The Holocaust[1] (spelled with a capital H) usually refers to the killing of six million Jews by the Nazis during World War II. It is supposed to be the German's "Final Solution" to the Jewish problem. Much of the systematic extermination was to have taken place in concentration camps by shooting, gassing, and burning alive innocent victims of the Third Reich.

 

 

Germar Rudolf, Ernst Zundel, Robert Faurisson, and others who do not believe this account and who dare to say so in public are reviled as bigots, anti-Semites, racists, and worse. Their alternate historical scenarios are not termed simply revisionist, but are demeaned as Holocaust denial.

 

 

Politicians pandering to the Jewish or Christian Zionist vote label Holocaust revisionist papers and conferences "beyond the pale of international discourse and acceptable behavior."[2] Non-Zionist Jews, like Rabbi Dovid Weiss of the Neturei Karta, are denounced as "self-haters" and are shunned and spat upon. Even Professor Norman Finkelstein, whose parents were both Holocaust survivors and who wrote the book, The Holocaust Industry, has been branded a Holocaust denier.

 

 

But putting aside the virile hate directed against those who question the veracity of the typical Holocaust narrative, what is it that these people believe and say at the risk of imprisonment and bodily harm? For most Holocaust revisionists, or deniers if you prefer, their arguments boil down to these three simple contentions:

 

 

1. Hitler's "Final Solution" was intended to be ethnic cleansing, not extermination.

 

2. There were no homicidal gas chambers used by the Third Reich.

 

3. There were fewer than 6 million Jews killed of the alleged 55 million who died in WWII.

 

 

Are these revisionist contentions so odious as to cause those who believe them to be reviled, beaten, and imprisoned? More importantly, is it possible that revisionist contentions are true, or even partially true, and that they are despised because they contradict the story of the Holocaust, a story which has been elevated to the level of a religion in hundreds of films, memorials, museums, and docu-dramas?

 

 

Is it sacrilegious to ask, "If Hitler was intent on extermination, how did Elie Wiesel, his father, and two of his sisters survive the worst period of incarceration at Auschwitz?" Wiesel claims that people were thrown alive into burning pits, yet even the Israeli- trained guides at Auschwitz do not make this claim.

 

 

Is it really "beyond international discourse" to question the efficacy and the forensic evidence of homicidal gas chambers? If other myths, like making soap from human fat, have been dismissed as Allied war propaganda, why is it "unacceptable behavior" to ask if the gas chamber at Dachau was not reconstructed by the Americans because no other homicidal gas chamber could be found and used as evidence at the Nuremburg trials?

 

 

For more than fifty years Jewish scholars have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to document each Jewish victim of the Nazi Holocaust. The Nazis were German, obsessed with record keeping.

 

Yet only 3 million names have been collected and many of them died of natural causes. So why is it so wrong to doubt that fewer than 6 million Jews were murdered in the Second World War?

 

 

"Holocaust Denial" might be no more eccentric or no more criminal than claiming the earth is flat, except that the Holocaust itself has been used as the sword and shield in the quest to build a Jewish state between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, where even today over half the population is not Jewish.

 

 

The Holocaust narrative makes Jews the ultimate victim no matter how they dispossess or dehumanize or ethnically cleanse the indigenous Palestinian people. The Holocaust narrative allows Yad Vashem, the finest Holocaust museum in the world, to repeat the mantra of "Never Forget" while it sits on Arab lands stolen from Ein Karem and overlooking the unmarked graves of Palestinians massacred by Jewish terrorists at Deir Yassin. The Holocaust story eliminates any comparison of Ketziot or Gaza to the concentration camps they indeed are.

 

 

The Holocaust is used to silence critics of Israel in what the Jewish scholar, Marc Ellis, has called the ecumenical deal: you Christians look the other way while we bludgeon the Palestinians and build our Jewish state and we won't remind you that Hitler was a good Catholic long before he was a good Nazi.

 

 

The Holocaust narrative of systematic, industrialized extermination has also been an important tool to drive the United States into Iraq and now into Iran. The title of the recent Israeli conference at Yad Vashem made this crystal clear: "Holocaust Denial: Paving the Way to Genocide."

 

 

"Remember the Holocaust" will be the battle cry of the next great clash of good (Judeo/Christian values) and evil (radical Islamic aggression) and those who question it must be demonized if not burned at the stake.

 

 

Daniel McGowan

Professor Emeritus

Hobart and William Smith Colleges

Geneva, NY 14456

mcgowan@hws.edu

 

 

[1] <https://webmail.hws.edu/exchange/mcgowan/Drafts/RE:%20Atrocity% 20Gods.EML/1_text.htm#_ftnref1> Holocaust. Dictionary.com. The American Heritage(r) New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2005. http:// dictionary.reference.com/browse/Holocaust <http:// dictionary.reference.com/browse/Holocaust> (accessed: February 09, 2007).

 

[2] <https://webmail.hws.edu/exchange/mcgowan/Drafts/RE:%20Atrocity% 20Gods.EML/1_text.htm#_ftnref2> http://clinton.senate.gov/news/ statements/details.cfm?id=268474 <http://clinton.senate.gov/news/ statements/details.cfm?id=268474> (accessed: February 09, 2007)

 

Comment

Jack Artz

 

3-28-7

 

Whereas, I appreciate your analysis of the record-keeping of the WWII camps in terms of calculating overall numbers, I find your analysis of Hitler's "ethnic cleansing" and the "homicidal gas-chambers" to be inadequate.

 

There were three administrations of the final solution, and you are only considering one of them. The Einsatzgruppen (4 battalion sized units) certainly dispatched plenty of people by shooting, although they didn't start with the Jews (but with the Poles) in 1939. Forced labor under the economic administration (W.V.H.A.) also accounts for a great number (See _The Good German_). Perhaps you could account for an additional 1-2 mil. with them, which added to the 3 mil. gets a number between 4-5 mil.

 

I, myself, tried to verify the built-in gas chambers at Birkenau (Auschwitz) in 1975, but whatever was there had been destroyed, and the ruins were too dangerous to walk into. Immediately I was skeptical. The fancy gas "Zyklon B" seemed too much. A more reasonable gas for homicidal purposes was carbon monoxide, and since motor vehicles generate it, mobile gas-vans were much more practical. The captured Soviet submarine diesel engine said to be used at Treblinka also seems more believable.

 

It should be remembered that the euthanasia program directed at the incurably sick and mentally ill started in December 1939 in Germany, when the policy towards the Jews was still concentration and expulsion. But the war eliminated the possibility that Jews could be expelled. Extermination became the logical solution, especially after the opening of the Eastern Front in June 1941. It seems that the euthanasia program was suspended in early 1941 due to protests from within Germany. Carbon Monoxide was the gas used in the euthanasia program. The technique of disguising the euthanasia facilities as baths was also pioneered there.

 

Governments for Vichy France and Slovakia at first believed that their Jews were being cleansed by the Nazis, when they were taken to be resettled in the East. But when these governments found out that those unfit for labor were being killed, and that those fit for labor were being worked to death, they stopped the deportations of their Jews. That is why a quarter million French Jews survived the war, despite Vichy's patent Jew hatred. 

 

The Final Solution has many nuances, and it's practical implementation worked out differently in the various European countries. But Hitler himself would be insulted to learn that historians like yourself are making him into a mincing moderate who tiptoed around with the niceties of ethnic cleansing.

 

Everything in the Third Reich was systematically lied about. Don't be taken in by those lies, just as you try to debunk Jewish exaggerations.

 

 

Comment

From Kieth Norman 
3-26-7

 

Daniel McGowan

Professor Emeritus

Hobart and William Smith Colleges

Geneva, NY 14456

mcgowan@hws.edu

What Does 'Holocaust Denial' Really Mean?

http://rense.com/general75/viv.htm

Daniel

Excellent presentation..

Abrupt,factual and in your face truth...I like it.. and without the now cursed and legacy of detailed Scientific and Technological truth that so many courageous researchers

have performed through many years of ridicule and derision of their Works.

So how does one get across the SLOWLY expanding truth to the people who may have the impetus and guile that does not fracture when subjected to the smear and the fear..

Possibly by constant and the perpetually throwing of truth/facts and information verifiable by dependable Internet research at reasonable people who could have a 'rolling down hill' affect that eventually will extend to others..

If the "Holocaust" tale is entrenched into the secular fabric of a few countries(and it is a powerful few) and I do not think it is...then it can be "opened" for inspection by the persistance of MANY MANY writers that fully understand the nature of clinical web research..The holocaust ironically, is written by the victors in this instance ,unlike the Armenian Christians,yet it is quietly coming to light as to the truth of events at that time in our history...How does one accelerate peacefully this truth process,distinguishing the fact from the lie.?

When one is "out there" by oneself at one moment in time ( e.g Mr Zundel and others),very visible and alone,then it is extremely comfortable and inviting for the attack dogs to snarl and bite and cause injury..

I would advocate/suggest, for starters, that the Academics of Historical and Literary Review and Composition(you blokes:-)) collaborate and write a paper(not unlike your recent exposé on Rense) with their name and qualifications fully visible in the CREDIT SECTION of said paper...The greater the credits and credentials ,the greater the impact..You can be guaranteed that many many websites would promote this work and I am sure that advanced web advertising(no fee) over a period of say 7-10 days would enhance the coming presentation and impact of said paper..The attack dogs and their scripted responses would be taking to task immediately by those that are your support team...The Internet Blogger..and anyone else who can hit a keyboard effectively...A little selected planning and cohesion can hound those attack dogs back into their habitations......lairs for lie-ers

We ALL from time to time repeat known and accepted facts that readers have just read on their previous website link..They are not necessarily 'stirred' by OUR rhetorical dramatisation of those truths/facts...WE need to change

Why not totally and CONTINUOUSLY discredit the BASIS of any lie that exudes from profiteering Politicians, Zionists,Academic assassins or shill 'Experts' etc etc ,..There are many more of us than there are of them..They can only but attempt to parse whatever may come their direction when their actions and words are under constant scrutiny..That means they need be "angered" or irritated  somehow...They and we, know ,that their communicative visibility is their one weakness that can be exploited until good reason can be agreed upon.

Possibly our biggest dilemma and non-understandable fact in this crazy world we live in, is WHY are SO MANY Politicians...Talking Heads and Academics.. et al....so fearful of the lobbying forces of evil..What is the this fear that dulls the logic and other senses of otherwise intelligent wo/men..Most people will apply a suitable name/tag to this paranoiac induced psychosis that these people fear .....then shut-up......They say every man has his price..Not if paid in dollars...So what is it that strikes intelligent people down so readily?? 

Do these evil forces have plans to blow-us-all-up(say)in Chicago or Baltimore or London or Moscow or Milan or Brisbane or Paris or Berlin or Vienna or Belfast etc...Or can they do it ALL at the very same instant...at the push of a button...or a zipper on a suitcase....For that would be the ONLY scenario for these politicians etc to be that fearful and cowardly...UNLESS ALL their children and families have been directly targeted at the very same moment in time?..This is the underlying question that all must address...Why are they acting with such strangeness.

Do we know the weakness of our enemy..YES indeed...Not so much as their truth and lie in ethnicity and truth itself ,but the mental strain necessary in perpetuating their conviction..We should go after it with THE TRUTH and pour it on until they cannot accept the flood....Blow them out of the waters...metaphorically speaking of course:-))

What follows is an attempt in rooting out the basic elements of "cause" that which has stimulated anguish and uncertainty for thousands of years.

It compliments Daniel's detailed defense of the patrioteer "denier" and those other brave citizens,web-masters and academics that speak out and speak often.

The 'Jew' and the 'Celt'(to a lesser extent)

The "Jew" forfeited their right to goodness and truth,(NOT the likes of Rabbi Dovid Weiss or the Neturei Karta and many non-Zionist Jews) the day they visited the taverns and whorehouses of Sodom,Gomorrah,Hollywood/Vine and Tel Aviv

Lets NEVER FORGET (Just be remindful) that the "Jews" were non-existent in that name until 1775AD with the amendment to the first English Bible translations( The Wiclif) in the 14th century which was finally completed in the KJV of 1611AD...It is an English translation/description of those that opposed,smeared and eventually crucified Jesus...At that time no tribe, cult or sect existed by such a name ..."jew"

From the 4th century Vulgate Latin "Iudaeus" and the Greek "Ioudaios".... to the 18th century...the English "jew" included and was called successively: "Gyu", "Giu", "Iu", "Iuu", "Ieuy", "Iuw", "Ieuu", "Iwe", "low", "Iewe", "Ive","Ieue", "Iue", "", "lew", and eventually in 1775, "Jew".

The earlier English translations for through 343AD were "Giwis", "Giws", "Geus", "Gyues", "Gywes", "Giwes", "Iuys", "Iows", "Iouis", "Iews", and then finally in the 18th century, "Jews".. That period in the Historical calender was from the Old Briton (Welsh) and Germanic(AngloSaxon-English) to (say)pre-Victorian English.

As a sidebar and possibly extremely interesting...During the initial battles in 354AD between the invading Germanic AngloSaxons(the "English") and the Britons of Britain(the Welsh)...The Kymru(Welsh) of the mid 4th century actually referred to the English marauders as the Giwis or Gyues..An interesting snippet of Dark Age historical fact.

Furthermore..Shakespeare wrote in the Merchant of Venice....(SHYLOCK.)...

"What is the reason?.. I am a Iewe, hath not a Iewe eyes?" ..and that was the around that period the KJB was originally published (Shakespeare died in 1616AD on the same date he was born).

Throughout the history of time and documented references of the so called "Ashkenazi jew",be they in poems,writings,religious records or census undertakings,British historical literary fact is laced with the above progressive alternative naming of the Ashkenazim.

Whats in a word...How many people know that the word "Celt" or "Celtic" was introduced by the English ..also in the 18th century....Yet many British Historians(tenured of course) still insist that they were in Britain for at least 2000 years...There were NEVER any Celts in Britain EVER ...This is what the dusted archives admissible to the search engines is finding for those that can access privileged libraries....IF people knew their history they would realise that there were the Britons of Britain(the Welsh) ...the Anglo Saxons (the English) and the Picti(Scots)..There MAY have been some Celtic tribes in Ireland that provided the Picti their eventual name "Scotti"?..So one can envisage the political clambering for "getting the house in order" in the 17th and 18th centuries....Now we have the Internet...at least, for the time being

KJB and the word "Jew"

John did not put it there..

Mark did not put it there..

Matthew did not put it there..

Luke did not put it there...

Neither did ...Augustine....Bede....Caradoc....Linus....King Henry the 4th,7th or 8th(16th century KJB financiers..and James)....Richard III...Moses... David.. Solomon...Rabbi Bernstein... Canute.... Beowulf....King Alfred...Luther....Hengist.... Gildas...Josephus.... Bran......or any of the historical Popes...

The outcast and lonely Ashkenazim Jew of the 18th century put it there, so as to fraudulently associate themselves with what they knew were the real people of Israel..

They did not do it from ignorance..They fully understood the Torah, MIshna,Gemara and Talmud better than any other ..

The question should be asked...Why did so many Teutonic religiously devout Brits and Germans of the Christian faith leave their homeland to find a new beginning in the Americas in the 17th and 18th centuries.....King George was mad??...I don't think so...Maybe it was the political influence and pre-emptive rendering leading up to the 'Herzl' philosophy

I can fully understand and agree with peoples apprehension in seeing the KVB revised...For the political whores of today would not be able to resist the temptation of "Religious PorkBarrel funding" into that Holy Book..... Foxman and Co would be salivating at the starters gate

The ancient peoples that had Jesus put to death were not the "Judeans" that follow the "Torath Yahve"(Torah or the Tanach)..but the Pharisees..aka Talmudic Zionists in today's descriptive..So now one can see the rationale why some real "Jews" cannot stand Zionists and their Talmudic Text of Hate and Incest (3 years and 1 day indeed).

Again, how many people are aware that the Vulgate Latin and Greek translation into English on THAT cross reads... "Jesus the Nazarene Ruler of the Judeans" AND NOT "Jesus..King of the Jews"....again I suggest people do their own research and try to keep an open mind as the truth is hesitant when fronted with a closed door....It is they that will be aggravated when the truth eventually slaps them on the cheek and they just get annoyed with it..Truth and facts always brings out the anger that flushes through the veins of every Zionist Talmudic believer..The TRUTH really does hurt at times and I fully understand that emotional collapse..

The Judeans practiced "Judaism"..a word non-existent in that era...but provided by the Jewish General and traitor Flavius Josephus to his Roman pay-masters to distinguish it with Christianity and eventually Islam....Todays Zionist practices Pharisaism...the constantly rabbinical modified 'Babylonian' Talmud...Those that attempt to weld Talmud and Judaism together only invites scorn,sadness and the label "thief"... It is those Talmudic practices and the 63 Books(and increasing) that is the requirement for being thrown out of nearly every country in the World....not the Torah/Tanach abiding Jews..Yet the Torahical people have suffered these last two thousand years due to Pharasitic genetic sicknesses. The Zionist is caught in the process of stealing the Jewish religious philosophy and using it for political and territorial gain....and the Internet is ensuring that they realise this theft.

Palestine

From the "Online Etymology Dictionary"

"from L. Palestina (name of a Roman province), from Greek. Palaistine (Herodotus), from Hebrew. Pelesheth "Philistia, land of the Philistines." Revived as a political territorial name 1920. "

Palestine was already there and very much in the news for many years... way before Arafat had a dream..The Arabs and the minority Jews were very contented (prior)..They lived next door to each other and visited the market places together ..........until the BritJews and EuroJews ,"the Ashkenazim", broke yet another covenant ,this time with the Brits.(See the Balfour Agreement)

"British Foreign Office.

November 2nd, 1917.

Dear Lord Rothschild.

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:

His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country"".

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely

Arthur James Balfour"

Palestinians( Philistines) were very much prominent right from the beginning... see Genesis

Their complete defragmentation,dispersement and marginalisation may have confused many bais religious minds through-out the passage of the historical ancients..The Palestinians were just as semitic as the 90% + Ashkenazi Jews of today..Is the Zionists of the Christian Zionist partnership semitic or of another stripe??...So one can say that they (the Palestinians)have been in the "Holy Land"...from day one

The Brits were totally aware in the 18th century that Palestinians and JUDEANS lived and worked side by side in what was called Palestine..There was NEVER any conflict during that period of time..There were no Zionist "Jews" in Palestine in the 18th century...This can be Googled and related to the 18th century

Never Forget

WE should NEVER FORGET..(Just remember) that this word "Jew" was ORIGINALLY applied by the Brits in the 18th century in the English language in their Revised KJV Bible Texts and Encyclopedias and there were NO Sephardic Judeans in Britain and/or Europe at that time..at least other than the Marranos(Jewish convert to Jesus)

The Brits,during their historical evolution, applied the name "jews" ONLY to Eastern Europeans that had taken the faith of Judiasm in the 8th century as a political move so that the King of the Khazars would not anger the many Muslim and Christian peoples of that period ..The Khazar KIng brought many Rabbis from Mesopotamia for the purpose of religious education... This can be "Googlised" and verified from may sources

If ever, purely for arguments sake ,one were to accept that the "Ashkenazim" were the descendants of the Biblical period then if one were to say nasty thingys about same..one would expect to be called an anti-Japetite or anti-Gomerite...not anti-Semite..(see below..Genesis 10:1-8 )..For the Ashkenazim,which is how the Jewish Encyclopedia refers to the 90%+ are descendants from Japeth and Gomer.....NOT from Shem ,who were actually called Shemites until corruption of translation raised its ugly head.

Similarly..an American citizen would call someone "anti-American" if their people was scorned by someone who was not an American ...not anti-Christian or anti-Brit or anti-Islamic or anti German or anti-Jew..

That weather beaten "anti-Semite" tag is so pathetically offered by Talmudic Zionists today that even Abe Foxman is considering rendering it obsolete...For Abe fully comprehends that there are 90%+ Ashkenazis posing as "descendant jews" .. spread all over this wonderful world of ours..Most of these Ashkenazim are good people,but are NOT Semitic peoples..While very few descendants from Biblical Times still exist..maybe an handful...

How many Americans realise even today(with the Internet) that the 101 Airborne and the 22nd SAS(Brits) ran through the 'town' in Iraq where Abraham was born .......1..2..3..4..??..

The religious teachers did not provide geography classes to their congregations..It was not taught until such time as when parishioners started to ask questions..and even then they did not tell their parishioners the truth.

The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia :

Quote..

"The primary meaning of Ashkenaz and Ashkenazim in Hebrew is Germany and Germans. This may be due to the fact that the home of the ancient ancestors of the Germans is Media, which is the Biblical Ashkenaz...Krauss is of the opinion that in the early medieval ages the Khazars were sometimes referred to as Ashkenazim...About 92 percent of all Jews[today] or approximately 14,500,000 are Ashkenazim." ..end Quote

The ancient ancestoral home of the Ashkenazim is Media..indeed..That has a ring of journalistical truth about it..as it not?

Note!..Only descendants of Shem are "Semites"(Shemites)...see below from the Old Testament

Genesis 10:1-8...

1 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah...Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

2 The sons of Japheth....Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

3 And the sons of Gomer....Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

4 And the sons of Javan...Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.

5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.......et al

"Christian Zionist"..Do people really not appreciate, that this would be the ultimate oxymoron.

The word "Zionist" is not even mentioned in the Old or the New Testament..It eventually came into being 600 hundreds years after the Ashkenazi Jews had been thrown out of the ..

British Isle by Edward 1 because of blood rituals (alleged) and excessive usury, which Edward was really responsible for..They were gone for almost 400 years ...Eventually they begged re-entry to Oliver Cromwell, who without committee approval gave them the okay while ignoring the outrage of the British Clergy and committee members in that era...

I know that some people may say that these are not the Jews that they necessarily represent or agree with..However(always one of these),within this cluster of 'immigrants',over the next two hundred years these immigrants( pre-Zionists) formulated a political system that evolved into "Theodore Herzl and his cruel and despicable philosophy of "antisemitism" and stipulating maximum suffrage for the jewish people which led to the assassination and blackwash of everything Palestinian

The western "Zionists" (Herzl and Co) were out voted and out-maneuvered by the eastern "Zionist" Jew....the Bolshevik's ....who I should remind people were DIRECTLY responsible for the deaths of over 20 million Russian CHRISTIANS and 7-10 million Ukraine'e's ..So where indeed is the honest relationship between the Zionist and the Christian...(See released Russian archives)..Honesty is Truth is it not...Google this ..It is all there in coloured pixels

It is the very same Soviet Zionists(descendants of) that are currently bedding the Christians in a relationship that was doomed from the start...and only the Zionists and Christians leaders know that fact...But it provides them with authority, wealth and 'respect' within their communes.

The "Christian Zionist" (around 40 million), are primarily in the Southern United States and represents a very small portion of all Christianity (1.3 Billion)...Does this not indicate some form of manipulation and brainwash by those that cannot exist in the greater scheme of events.

Semantics or Semitics

As already said...Ashkenazim Jews represents over 90% of all jews in the world today and none of them or their descendants are from the Holy Land..They are/were,principally, from(as EVERYBODY knows..or should be aware) Russia-Ukraine-Poland and Germany . However, the Sephardim Jews(more ethnic than the Ashkenasim will ever be) are regarded today by the Ashkenazi Zionists Jews as part of the lower class in the Holy Land(Canaan)...In Israel today, an Ashkenazim marrying a Sephardim is totally frowned upon....

So if one wants to assume by default of convenience but lacking in Religious and Historical Truth and accuracy that Jesus was also an Ashkenazi and thereby a "Jew"..then one should heed the warnings of Matthew writings...This is one of the biggest mistakes that Evangelical Christians, almost entirely in the USA are making today....They are supporting the "wrong jew crowd"

This is the problem, in that the greater part of the people whose faith evolved within the Tanakh/OldTestament believes that the Almighty discontinued his promise to the Jewish peoples because of their sinful transgressions..The greater part of the Christian Community accepts this interpretation...The "re-iteration" is balanced by the "nuancing" within both bibles....Protestants and other factions of Christianity always wonder "whatever happened to Hagar" (Abraham's Arab wife)..after the book of Genesis...no word no trace..Was she marginalised.......History repeating itself ??..What word did they use at that time I wonder..as "anti-Semitism" was not born until the late 1800's

Jesus was a Judean and studied the Torah...Jesus was not a Pharasitic "Jew" for they studied the Pharisee's Talmud

Semantics..I really do not think so..He that says so,is afraid of the implications in todays world..Truth can be subjected to euthanasia..but one cannot kill it.

There should be NO AFFECT on a Christian's religious belief, for the only mistake that they may have made is that they got off the bus at the wrong stop....and now the hard slog in walking all the way back home...But maybe the Lord will guide those footsteps this time

For many,this simple fact of truth in historical revisionism is understandably extremely differcult to live with or digest...It does not however excuse us from seeking that Truth..

Honesty is Truth and no memory is necessary when applied..

The most worrying aspect of all this "functioning religious" allegiance to Israel is that the brainwashing is complete and has to be leached from the mindset...That could be quite unmanageable . Maybe a thousand Psychologists and Psychopharmacologists could work out a solution:-)

The Ashkenazis were a warring peoples from the Khazarian area of Ukraine, Russia and Poland .....and many of todays important Historical Religious people know this ..They must come to grips with it now, for they will knowingly corrupt that which is the truth for their children and their children's children.Else the children will depend on the Search Engines for Truth

Lets recap

Jesus was a Judean born to Judean parents who lived in Judea ..Jesus was taught Judaism

The Hebrew word for Spain is "Sephardi" ...The Hebrew word for Germany.is Ashkenazi"

Ashkenazim Jews(the vast majority of Jews) are from Germany and France .and have no religious connection whatsoever with the Biblical Ashenazi..(descendants of Gomer and Japeth)...Sephardim Jews are from Portugal and Spain... and the Mizrachim Jew is of Northern African and Middle Eastern decent..Both the latter are of the Sephardic tribe

For many peoples, if their spiritual propositions are to stand the historical test of time and truth ,then there is a need to disassociate the "Ashkenazim" from the "Jew" peg and then one can call Jesus a Jew...or specifically differentiate the meaning of "Judean" and "Jew"..When scholars or laymen perpetuate the lie by ignoring the facts on the ground then possibly it is because it is upsetting to their local Pastor and/or having to perform a minor rewrite of the KJB...Just think how wealthy they could become the second time around with their revamped books at Amazon.com 

The Christian peoples and to a lesser extent ,the Jewish scholars of the Torah and Tanach, have nothing whatsoever to trouble themselves with, if they really are of the Old Testament spirit...only to forgive those that has trespassed.."the Zionist Jews"

If people get the opportunity to read the translations of the 'real' Scrolls of Quran they will be even prouder in spirit and faith..Most "Jews" avoid that opportunity as small fragments confirms most of what has been said about the prophets and the coming of and existence of Jesus...Ever wondered why Hollywood or ANY other major main stream Producer or Director has never made a movie about those scrolls..Spielberg wanted to, but it took THREE Rabbis to convince him otherwise and had to settle with fictitious religious events.."Schindlers list" etc..He has actually admitted this..

And what may be the cause of all this conflict today some may ask......Internet Search Engines.

The pedagogues(teachers of the young)of the past have been passing down their interpretation of what they have been taught by other teachers who...et al... etc..etc

Now, the child or wo/man in the street can access all that they require to feel inwardly comfortable with truth and that it may have some semblance of truth with what the historical archivist's treasures hold..There is so much data and information unavailable at this point in time, that the method in bringing this information forward is very much guarded due to the covert/overtness of so-called "Search Engines"...and their sinister private foundations.

With that firmly in mind, can I assume that people understand the rationale for the plundering,stealing and destruction of the Iraqi Museums and Libraries in the first 3 weeks of GW2 in 2003...and not by American Troops either, but people who fully comprehended the importance of ancient manuscripts and artifacts and how they really reflect on the three religions of today..Christianity Judaism and Islam..This 'surge' of potential artifact violence was discussed at length by Coll-Univ.Academics prior to the invasion of Iraq,yet could not get it into committee due to the overpowering and deliberate increase in AIPAC lobbying.

I can understand peoples shock at this sudden exposure to historical fact..But truth must be orderly else the young will never learn that truth...

Quote..

"This author has not been able to locate any written or recorded sources utilizing the term Judeo-Christianity,prior to 1940 the term itself seems to be a modern invention and one forced on Christians via the media and Jewish influence..... Abe Foxman, Director of the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish Supremacist organization, reinforces this fact in his propaganda laced diatribe "NEVER AGAIN", when he reveals on page 146 that he got Jerry Falwell, a well known Christian evangelist to agree to use the term Judeo-Christian, rather than the exclusive "CHRISTIAN" when referring to the foundation of the United States of America, i.e. This is a Christian Nation."..end Quote...........Chris Womak ..who has a blogspot site

Genesis 10...31-32..

"These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations......These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood."

From the Genesis passage above,why would religious and historical and linguistic scholars even consider that there was only one land/nation and only one peoples..Think about it

kieth norman

Comment

From Kieth Norman

2-5-7

 

In defence of Prof Daniel McGowan..not that he needs it.

 

 

Mr Artz comment endeavours to introduce a "new thinking tool" into an otherwise aging homogeneous polynomial equation (the Holocaust) that must be factorised toward a constant (RH side) answer:

 

6 Million.  That manifestly necessitates the expulsion of ALL that has been amassed (since 1945) within the Scientific and Engineering Research establishments.

Why would Mr Schwartz attempt to persuade readers that the Scientific Engineering Community and the Mathematicians should get their calculators out...yet again...set them to zero.and recalculate the Carbon Monoxide emissions of a 1941 converted German gas CAR ("murder vans" - dushegubk) and a 16ft x 8ft x 8ft trailer with "70-80" people inside (Nuremberg Trials) or a "Russian submarine" (per Mr Artz), when the Germans had thousands of trucks running around the country-side which were fitted with endothermic (wood charcoal) gas generators that are specifically designed to provide a constaqnt ratio gas-to-air mixture for uniform gas chemistry...making Carbon Monoxide?

 

 

Gas and Diesel cars and truck emissions in the 1940s were NOT conducive to efficient fuel burning to produce concentrations of carbon monoxide effective enough to do what is alleged to have been done by Mr Artz (nuanced).. Yet, the Nuremberg trials speak of them. How many times and how many Scientists and Engineers does it take to convince the laymen that the Nuremberg Prosecutors were offering and repeating words of tortured prisoners? Listen and read the reports from the now "liberated" Russian archives...a present from Mr Putin.

The Trial of Adolf Eichmann...Session 87...Trial starts April 11, 1961

 

 

ACCUSED (Dr. Servatius) Quote:  "....I saw two medium-sized peasants' cottages, which were being worked on by a captain in the Order Police, whom I found in his shirt-sleeves. He told me that he had to seal these cottages hermetically, and that the Jews were to be gassed here by means of a Russian Submarine motor.  I did not see any more there - the installation was not yet operating. I returned to Berlin, where I reported and, in accordance with instructions, notified my superior, Gruppenfuehrer Mueller, as well as the Chief of the Security Police and the Security Service of what I had seen." end of Quote. POOF goes the cottage industry theory of 'mass' destruction.

There are many "Deniers" for and against who complicate the issues at hand...some deliberately, others unknowingly. It is these people whom the Truth is thrown at...on certain occasions, in a manner that appears abrupt and disingenuous. They replicate the lessons of those who benefit from conflict and confusion.

Is Mr Artz aware that Dr's Shermer and Grubman of 2000 AD Treblinka Research fame were offered $100,000 from a party of "deniers" in 2003 for their proof of the Treblinka holocaust? They refused to publish and/or share that information with other academics. Let us also not forget, that Germany's accusers never wished to implement a forensic investigation of any alleged gas chambers. Why? is a simple question to ask.

 

 

An historian once said..."Everybody familiar with the normal rules of court proceedings knows that physical evidence is greatly superior to eyewitness testimony, since an eyewitness may lie or err in good faith.." Currently, the most overwhelming physical evidences do not privilege the Holocaust Industry. Dollars aside, obviously.

Mr Artz said to the Professor:  "The Final Solution has many nuances, and it's practical implementation worked out differently in the various European countries. But Hitler himself would be insulted to learn that historians like yourself are making him into a mincing moderate who tiptoed around with the niceties of ethnic cleansing. "

Indeed. it now appears that Mr Artz has taken for granted that the unknown nuances are yet to be conceptualised/invented...and in good time, will bear witness that the Reds, Brits and Yanks complete exoneration from WW2 will be vindicated. History is the memory bank of Mother Nature and I fear that old mother nature is not content with anything but the TRUTH.

 

 

Mr Hitler, believe it or not, knew a man by the name of "George Orwell" (yes, that one). It was at the Nuremberg trials in 1946 that Eric Arthur Blair (George) started to write his social justice "1984" and completed it in 1949. So, having died prior to Orwell's "New-speak" ambiguous and contradictory language, maybe Der Fuhrer would not know what the hell you were talking about...Mr Artz.

Mr Artz said to the Professor:

"Everything in the Third Reich was systematically lied about. Don't be taken in by those lies, just as you try to debunk Jewish exaggerations."

Here we are...the Linguistics Of the Lost (LOL). The post and pre-Orwellian unabridged version. Its "lies" for one group and "exaggerations" for the other. The reader can see the "nuancing" here, I suspect. Can ANYONE who may be reading this comment suggest, per chance, one, two or possibly three VIPs today, sitting on their throne of expectations, who would even attempt to tell their citizens ANYTHING that resembles the TRUTH?

 

 

History ALWAYS repeats herself. So, the Third Reich reference is a genuinely redundant statement. So we must ALL not "be taken in by those lies."

Without malice or intent to injure

Kieth Norman