transcript begins with Mr. Fulford's explanation of what caused the earthquake and tsunami and is followed by the entire contributed transcript of his one hour on the program which can be heard in the Archives...   Benjamin Fulford: The attack, again, I know you don't necessarily follow this, but the attack to try to loosen it up was the tsunami, and if you, if you go through a newspaper archive, you will find headlines in the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, I have 20 articles and Japanese papers talking about earthquake weapons.   And I have DIRECT intelligence from whistleblowers at different levels, were telling me that a, they stole 4 NUCLEAR WEAPONS from the submarine Kursk, OK?   (Story of sunken and then recovered submarine Kursk here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_K-141_Kursk ) (Norwegian scientists and Russia reject rumors there were two nuclear cruise missiles on the Kursk. Story here: http://www.cnsnews.com/node/10180 )   That sank off the Baltic, and these aren't under the control of any particular military. They are controlled by rogue intelligence 'actors.' OK?   Who are linked to the people, who until now, had the incredibly juicy right of producing dollars and Euros out of thin air.   And, they smuggled that WEAPON into a small island off of Okinawa.   It was then transported via a fishing boat to Kushin.   And then it was taken by car to a property owned by former Prime Minister Nakasone in Suludemuda (sp).   Then it was taken to the basement of the North Korean's Citizen Association headquarters in Tokyo.   And from there it was transferred onto the deep ocean drilling vessel, the Chikyo Mara.   And you won't be able to find newspaper articles in Japanese saying that the Chikyo Mara was drilling a hole right at the epicenter of what became the earthquake, starting January 17th of this year.   They drilled down 10 kilometers into the seabed, and they put the (stolen from the Kursk) atomic weapon there. OK?   (Apparently, they dropped a nuclear bomb in down a 10" or 12" diameter bore hole pipe...10 kilometers)   This was an attempt to pry the Asian money out, through terror. OK?   And, we have enough PROOF, the people in the military, the people in intelligence agencies know this. OK?   And so, yes, they have been threatening war, they have been threatening nastiness, and right now I am hearing these same rogue actors are planning a nuclear terrorist attack in Europe. OK?   There are still three unaccounted for nuclear weapons (from the Kursk).   And, the threats I'm getting directly from people in this rogue agencies, and you know, everyone in the intelligence community, wherever I passed on this information to the appropriate parties, and they issued warning.   But I have thought about what they are likely to target, and the targets they might go for would be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, or they might go after the Vatican, they might go after the City of London financial district, or the L'Olivier Fals French government district, or perhaps the EU headquarters in Brussels. OK?   But there is, I have received these threats, and they are credible. OK?   And the evidence is overwhelming, at least if you really look at it, that Japan was attacked. That was not a natural disaster. And, having said all that, OK?   The fact of the matter is that both the European Central Banks and the Federal Reserve Board do not have money right now. They are running out, and that's why, and this available in your corporate propaganda news, the US government is looting pensions. It is looting your hard earned pensions to pay its day-to-day bills. This is a fact.   Uh, the Europeans, the only people in Europe, who, who, who save money are the Northern Europeans, and the Germans and stuff, and so the federal Europeans are also begging them for money, and they're saying, 'Hey, you retire at 63, we retire at 67, why should we bail you out?' unless, or 'well, why do we work so that you can sit in the sun?' And this is the essence of the crisis.   People need to understand that economics and finance is not difficult if you think about it. It's just anything to do with the real world, and if it gets out of touch with the real world, it doesn't exist. And that's why I want to get back to this Economic Planning Agency that will start, and it's going to supersede the World Bank and the IMF. It will become a more important institution and it will be based in Asia, and if you, I want to send you the link to a map showing how much chlorophyll there is on the planet earth. OK?   That's plants. And, you'll see that most of the planet Earth, including the oceans, is desert. That means we could increase biomass on this planet by at least 100% with proper economic planning. That means you could increase farmland by 4 times simply by turning the deserts green. If you go to all the dead areas of the oceans where there is no plankton because there are no nutrients on the surface, you could increase the amount of fish, you could nutrients pumped into the bottom of the ocean to the surface, you could increase nutrients, you could have ten times more fish. In other words, sensible planning using humanities' savings in a sensible manner, would allow us to vastly increase the life on this planet making it all that much more rich and comfortable for everybody. And, we could also start doing things like building artificial planets. What has happened until now is that the savings that we're going to be used, that could be used for this purpose were hijacked by a bunch of religious fanatics who you call 'zionists,' who were planning an artificial end time. They were planning to start World War III, they are diverting it all into giant military adventures that serve no purpose but conquest and slavery. OK, this is the situation we are dealing with.     Entire Transcript of Benjamin Fulford's appearance on the Jeff Rense Program of May 25th, 9-10pm Pacific.   Rense: OK, and we're back. Let's get into hour number three and go over to Tokyo, and talk to Ben Fulford. We're going to get a bird's eye look from Ben about the current state of affairs in Tokyo, where, as you know, they have found radioactivity in the Tokyosewage sludge in the wastewater treatment plants ­ at least one location. It rivals that of wastewater treatment plants that had been also identified as being radioactive in the Fukushima prefecture in the area of the plant, but actually outside of it. It's a big story. Meanwhile, another prefecture, the governor of that prefecture said he will not test his tea - his bulk tea crop - there's nothing wrong with it, there's no reason to ­ and he had ten-year-old children go out and pick it, and they got to eat some tempura made from it, like they had a choice. Things are getting crazy over there. The economy of Japan is obviously in very serious condition. I don't know how to articulate it much better than that, because I'm not a financial expert. We do cover the stories. They're hard news. There's just an awful lot of very sad things underway there. Ben, are you there?   Fulford: Yeah, I'm here (cough). Listen, (cough) I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you completely on all of that ­   Rense: Well, you know, it's not me, I'm, all I'm doing is ­   Fulford: I have my own Geiger counter, and I'm telling you, it's still the same here ­   Rense: Ben, wait a minute. No one said that Geiger counters were needed. This is stories from the Japanese press ­   Fulford: Yeah, I know there's a sewage sludge story.   Rense: OK.   Fulford: They're finding this stuff, you can find it when they, when they, you know this is probably just illegal disposal of medical equipment, if you ask me. But, the news coverage here is very thorough, very exact, very scientific, and ­   Rense: Well, all it does is ­   Fulford (shouting over Rense): and you as far as I am concerned are panic-mongering on this issue big time, and you should not be doing so.   Rense: Now, hold on, now wait a minute ­   Fulford (shouting over Rense): I want to get my word out here!   Rense: Now ­   Fulford (shouting over Rense): You interrupt me, too much, Mr. Rense.   Rense (modulation instructions): OK, turn him down, turn him down.   Fulford (shouting louder): The economy here, the damage happened, OK? Economics ­   Rense: Ben, Ben, Ben ­ you can't   Fulford (shouting): the facts ­   Rense: (modulation instructions to the network): Turn him down. You are not allowed to make accusations and then walk all over who ever it is. If you want to make an accusation on this program, you can then stand back and allow a response. I am reporting the news from Japan's sources, from international sources, from individuals such as Yoichi Shimatsu in Hong Kong. I am not making this up. No one suggested you needed a Geiger counter in Tokyo. No one suggested the air in Tokyo was radioactive. I mentioned a radioactive reading in a sewage treatment plant in Tokyo that rivaled the amount in Fukushima prefecture, those are facts. Now, go ahead, Ben.   Fulford: (still shouting): Alright!! Now, I just, I thought, I just quickly on the economy because I have much more important things to talk about as far as I'm concerned. But just on the economy, what happened is, the damage took place all in a matter of a couple of hours.   Rense: Right.   Fulford: (shouting): After that, the statistics will measure that a month, two months, three months from now, but it's already over. What's happening now is the reconstruction, so, you know ­   Rense: Reconstruction of what, Ben? Excuse me, I'm not following you. Reconstruction of what?   Fulford: (shouting) What I'm trying to say is, when the people in the markets begin to think about the Japanese production being down,   Rense: Uh-huh   Fulford: Or the GDP going minus or stuff, right?   Rense: Right.   Fulford: What they're doing is measuring several months, what happened several months ago. And that, what happened several months ago, happened within an hour or two. OK?   Rense: Well, certainly less than ­ certainly less than 24 hours, yes.   Fulford: OK, well the point is that the ­ the damage took place in a very short period of time, and a lot was destroyed. Factories were destroyed, homes were destroyed, all that was destroyed when that happened, and that happened all at once, and it was a very tragic thing. But, from the economic point of view, when you look at statistics now, and you think Oh, Japan's economy is in trouble, then you're missing the reality, which is the trouble ended in the 24-hour period, and what happens now is the reconstruction. What that means is they're going to have to build lots of houses, they're going to fill those houses with appliances, they're going to have to build new roads, they are going to have to rebuild factories. So, in other words, the future is not gloomy. It's just a nasty thing happened in the past. People need to understand Japan is not in trouble, and it is not in such a deep mess.   Rense: I admire what you're saying ­   Fulford: As far as I'm concerned ­   Rense: Alright, go ahead.   Fulford: Is the arrest of the head of the IMF   Rense: Mm hmm   Fulford: On charges of molesting a maid ­   Rense: Well, they've got to nail the DNA, but the guy was obviously ­ well, he had a predilection for sexual escapades that was well known, and he may have been set up. We don't know that but please, since you're in Tokyo and in Japan, I need you as a resource and an asset here to help us understand ­   Fulford: (shouting) Yeah, but I'm involved with stuff - YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING! I'm directly involved with the people who organized Strauss-Kahn's arrest. OK?   Rense: You are???   Fulford: I'm not reading it on the internet, I'm talking about the people who arranged the arrest, and if you do not understand about that and about me and the position I'm in, then you don't know what's going on!   Rense: Well, how can I if you don't tell us?   Fulford: (shouting) Well, I'm telling you!!! Right now!!!   Rense: Well, lower your voice, and calm down, and   Fulford: (shouting) (garbled)   Rense: And be   Fulford: Strauss-Kahn is part of an ongoing battle over the future of the financial system, which you know about, about the FDR special drawing rights ­   Rense: Mm-hmm.   Fulford: the dollar, and the Euro and the Euro crisis,   Rense: OK.   Fulford: This is very historical, important stuff, and I really need to explain this this week, because it's coming to a head. What people need to understand, is that most of the Euros and dollars being printed in recent years are not backed by anything real.   Rense: Right.   Fulford: OK? And that means that, you know, if you look at the old cartoons, the Road Runner, or the coyote in mid-air, he's still running and doesn't realize that there's nothing under him ­   Rense: Right.   Fulford: And what happened with Dominique Strauss-Kahn, was that they have been trying to get what little money is left, and there's like a fight over the real stuff, the stuff that was actually burned by people making things, putting actual money in the bank and not by trading out of thin air, by derivatives or other forms of fraud ­   Rense: Mm-hmm.   Fulford: Any my sources, who include people, you know, involved in the Federal Reserve Board, and the European central banks at the highest levels, are telling me that Strauss-Kahn was trying to get his hands on the American Social Security money in order to pay off the Euro, the bail out for parts to go in these other countries. Now, you notice they're talking about a new European to head the IMS, uh, maybe a French lady or something.   Rense: Right.   Fulford: But the fact of the matter is that if Europe is to be bailed out, they are going to need to borrow money from Asian countries   Rense: Mm-hmm.   Fulford: From Middle Eastern countries.   Rense: Mm-hmm.   Fulford: From countries that actually have money they earned by exporting real things, such as oil and cars and toys.   Rense: Right.   Fulford: And what's happened is that the Asian and other countries of the world have said to the Europeans and the Americans, 'Look, you guys have been leeching off us for 30 years now,' and when I say that, what I mean is that they run, with the exception of Germany and Northern Europe, they have run external trade deficits for about that long. Especially the United States. In other words, they have been buying stuff they can't pay for for 30 years. And now, everyone has said, we are not going to lend you any more money. You people really need to understand this. So, we talk about a Greek crisis or a Portuguese crisis, it's not a crisis of, you know, some weird financial thing. The fact of the matter is, these people have been spending more than they earned, and now they are asking their northern cousins to bail them out ­   Rense: Right.   Fulford: And the northern cousins don't have enough money to bail them out ­   Rense: That's true.   Fulford: And the Asians aren't going to bail them out ­   Rense: Let's hope not ­   Fulford: They are going to do it directly. They are not going to do it via a European controlled institution like the International Monetary Fund. So ­   Rense: Is there ­ Ben ­ is there any tie-in with Sarkozy and running for the alleged office of president of France?   Fulford: Well, sure. I mean, Sarkozy had a good interest in having this person, this rival eliminated. Now, you understand a lot of these people molest women all the time ­   Rense: That's right.   Fulford: And, actually it's covered up.   Rense: Right.   Fulford: So, what, you know, the point of view here in Asia is, OK, you know, it's business as usual, but for some reason this time they decided to arrest him over it. There must be a power struggle ­   Rense: Well, I said that, and I'm sure you did immediately. Why are they letting him swing in the wind? They could have gotten his taken care of. They shouldn't have arrested him on the plane, they wait till the plane takes off, it's you know, no big deal.   Fulford: Because there is a high level battle taking place ­   Rense: Right ­   Fulford: Over control of the financial system. And he was a victim. And there's going to be a lot more victims coming up, and this is the thing you see, what's happened is there has been very, very large scale, high level fraud, involving very, very famous people, uh, you know, and we're talking hundreds of thousands of people, and this had been going on for quite a long time, but events are coming to a head. They are going to be setting up an entire, immune, international agency, OK? And I'm involved with this directly. That's what I'm talking about this week. It's going to be an international economic planning agency, and what this new agency is going to do, first of all, it's not, it's going to be controlled by the people who actually put up the money, which is not the case with the IMF right now.   Rense: Hm.   Fulford: You know Asians and Middle Easterners and whoever put up the money, and people like little tiny European countries likeBelgium get to decide how to spend it.   Rense: Do we, do we have a name for this new organization.   Fulford: Well, unless you can tell me something better, right now the working title is the International Economic Planning Agency, IEPA.   Rense: OK. Alright, hold on just a second, Ben, we have got to pause. Take a break, come right back with Ben Fulford in Tokyo, getting another look at the IMF issue and the behind-the-scenes war over what they call 'big money.' Back in a minute.   (Break.)   Rense: Back with Ben Fulford in Tokyo, in a world where money is nothing, it's an illusion, we're looking now toward an issue of the Asians having the trump card, the Russians to a degree, and they are the world's #2 supplier of oil. It's going to be something interesting to see. The eyes of the world are on basically the Asian money stash. It's real, a lot of it, and I assume that many people would like to get their hands on it. Is there an attack coming to try to loosen that money up?   Fulford: The attack, again, I know you don't necessarily follow this, but the attack to try to loosen it up was the tsunami, and if you, if you go through a newspaper archive, you will find headlines in the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, I have 20 articles and Japanese papers talking about earthquake weapons.   And I have DIRECT intelligence from whistleblowers at different levels, were telling me that a, they stole 4 NUCLEAR WEAPONS from the submarine Kursk, OK?   (Story of sunken and then recovered submarine Kursk here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_K-141_Kursk ) (Norwegian scientists and Russia reject rumors there were two nuclear cruise missiles on the Kursk. Story here: http://www.cnsnews.com/node/10180 )   That sank off the Baltic, and these aren't under the control of any particular military. They are controlled by rogue intelligence 'actors.' OK?   Who are linked to the people, who until now, had the incredibly juicy right of producing dollars and Euros out of thin air.   And, they smuggled that WEAPON into a small island off of Okinawa.   It was then transported via a fishing boat to Kushin.   And then it was taken by car to a property owned by former Prime Minister Nakasone in Suludemuda (sp).   Then it was taken to the basement of the North Korean's Citizen Association headquarters in Tokyo.   And from there it was transferred onto the deep ocean drilling vessel, the Chikyo Mara.   And you won't be able to find newspaper articles in Japanese saying that the Chikyo Mara was drilling a hole right at the epicenter of what became the earthquake, starting January 17th of this year.   They drilled down 10 kilometers into the seabed, and they put the (stolen from the Kursk) atomic weapon there. OK?   (Apparently, they dropped a nuclear bomb in down a 10" or 12" diameter bore hole pipe...10 kilometers)   This was an attempt to pry the Asian money out, through terror. OK?   And, we have enough PROOF, the people in the military, the people in intelligence agencies know this. OK?   And so, yes, they have been threatening war, they have been threatening nastiness, and right now I am hearing these same rogue actors are planning a nuclear terrorist attack in Europe. OK?   There are still three unaccounted for nuclear weapons (from the Kursk).   And, the threats I'm getting directly from people in this rogue agencies, and you know, everyone in the intelligence community, wherever I passed on this information to the appropriate parties, and they issued warning.   But I have thought about what they are likely to target, and the targets they might go for would be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, or they might go after the Vatican, they might go after the City of London financial district, or the L'Olivier Fals French government district, or perhaps the EU headquarters in Brussels. OK?   But there is, I have received these threats, and they are credible. OK?   And the evidence is overwhelming, at least if you really look at it, that Japan was attacked. That was not a natural disaster. And, having said all that, OK?   The fact of the matter is that both the European Central Banks and the Federal Reserve Board do not have money right now. They are running out, and that's why, and this available in your corporate propaganda news, the US government is looting pensions. It is looting your hard earned pensions to pay its day-to-day bills. This is a fact.   Uh, the Europeans, the only people in Europe, who, who, who save money are the Northern Europeans, and the Germans and stuff, and so the federal Europeans are also begging them for money, and they're saying, 'Hey, you retire at 63, we retire at 67, why should we bail you out?' unless, or 'well, why do we work so that you can sit in the sun?' And this is the essence of the crisis.   People need to understand that economics and finance is not difficult if you think about it. It's just anything to do with the real world, and if it gets out of touch with the real world, it doesn't exist. And that's why I want to get back to this Economic Planning Agency that will start, and it's going to supersede the World Bank and the IMF. It will become a more important institution and it will be based in Asia, and if you, I want to send you the link to a map showing how much chlorophyll there is on the planet earth. OK?   That's plants. And, you'll see that most of the planet Earth, including the oceans, is desert. That means we could increase biomass on this planet by at least 100% with proper economic planning. That means you could increase farmland by 4 times simply by turning the deserts green. If you go to all the dead areas of the oceans where there is no plankton because there are no nutrients on the surface, you could increase the amount of fish, you could nutrients pumped into the bottom of the ocean to the surface, you could increase nutrients, you could have ten times more fish. In other words, sensible planning using humanities' savings in a sensible manner, would allow us to vastly increase the life on this planet making it all that much more rich and comfortable for everybody. And, we could also start doing things like building artificial planets. What has happened until now is that the savings that we're going to be used, that could be used for this purpose were hijacked by a bunch of religious fanatics who you call 'zionists,' who were planning an artificial end time. They were planning to start World War III, they are diverting it all into giant military adventures that serve no purpose but conquest and slavery. OK, this is the situation we are dealing with.     Rense: Hm. OK. Well, you've ­   Fulford: And this, I know it sounds crazy, but it's real!   Rense: Well, I've ­   Fulford: And it's very provable. You know it. It's all there in your pages over the years. You can see it's there. Their plans are very clear.   Rense: Their plans to start wars and kill people, and profit from it, are legendary, and we know that to be a fact. So, hang on, we have to take a break. Just a second.   Fulford: Yeah.   Rense. Be right back in just a few minutes on this Wednesday, amazing, Wednesday night, the last Wednesday of May already. OK. Hang on. Be back in a minute.   (Break)   Rense: OK, back with Ben Fulford in Tokyo. The story yesterday that they have to move another 70,000 people away from that wrecked plant, in addition to all of the others that they have had to move so far, they are living in shelters. My God. What are they going to do with these poor people?   Fulford: Well, they are going to have to find new homes for them, and that's going to happen. And again, I want to emphasize that there was several housing companies here in Japan, that their stock prices rose dramatically in the months prior to the tsunami, like New Japan House and Misara Home. In other words, in a country where you have a declining population, 3 million empty homes, there is no reason for a home price builders stock to rise suddenly one month before a tsunami that no one supposedly predicted, unless they had inside knowledge. But, they will be building houses now, lots of them, and they will be making lots of money and you have to ask yourself, who owns these shares, who bought them, when did they buy them, why did they buy them, and you will find the investigative trail to serving prosecutors in the Tokyo prosecutors' office, it leads to Senator Jay Rockefeller, OK? I'm going to put that name out there, because we have evidence. At the Democratic Party power broker at Ichiba Ozawa. OK, we have people, we have a list, we have intelligence of people who had inside knowledge previous to this tsunami. We have a conversation between Foreign Minister of the United States, or Secretary of State Kurt Campbell and Ozawa on March 9th, where Campbell told Ozawa we will call off the prosecutors who are harassing you on bogus charges, if you'll agree to keep the current ruling party in power, and we will give you the rights to all the zeolite in Fukushima prefecture. Zeolite, as you know is used to clean up radioactive waste. This conversation took place on March 9th, 2 days before the tsunami and the attack, and the University of Tokyo detected an anomalous, you know, what is it, radioactive, microwave signals associated with HAARP prior to the tsunami, and they stopped immediately after the tsunami earthquake and out best intelligence tells us this is a deliberate attack involving a seabed, a time bomb and scalar magnetic weapons, OK? And the evidence is there. This is not some way out conspiracy nut. If they want to sue us, we can prove it in court. That's why I guarantee you they won't.   Rense: If they ­   Fulford: Because they know, they are going to go to jail! They know!   Rense: But ­   Fulford: They're not going to get away with this.   Rense: If they asked your team to describe and define scientifically what a scalar weapon is, how would they do it?   Fulford: Well, we would direct them to the treaties signed between the United States and the Soviet Union in the 1970s which were widely publicized in places like the New York Times, and all the other newspapers of the world, and we would direct them to the patents on HAARP that describe how the mechanisms work ­   Rense: Well HAARP is not scalar.   Fulford: Well, no, see, HAARP is part of this. HAARP is actually. Actually, I should not harp too much on HAARP, because a lot of it is used as disinformation to get us off the real issue, which is essentially seabed nuclear weapons. And this, we can prove, very clearly and scientifically and in great detail. We even have whistleblowers were are involved in the smuggling of the atomic bomb intoJapan. They were not involved in the actual placing it on the seabed, or setting it off. But they were drug smugglers who brought that in with their stuff. OK? And they told us about this. We have their names. They are willing to testify.   Rense: Where will they testify, Ben? If they can.   Fulford: (Shouting) Well that's the problem isn't it? (Voice lowered.) We have this international criminal court that are, that are controlled by these people. You're dealing with guys who have been above the law for so long, they thought they could get away with anything forever. And we know who we're' talking about. We're talking about Henry Kissinger, we're talking about George Bush, SR., and we're talking about David Rockefeller, we're talking about Jay Rockefeller, all of these guys. We know who they are, and they thought that they could get away with this sort of stuff forever, mass murder, invading countries, massacring civilians, starting wars, and you know, all this international criminal activity at the highest level, they thought they could get away with it forever. Well, they're not! There is enough of this now where we are disgusted enough, we are angry enough that we're saying, 'You guys are not going to be able to continue doing this. We're not going to let you run the planet anymore because you're criminal, you're incompetent, you're pathologically sick, mentally' ­ well, I mean, they're mass murderers, they're ____(25:53)_____ and they're not good at managing the planet. Their answer, they said, 'Oh, gee, well we're destroying the environment, that means we have to kill 4 billion people.' Well, no. You have to have a proper economic system in place where all the reserves are not being spent on the total mass slaughter through the giant armies. All it takes is 200 billion to end poverty and 400 billion to stop the environmental destruction, and then enough to create one year's US military spending ­   Rense: When will we see, in your estimation, the freeing up of alternative technologies, both energy and health. When will this happen?   Fulford: It's slowly happening. I mean, it's going to have to wait until the mass arrest of pharmaceutical company mass murderers, and ____(26:41)____ of the American Medical Association and the WHO. We are going to have to get the criminals out of the system. That's going to take a while, but it will have to wait until the political change takes place. But, the alternative energy has actually started, and this where we can get back to the subject you wish to talk about, which is Japan, and that is that the nuclear disaster has a silver lining to this cloud, which is that there is serious debate now and you can see it on the national television broadcasts and the newspapers, about the entire business model of centralized energy controlled by monopolies or near monopolies, and are serious talks about like a very clever entrepreneur, Masurashi Son, you know who bought Yahoo, and was always in the business press. He is thinking of taking over Tokyo Electric Power.   Rense: If he takes over TEPCO, is there a move...a substantial move there to shut down (Japan's) 55 nuclear power plants?   Fulford: Well yeah, it would mean replacing them with solar energy and all that other stuff, over time.   Rense: Right. I mean, is there a substantial move in the parliament?   Fulford: Yeah!! Yeah. This was discussed. He has openly proposed you know giant solar farms, for example, in the tsunami stricken region, to replace the nuclear power plants. The other thing was, you know that business model that actually would work right now, you know how they give you like a mobile phone for like a dollar, or something?   Rense: Sure.   Fulford: It's really a dollar, what happens is you pay for it over installments.   Rense: That's right. That's right.   Fulford: You could do the same. You could give everyone a free solar panel, right? And you could say, all right, from now on you pay off your electricity bill so the electricity company ­ but after 5 years guess what? You don't have to pay your bill any more and your electricity is free.   Rense: Well, there are so many wonderful alternatives sitting on the shelf ­   Fulford: Well, what happened with this disaster ­   Rense: Hold that thought, Ben, will you? We have to pause. Just a second. We'll be right back with more in just a minute.   (Break)   Rense: OK, in Tokyo, Ben Fulford. The head of TEPCO stepped down last week I guess, no big surprise there.   Fulford: (Garbled)   Rense: How is the government holding up under increasing public outrage about its policies of not telling the truth ­ the full truth ­ about the extent of the disaster at Fukushima?   Fulford: Well the thing is that the public is kind of docile and obedient to the government media, of the government controlled media, so you just don't see a lot of panic here. OK, people are, it's like in German World War II, they'd read in the newspapers about a great victory at Midway, you know? (Laugh). I can honestly say there's not a lot of anger here among the people ­   Rense: So you're saying the media is covering this up to the extent that the people really don't have a good grip on the dynamics involved?   Fulford: Well, the media is putting it out in a rather calm manner based on fact, and they do report a lot about it, but they do it ­ they put a pause in the spin on it. And there's a general ­ you know, people have to go on with their lives and they are not in a state of fear or panic, which is what I believe was the desired result of this attack.   Rense: What I was suggesting was that they're beginning to show anger. I don't know how widespread it is, but the government has raised the annual millisievert allowable limits for children to 20 a year, which is way over the limit, and the people are not happy about that.   Fulford: I mean again, the government support rate is low, but it's always been low, and yet nothing seems to change here.   Rense: Hmmm.   Fulford: But you know, I have talked to people and what they do is they take personal action, for example when the government said it was safe to drink the water except for babies, well everybody in the whole city of Tokyo stopped drinking tap water, and they're the same way. They're not. They're going to, you know, accept their own safety limits, but the debate is clearly rationale and calm here, and what we find is that ­ and this is a fact, that the people involved in panic mongering about radiation are people who have always been doing this since way back. And, they've had a lot of fake reports, exaggerated reports, sensationalist reports, you have this guy going around with a fake Geiger counter saying he came from Chernobyl and this is even worse, and he's ______(32:11)_____ to all these Japanese left wing activists, and he's giving them this false information, so they are all actual disinformation, disinformation agents out there actively spreading irrational panic, and that's why I guess I had that emotional outburst, which I apologize for at the beginning of the show, because I am tired of the panic mongering as opposed to the rationale reporting that I have seen too much of in the English press, as opposed to the Japanese ­   Rense: I just want you to know...   Fulford: (Garbled, shouting over Rense again)   Rense: I am very meticulous about the....   Fulford: (Garbled, talking over Rense again)   Rense: The media outlets that I quote on my site...I don't know about other sites...but I am really careful about it.   Fulford: Sure. I mean I am ­ and I do read it. But for now anyway, things are OK, but it will, you know, it is, it is a fact of the matter that over time the area that the people will have to evacuate will expand, and there will be a massive cleanup operation and it's going to take years, and years and years to clean it up, but ­   Rense: What do you think the ultimate price tag will be? They're talking about 200 or 300 billion. I think that's conservative, don't you?   Fulford: Well, you know, when you get something that big, it's kind of hard to put numbers on it.   Rense: That's the way it looks to me.   Fulford: It's much better that you get the real, like intuitive understanding is to go to Google Earth, OK? And look at the area through the Google Earth satellite pictures and just see for yourself how big an area is actually being, you know, changed as a result, and then you will realize that it's big, but in terms of the size of the island, it's not that big. You know what I mean? It's like less than like maybe a tenth of a percent, I don't know, whatever, but it's not as big as, maybe 1 percent, or no, a half a percent. We're talking about 450,000 people who had to leave their homes, and we're talking about a nation of 130 million, so yeah, less than half a percent. And that's the actual reality, you know. So you have to put things in perspective. It's a lot like in a single night in the firebombing of Tokyo, they destroyed 1/4 of the homes in Tokyo. That's 25%.   Rense: Oh, see, that's another thing. World War II is not understood by people any more. What was done to the Japanese people was beyond criminal. Just incredible.   Fulford: And, and, they've suffered and the memory of people still alive is far far worse than this attack. And that's why I think they are pretty resilient and they're pretty calm considering.   Rense: Well, very much stoic about things. I don't know how they rally to it. But maybe it is sort of a remnant of World War II. They learned to put up with...   Fulford: (Garbled, speaking over Rense again) The government is much more confident here. What happened in the United States is that you used to have very good government, and then they went out and they privatized everything too much. There are some areas where private industry does a worse job, and I would say that prunes are a good example, utilities can be depending, but you cleaning up after disasters and stuff is a definite example where public service is better than profit. But, but, I mean you're a model, I mean the European, North American liberal capitalist business model has failed, miserably and the result is that your economies are in a state of shear collapse. They're only surviving much worse disaster than you've seen already, I mean, we're far worse than what Lehman saw, only thanks to the generosity of the rest of the world. You're living on borrowed time, and in a state of denial, and ­ and that's not going to continue.   Rense: We've been looted, Ben, and you know it ­   Fulford: (Shouting) (Garbled) The American people have been looted, but what I'm talking about is your power structure. I'm talking about the criminals in Washington, D.C., I'm talking about the generals who got bribes and hid them in Vatican accounts ­   Rense: Mm-hmm.   Fulford: I'm talking about the Wall Street ­ you know, ___(36:36)______ I'm talking about the criminals and plutocrats who looted your people and your country as well as the rest of the world.   Rense: That's right.   Fulford: (Garbled)   Rense: It all goes right back ultimately to the City of London, that 2-square mile patch in London where the money of the world passes.   Fulford: (Speaking over Rense again) It, it goes back to the creation of fiat currency, back in 1690. I would trace it to 1690 when they first started putting out money that wasn't actually backed by anything, and they created the biggest pyramid scheme in the history of the planet, and they had a 300-year run and it's finally ending. They have got nowhere else to go, they have destroyed the planet, or they've come close to it, and they're hoping to kill everybody in order to get away with what they've tried to do, and it's not going to happen. The thing is, if money is not backed by something in the real world, it doesn't exist, and these guys they can put out press conferences, they can lie to the media, they can have their little G8 and media news, and they can do whatever they want but reality is going to intrude on their party. There is nothing they can do about it. Reality is real, fake dollars aren't real. The Euro is not backed by anything in the actual world don't exist. And these people, they can flip and they can flop and they can murder and they can threaten, but it's too late. They've destroyed their own system through their greed, through their megalomania, and through their plans to create a fascist world government and kill 4 billion people.   They are not going to get away with it. They aren't going to be, the world knows, the world intelligence agencies, the world's militaries, the world's police agencies, the people who actually control the guns and the people who actually control the news of violence know about this now. And they are not letting them get away with it. They right ­ they don't have it unglued anymore to suppress the people. They still control the corporate media and the English language and that's why you see all these ridiculous contradictory stories about Libya, about whatever. Look at Libya. If you read the Zionist controlled press, you'd think that the whole world is bombing Libya when in fact it's only a few places from Italy, the UK, and France. The American military is not involved. Whatever they may say in your lying corporate media, they are not involved. In fact, the Libyans are supplying them with oil. The pentagon is getting oil from the Libyans.   Rense: Well, they're getting ­   Fulford: (Talking over Rense) Washington, D.C.   Rense: They're getting oil from the Libyans who are occupying...the eastern part of the country ­   Fulford: (Talking over Rense). That's the Saudis. That's the Saudis. The Saudis are ­ you see, what I'm trying to say is that the pentagon is no longer with the crooks in Washington, D.C. There are some still, some still political issues to be dealt with, I have heard General Petraeus is still with the bad guys, but generally speaking, the American military and the people in the agencies are patriotic and they're intelligent and they know that the American people have been shafted, and they know who shafted them, and they're not going to let these people get away with it. And, I'm in touch with these guys. And they're patriotic, and they're not going to let anyone mess with the United States of America, and they have messed with it enough and enough is enough. When they tried to loot the Social Security money, they put the guy in jail. That's a good example. There're going to be more examples like that. That guy was one of the most powerful people, if not the most powerful person in international finance, and put him in a jail cell.   Rense: Well, we'll see what happens. We'd love to see it cleaned up like you project, and ­   Fulford: (Speaking over Rense.) It's going to take a couple of months. But it is going to happen. It will happen. 100%.   Rense: All right. Let's hope so, Ben. Thanks. Good night. Couple months, we'll see. Time to clean house. All right. I'll be back tomorrow night. Boy, it goes fast. 21 Hours, it's going to be Thursday tomorrow, the 26th _______________ (40:53) will be here, Jim Marrs will be here, and lots more, so see you tomorrow night and in the meantime, we will be with you, of course, on the net at Rense.com. Take care.   (End of show.)

 

 

 

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