- Dr. Carol Rosin was the first woman corporate manager
of Fairchild Industries and was spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun in the
last years of his life. She founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation
in Outer Space in Washington DC and has testified before Congress on many
occasions about space based weapons. Von Braun revealed to Dr. Rosin a
plan to justify weapons in spaced based on hoaxing an extraterrestrial
threat. She was also present at meetings in the '70s when the scenario
for the Gulf War of the '90s was planned.
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- Testimony Of December, 2000
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- My name is Carol Rosin. I am an educator who became the
first woman corporate manager of an Aerospace Company, Fairchild Industries.
I am a Space and Missile Defense Consultant and have consulted to a number
of companies, organizations, and government departments, even the intelligence
community. I was a consultant to TRW working on the MX missile, so I was
part of that strategy, which turned out to be a role model for how to sell
space-based weapons to the public. The MX missile is yet another weapon
system that we didn't need.
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- I founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation
in Outer Space, a Washington DC based think tank. I am an author and have
testified before Congress and the President's Commission on Space.
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- When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries
from 1974 through 1977, I met the late Dr. Wernher Von Braun. We first
met in early 1974. At that time, Von Braun was dying of cancer but he assured
me that he would live a few more years to tell me about the game that was
being played- that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control
the Earth from space and space itself. Von Braun had a history of working
with weapons systems. He escaped from Germany to come to this country and
became a Vice President of Fairchild Industries when I had met him. Von
Braun's purpose during the last years of his life, his dying years, was
to educate the public and decision-makers about why space-based weapons
are dumb, dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary, unworkable,
and an undesirable idea, and about the alternatives that are available.
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- As practically a deathbed speech, he educated me about
those concepts and who the players were in this game. He gave me the responsibility,
since he was dying, of continuing this effort to prevent the weaponization
of outer space. When Wernher Von Braun was dying of cancer, he asked me
to be his spokesperson, to appear on occasions when he was too ill to speak.
I did this.
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- What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence
that he said to me over and over again during the approximately four years
that I had the opportunity to work with him. He said the strategy that
was being used to educate the public and decision makers was to use scare
tactics That was how we identify an enemy.
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- The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that
first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact,
in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. We were told that they
had "killer satellites". We were told that they were coming to
get us and control us that they were "Commies."
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- Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon
to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify
third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern.
But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based
weapons.
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- The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind
of chuckled the first time he said it. Asteroids- against asteroids we
are going to build space-based weapons.
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- And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens,
extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and
over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for
him, he would bring up that last card. "And remember Carol, the last
card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons
against aliens and all of it is a lie."
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- I think I was too naïve at that time to know the
seriousness of the nature of the spin that was being put on the system.
And now, the pieces are starting to fall into place. We are building a
space-based weapons system on a premise that is a lie, a spin. Wernher
Von Braun was trying to hint that to me back in the early 70's and right
up until the moment when he died in 1977.
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- What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort
in place. He didn't mention a timeline but he said that it was going to
be speeding up faster than anybody could possibly imagine. That the effort
to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate
past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up
there and too late.
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- When Von Braun was dying in front of me, the very first
day that I met him, he had tubes draining out of his side. He was tapping
on the desk telling me, "You will come to Fairchild." I was a
schoolteacher. He said, "You will come to Fairchild and you will be
responsible for keeping weapons out of space." The way he said it
with this intenseness in his eyes, and added that very first day, the first
time I met him, that space-based weapons were a dangerous, destabilizing,
too costly, unnecessary, untestable, unworkable idea.
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- The last card that was being held was the extraterrestrial
enemy card. The intensity with which he said that, made me realize that
he knew something that he was too afraid to mention. He was too afraid
to talk about it. He would not tell me the details. I am not sure that
I would have absorbed them if he had told me the details or even believed
him in 1974. But there was no question that that man knew and had a need
to know, I found out later.
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- There is no doubt in my mind that Wernher Von Braun knew
about the extraterrestrial issue. He explained to me the reasons why weapons
were going to be put into space, the enemies against whom we were going
to build these weapons, and that all of that was a lie. He mentioned that
extraterrestrials were going to be identified as the final enemy against
whom we were going to build space-based weapons back in 1974. The way he
said it to me, there was no doubt in my mind that he knew something that
he was too afraid to talk about.
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- Wernher Von Braun never spoke to me about any of the
details that he knew related to extraterrestrials except that one day extraterrestrials
were going to be identified as an enemy against whom we are going to build
an enormous space-based weapons system. Wernher Von Braun actually told
me that the spin was a lie that the premise for space-based weaponry,
the reasons that were going to be given, the enemies that we were going
to identify were all based on a lie.
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- I have been tracking the space-based weapons issue for
about 26 years. I have debated Generals and Congressional Representatives.
I have testified before the Congress and the Senate. I have met with people
in over 100 countries. But I have not been able to identify who the people
are who are making this space-based weapons system happen. I see the news.
I see the administrative decisions being made. I know that they are all
based on lies and greed.
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- But I have yet to be able to identify who the people
are. That is after tracking this issue for 26 years. I know that there
are big secrets being kept and I know that it is time the public and decision-makers
pay attention to the people who are now going to be disclosing the truth.
Then we need to make some definite changes and build a system in space
that will benefit every single person, and all of the animals, and the
environment of this planet. The technology is there. The solutions to Earth's
urgent and long-term potential problems are there. I have a feeling that
once we start studying this extraterrestrial issue, all of the questions
are going to be answered that I have had for 26 years.
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- But I have concluded that it is based on a few people
making a lot of money and gaining power. It is about ego. It is not about
our essence and who we really are on this planet and loving each other
and being at peace and cooperating. It isn't about using technology to
solve problems and heal people in the planet. It isn't about that. It is
about a few people who really are playing an old, dangerous, costly game
for their own pocketbooks and power struggle. That is all it is.
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- I believe that this entire space-based weapons game is
initiated right here in the United States of America. What I hope is that
with this information that is being disclosed, the new administration will
to do what is right. That is to transform the war game into a space game
so that we use the technologies that are available not just as spin-offs
of war technology, but as direct technological applications to build a
cooperative space system that will benefit the entire world and that will
allow us to communicate with the extraterrestrial cultures that are obviously
out there.
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- Who would benefit from these space-based weapons? They
are the people who work in that arena, people in the military, in industries,
in universities and labs, in the intelligence community. This is not just
in the United States but it is worldwide. This is a worldwide cooperative
system. Wars are cooperative. Just as peace will be when it breaks out.
But right now there are a lot of people benefiting. This is what our economy
has been based on in this country and spreading around the world- war.
People suffer as a result. It is not fair. It never has been. People have
screamed: "out of swords let us build plow shares, let's have peace
and hold hands around the world," but it hasn't worked because too
many people are benefiting. Not only are they benefiting financially, but
from what my experience is there are people who actually believe that Armageddon
should happen so we have to have these wars.
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- So, it is going from the pocketbook, to the religious
right: some people actually believe that we have to have wars for these
religious reasons. There are people who just love war. I have met warriors
who just love to go to war. Then there are the good people, the soldiers,
who just take orders. They have to feed their children and send them to
college so they want to keep their jobs. People in laboratories have told
me that they don't want to work on these technologies for war but if they
don't they won't get a paycheck. Who is going to pay them? But what I see
is that there are not only dual uses for these technologies but there are
many uses for the same technologies.
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- We can build space hospitals, schools, hotels, laboratories,
farms, industries. It may sound far out but if we don't do that we are
going to build battle stations and weapons pointed down all of our throats
and into space. Apparently we have been doing some of that already. We
have a choice now that can be made. We can all benefit all of the
people in the military industrial complex, in the intelligence community,
in universities and labs, in the United States and all over the world
we can all benefit. We can just transform that industry so easily with
just a decision based on our highest consciousness, our spirituality, and
on the fact that we have no choice unless we all want to die. And we don't.
So we can all benefit financially, spiritually, socially, psychologically;
it is technologically and politically feasible to transform this game now
and everybody will benefit.
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- In 1977, I was at a meeting in Fairchild Industries in
a conference room called the War Room. In that room were a lot of charts
on the walls with enemies, identified enemies. There were other more obscure
names, names like Saddam Hussein and Khadafi. But we were talking then
about terrorists, the potential terrorists. No one had ever talked about
this before but this was the next stage after the Russians against whom
we were going to build these space-based weapons. I stood up in this meeting
and I said, "Excuse me, why are we talking about these potential enemies
against whom we are going to build space-based weapons if, in fact, we
know that they are not the enemy at this time?"
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- Well, they continued the conversation about how they
were going to antagonize these enemies and that at some point, there was
going to be a war in the Gulf, a Gulf War. Now this is 1977, 1977! And
they were talking about creating a war in the Gulf Region when there was
25 billion dollars in the space-based weapons program that had yet to be
identified. It wasn't called the Strategic Defense Initiative, at least.
Not until 1983. This weapons system, then, had obviously been going on
for some time and I didn't know anything about. So I stood up in this meeting
in 1977 and said, "I would like to know why we are talking about space-based
weapons against these enemies. I would like to know more about this. Would
someone please tell me what this is about?" Nobody answered. They
just went on with this meeting as though I hadn't said anything.
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- Suddenly, I stood up in the room and said, "If nobody
can tell me why you are planning a war in the Gulf when there is a certain
amount of money in a budget so that you can create the next set of weapons
systems that will be the beginning of the sell to the public about why
we need space-based weapons, then consider this: my resignation. And you
will not hear from me again!" And nobody said a word, because they
were planning a war in the Gulf and it happened exactly as they planned
it, on time.
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- The room was filled with people in the revolving door
game. There were people that I had seen once in a military uniform and
other times in a gray suit and an industry outfit. These people play a
revolving door game. They work as consultants, industry people, and/or
military and intelligence people. They work in the industries and they
revolve themselves through these doors and right into government positions.
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- I stood up in this meeting and asked if I was hearing
correctly. That when there was 25 billion dollars expended in the space-based
weapons budget, that there was going to be a war in the Gulf, stimulated,
created, so that they could then sell the next phase of weapons to the
public and the decision-makers. This war was going to be created so that
they could dump the old weapons and create a whole new set of weapons.
So, I had to resign from that position. I could no longer work in that
industry.
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- In about 1990, I was sitting in my living room looking
at the money that had been spent on space-based weapons research and development
programs and I realized that it had come to that number, about 25 billion
dollars, and I said to my husband, "I am now going to stop everything.
I am now going to stop and sit and watch CNN television and I am going
to wait for the war to happen." My husband said, "Well, you have
finally gone over the edge. You have flipped out." Friends said, "You
have really gone too far this time. There is not going to be a war in the
Gulf, nobody is talking about a war in the Gulf."
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- I said, "There is going to be a war in the Gulf.
I am going to sit here and wait for the war in the Gulf." And it happened
right on schedule.
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- As part of the war game in the Gulf, we in the public
were told that the United States was successful in shooting down Russian
Scud Missiles. We were rationalizing new budgets based on that success.
In fact, we found out later, after the budgets were approved for the next
phase of weapons, that it was a lie. We did not have successful shoot-downs
the way we were told. It was all a lie, just to get more money put in the
budget to make more weapons.
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- I was one of the first people to go independently to
Russia when I heard that they had "killer satellites."
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- When I went to Russia in the early 70's, I found out
that they didn't have killer satellites, that it was a lie. In fact, the
Russian leaders and people wanted peace. They wanted to cooperate with
the United States and with the people of the world...
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