- Christopher Bollyn is an American journalist and researcher.
He is widely known for his extensive researches on the September 11, 2001
attacks which reveal that Israel has been complicit in planning and carrying
out the terrorist attacks that cost the lives of 2,976 victims and left
more than 6,000 injured. The U.S. government under ex-President Bush introduced
the paramilitary group Al-Qaida the main culprit of the attacks and adopted
an aggressive policy towards the Muslim nations thereafter It also enacted
the USA PATRIOT Act that would enable the U.S. government to search and
investigate the telephone and email communications of the U.S. citizens
under the pretext of discovering and mapping out the possible threats to
the U.S. national security. Bollyn has written on the U.S. Israel
relations comprehensively and believes that a powerful corporate cartel
of Zionists control and mastermind the large-scale U.S. foreign policy.
- What follows is the full text of an in-depth interview
with Christopher Bollyn in which we've discussed the post 9-11 "War
on Terrorism" project devised by the Bush administration, the complicity
of the state of Israel in the 9-11 attacks, the fate of Israeli regime
in the wake of its growing isolation, the stance of United States administration
towards Iran's nuclear dossier and the double standards it exercises with
regards to the Israel's military nuclear program.
- Kourosh Ziabari: Dear Christopher - You've written
on the 9/11 attacks and the involvement of the Mossad and CIA in the attacks
extensively. The former Italian President Francisco Cossiga has also testified
that Mossad and CIA were involved in the attacks. Would you please summarize
for our readers the evidence which, according to your research, indicates
that Israel created the 9/11 catastrophe?
- Christopher Bollyn: The earliest evidence of Israeli
involvement in 9-11 was actually revealed in the news on the very day of
the terror attacks and shortly thereafter, but never followed up in the
- First, there was the van of 5 Israelis who were arrested
in New Jersey on 9-11. This group, which included two Mossad agents known
to U.S. law enforcement, had been observed videotaping the destruction
of the Twin Towers with themselves celebrating in front of the camera,
flicking their lighters and laughing with the burning towers in the background
across the river. These Israelis worked for a fake moving company, Urban
Moving Systems of Weehawken, New Jersey, which actually turned out to be
a Mossad front operation. Dominic Suter, the head of the phony company,
was allowed to escape to Israel shortly after 9-11 although he was a terror
suspect being investigated by the FBI.
- The five Israelis, some of whom refused or failed lie
detector tests, were caught in possession of multiple passports, box cutters,
and a large amount of cash stuffed in their socks. Their van tested positive
for explosives when checked by New Jersey police, at least until the FBI
took over the investigation. When the five Mossadniks were returned to
Israel in November 2001, three of them appeared on a popular television
show and openly admitted that their mission had been to document the terror
attacks. Who had given them this mission was not discussed.
- Secondly, there were some 4,000 Israelis who were expected
to have been at the World Trade Center, as per the Israeli foreign ministry
and the Jerusalem Post, who did not show up for work on 9-11. There were
text messages sent on Odigo, an Israeli-owned instant messaging system,
warning of the terror attacks several hours before the first plane hit
the towers. These warnings were evidently sent in Hebrew and warned of
terror attacks at the World Trade Center. Alex Diamandis, Odigo's vice
president, said, "The messages said something big was going to happen
in a certain amount of time, and it did almost to the minute."
The Odigo story was reported in the Washington Post, but not a single
New York newspaper picked it up. The Post reported that the FBI had sent
a team to Israel to investigate the content and origin of these messages,
but the story was dropped and never investigated any further in the U.S.
- How odd.
- Both of these stories were reported, but only briefly
and then dropped into the memory hole. I began my 9-11 research by investigating
these stories. With such clear evidence of Israeli prior knowledge of the
attacks, I pursued my investigation to see if Israelis or Zionists were
involved in other key aspects of the crime or the cover-up, and I found
that they were. Indeed, orthodox Jews and Zionists cropped up at every
critical point of the operation, which I discuss in detail in my book,
Solving 9-11 The Deception that Changed the World.
- The key U.S. official behind the 9-11 cover-up was Assistant
Attorney General Michael Chertoff, an Israeli citizen and son of a Mossad
agent. Chertoff was the head of the criminal division of the Department
of Justice at the time and the top boss of the FBI. From this position
Chertoff managed the FBI's "non-investigation" of 9-11, and supervised
the confiscation and destruction of the critical evidence from the crime
scenes, such as videotapes, aircraft debris, and more than 99 percent of
the steel from the World Trade Center. The destruction of this crucial
evidence is a crime in and of itself.
- KZ: You've come to the conclusion that Israel was the
main culprit of the 9/11 attacks; however, your opponents categorize you
as a conspiracy theorist. Is this a fair judgment?
- CB: A conspiracy is a secret plan by a group of people
to do something harmful or illegal. There is certainly no question that
the terror attacks of 9-11 were planned and carried out by a group of people
acting in secret. A conspiracy theorist in this context would be a person
who believes that a conspiracy is behind the terrorism attacks that started
the so-called "War on Terror."
- Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama have both
stated that an Islamic conspiracy, headed by Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaida,
is behind 9-11. Based on this specious and unproven assertion the Bush
administration invaded Afghanistan in October 2001 and began a war of occupation
which the Obama administration has adopted as its own and continues to
fight to this day. President Obama says the U.S. is fighting the war in
Afghanistan because of 9-11.
- I, on the other hand, consider 9-11 to be an unsolved
crime and have pursued my investigation based on the available evidence.
Since the evidence indicates that Israeli intelligence had prior knowledge
of the attacks and because prior knowledge of something like 9-11 is indicative
of involvement in the crime, I have worked on the hypothesis that the state
of Israel was involved in 9-11 and have pursued my investigation along
that line. That does not make me a conspiracy theorist.
- One of the main reasons I rejected the government claim
that Al Qaida was behind 9-11 is because all the evidence indicates that
the Twin Towers and WTC 7 were demolished with explosives. The plane crashes
did not bring down the Twin Towers and Larry Silverstein's 47-story building,
which collapsed a block away without even being hit.
- When I learned in the summer of 2002 that molten iron
had been found at the base of all three towers, I knew I had evidence that
the Bush administration's explanation of what had happened to the World
Trade Center was false. This important discovery revealed that the public
had been lied to by the government about what really happened on 9-11.
- The publication of the peer-reviewed paper about the
discovery of large amounts of active super-thermite in the dust of the
demolished World Trade Center by Dr. Steven E. Jones and others in March
2009 provides scientific proof that an extremely energetic form of thermite,
made with nanotechnology, was responsible for the pulverization of the
220 concrete floors of the Twin Towers, and everything on them. This is
what created the immense clouds of hot dust that everyone saw on 9-11.
Survivors have said that the dust was burning hot.
- This is because it contained tiny droplets of molten
iron, which were described and shown in the U.S. Geological Survey study
of the dust. The hot spots that burned beneath the rubble for three months
were hotter than the boiling point of iron and created nanosize particles
that were found in large quantities in the smoke rising from the pile.
- These were all clear indications that thermite had been
used to demolish the towers.
- Logically, the discovery of chips of super-thermite in
the dust marked the end of the official version as an acceptable explanation
for what happened to the Twin Towers. Neither Osama Bin Laden nor Al Qaida
had anything to do with the creation or application of the super-thermite
that pulverized the World Trade Center. These facts are becoming clear
to a growing number of people. The game is over for the 9-11 cover-up
- KZ: You introduced Michael Chertoff as the key person
responsible for the destruction of 9/11 evidence. Isn't the U.S. administration
really aware of the fact that, as you believe, Israel was behind the 9/11
attacks? Have the U.S. statesmen ever referred to the research carried
out by you and other scholars who put forward evidence that Israel carried
out the 9/11 attacks?
- CB: In March 2010, Dr. Alan Sabrosky, the former Director
of Strategic Studies at the U.S. Army War College, said in a radio interview:
"It is one hundred percent certain that 9-11 was a Mossad operation,
period." Dr. Sabrosky also stated that high-level U.S. military officers
know that Israel did it.
- Dr. Sabrosky is, to my knowledge, the first person from
the U.S. military establishment to have publicly supported the hypothesis
that Israeli intelligence was behind 9-11. I have not heard of any U.S.
statesman refer to my research although I am sure there are many politicians
who are aware of it.
- KZ: The war on terrorism project was initially set off
following the 9/11 attacks. In other words, the 9/11 attacks played into
the hands of the U.S. administration to launch military strikes against
Iraq and Afghanistan, as alleged state sponsors of terrorism. Is there
any third country which is liable to be targeted next? Is this third country
going to be Iran?
- Bollyn: My hypothesis is that 9-11 was an Israeli-designed
"false-flag" operation that was meant to be blamed on Al Qaida
in order to kick-start the Zionist-designed "War on Terror."
Actually, Iran is probably the main target, at least in the minds of the
Zionist war planners. This is because the CIA and the Mossad got kicked
out of Iran when Shah Pahlavi was overthrown in 1979. The foreign oil
corporations, big capital, and their intelligence agencies want to get
Iran back under their control.
- I always thought that the name "Central Command"
or CENTCOM was a strange name for the military command that oversees U.S.
operations in the Middle East - central to whom? Iran now finds itself
surrounded by U.S. military interventions on three sides and CENTCOM is
based in Qatar, right in the middle.
- Furthermore, Iran has long been the target of a concerted
effort led by the Zionists and the controlled press to impose sanctions
in an effort to weaken the largest independent nation in the Middle East.
This is why they use the issue of Iran's nuclear development, most unfairly,
as a club to attack the Iranian government. The Zionist Axis of New York,
London, and Tel Aviv refuses to accept that Iran is not under their control.
- KZ: You've published pictures on your website which depict
the Jews demonstrating against Tel Aviv, holding placards that read: "The
state of Israel does not represent world Jewry". Is the controversial
regime of Israel, which is even hated by a large number of its own citizens,
going to survive with the trajectory it has adopted?
- CB: No. I don't see how a small, artificial state run
by terrorists and despised by its neighbors and most of the world can possibly
survive in the long term. It simply is not sustainable. This is, after
all, why 9-11 was carried out - to bring the U.S. military into the Middle
East to protect the Zionist hegemony in the region. Public opinion, however,
has turned strongly against Israel as a result of a long string of Zionist
crimes and atrocities. A state that is so despised simply cannot survive
- KZ: The United States officials regularly reaffirm their
commitment to the security of Israel and disallow the international community
to hold her accountable for the war crimes it commits. Is it possible for
the international bodies, including the United Nations Security Council,
to investigate Israel's criminal conduct independently and put on trial
the Tel Aviv officials while the United States continually supports the
- CB: This is the real problem. Zionist influence and
control over the U.S. government prevents the international community from
reining in the behavior of the nuclear-tipped outlaw state of Israel.
The U.S. veto in the U.N. Security Council has effectively protected Israel
from sanctions for decades. But the failure to enforce international law
and apply corrective measures on the state of Israel has resulted in the
creation of a monster-state that is now out of control. Had the system
of international law worked as it should Israel would have been forced
to adjust its behavior and find a way to live in peace with the Palestinians
and its neighbors.
- KZ: What do you think about the recent massacre of peace
activists aboard the Freedom Flotilla who were heading towards the Gaza
strip to break the siege of the beleaguered enclave? Why did the U.S. and
European leaders keep silent in respect of the vicious assault of the Israel
Defense Forces on the peace activists? Would the international reactions
have been the same if Iran had carried out the attack?
- CB: Of course not. If Iran had committed such a massacre
on the high seas it would have been punished severely and immediately by
the United Nations and international community. Furthermore, if any other
state besides Israel were to impose a blockade on 1.5 million civilians
causing extreme hardship and suffering, it would be condemned by every
nation in the world.
- To understand the mild response of the Obama administration
to the blockade and the massacre of the nine Turkish peace activists we
should recall that Rahm Emanuel, the chief of staff of the Obama White
House, was in Israel the week before the attack and met with Benjamin Netanyahu
only four days before the Israeli assault on the Freedom Flotilla. It should
be noted that Emanuel, an Israeli citizen and the son of an Irgun terrorist,
runs the Obama administration.
- When it comes to the European response, we now have a
weak centralized European Union that discourages unilateral actions taken
by the member states. Furthermore, European foreign ministers remember
very well what happened to Anna Lindh of Sweden who had called for a European
boycott of Israel. She was murdered in broad daylight in Stockholm.
- KZ: In one of your recent articles, you've reviewed the
bankruptcy of three Icelandic banks and related it to the Israeli regime's
plundering of Iceland's economy. Would you please elaborate on this for
us and our readers?
- CB: The bankrupting of Iceland's three biggest banks
in the fall of 2008 was caused by a foreign-run operation which involved
people connected to the Mossad and the most extreme right-wing politicians
from the Likud, including Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Olmert. The First
Lady of Iceland also happens to be an Israeli. The operation basically
gained control of the privatized and deregulated banks and puffed them
up as it sucked money out of them in the form of billions of dollars in
- The privatized banks were simply loaded up with debt
and pushed off a cliff. The Icelandic banks were lending huge amounts
of money to dodgy Jewish financial tycoons left and right - without any
collateral of real value. The largest Icelandic bank to fail, Kaupthing,
for example, lent more than $2.5 billion to the Tchenguiz operation, which
is run by Victor Tchenguiz in Israel. Robert Tchenguiz, who received billions
from Kaupthing, was also one of the largest stockholders in the bank.
- The plundering of the banks of Iceland is very similar
to the Bernard Madoff scam, the bank failures, and the huge bail-out that
occurred at the same time in the United States. Madoff was the chairman
of the Sy Syms business school at Yeshiva University. His partner, the
late Sy Syms, was also a long-standing director of the privatized Israel
Discount Bank of New York, which has a branch in Switzerland that operates
under Swiss bank secrecy laws. Kaupthing also had a bank in Luxembourg
that had a Swiss branch in Geneva. When Kaupthing collapsed, their Luxembourg
subsidiary with the Swiss branch were taken over by David Rowland, an offshore
financier who works closely with Israeli intelligence. When the Icelandic
banks collapsed under a mountain of debt, the national government and international
lenders were called in to absorb the losses while the bank robbers escaped
with the money they stashed in secret bank accounts in Switzerland.
- KZ: The United States frequently attacks Iran over its
human rights record and what is claimed to be the undemocratic nature of
the Iranian regime. Should we take the Washington's accusations for granted,
we come across to the identical situations in countries such as Saudi Arabia
and Egypt in which the human right records are far more disappointing and
deplorable than Iran; however, the United States maintains close ties with
them and never states a single word in protest to their repression of the
public freedoms and violations of human rights. How is it possible to justify
this double standard?
- CB: This is the typical double standard seen in U.S.
foreign policy. Any behavior is acceptable from a regime that is willing
to play ball with big capital, big oil, and Israel. On the other hand,
any regime that refuses to go along will find itself ostracized and penalized.
The Hamas government of Palestine is a good example. Hamas won the democratic
election fair and square, but because it refuses to be accept Israeli demands
and conditions it has been ostracized. Meanwhile, Mahmoud Abbas is treated
as the president of Palestine by the United States although he has not
been elected and simply extends his term like a tyrant.
- Iran is treated in the same way. It is ostracized because
it pursues its own national interests and challenges the Anglo-American
and Zionist hegemony in the Middle East. This is why the U.S. uses its
influence to sanction Iran for its nuclear development program, which is
legal and monitored, while completely ignoring Israel's secret nuclear
arsenal. We should remember that BP, the oil company that has mucked up
the Gulf of Mexico, originally started as the Anglo-Iranian Oil company,
with the rights to virtually all the oil of Iran. A BP tanker was the first
ship to load up with Iraqi oil after the U.S.-led invasion and occupation
of Iraq. These are the people who wage war to steal the assets of sovereign
- KZ: What's your anticipation for the prospect of the
Israeli regime? It is being isolated in the eyes of nations around the
world while being supported by the U.S. and European governments. Will
the sponsorship of the U.S. and its EU allies for the state of Israel come
to cease one day? Will the Washington Tel Aviv ties eventually end
in altercation and animosity?
- CB: The state of Israel is an artificial state that is
protected and supported by the United States. This support is due to Zionist
influence and corruption of the American political system. Were this to
change and were Israel to lose the support of the U.S. government it would
be unable to survive. The current government in Israel is composed of
the most extreme elements of Israeli society, which is increasingly becoming
more orthodox and Russian. Zionist moderates have been pushed aside by
the most aggressive and unscrupulous extremists. Those who could have made
peace have been killed and replaced by terrorists who know only war.
- The people of the United States are fed up with these
costly and disastrous wars in the Middle East. A growing number are becoming
aware that we have been conned into these wars. The growing divide between
the people who know they have been lied to and the government who covers
up the truth about 9-11 is simply not sustainable. The United States is
sitting on a political fault line that may slide at any time. When the
truth of 9-11 reaches a critical mass there will be a political earthquake
that will sweep the criminals from power. This is why the discovery of
super-thermite in the dust of the World Trade Center is so important, because
it marked the end of the government version of 9-11 as an acceptable explanation.
- When the deception and lies about 9-11 are exposed and
the Zionist and Israeli culprits revealed, Israel will be left without
a friend in the world. The racist and militant Zionist regime of Israel
is bound to pass from the stage of history just like the communist dictatorships
of the Soviet Union and the apartheid regime of South Africa. Such deeply
unpopular regimes often fall without a shot being fired. They simply collapse
because they are rotten to the core and unable to stand any longer.