- Please understand that this is a transcript made directly
from a live radio interview. It may not conform to exemplary standards
of grammar. Mr. Von Buelow's first language is German.
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- Alex Jones: All right my friends. We are already into
the third and final hour of this global transmission against tyranny.
And, in the last hour we had Hutton Gibson, expert on the New World Order
and of course father of Mel Gibson, on talking about the different key
issues. In this hour, we are joined by Andreas von Bulow and he was the
federal Minister of Defense, or the equivalent of our Secretary of Defense,
been in the German government since the 70s. And up until just a few years
ago he was also the Minister of Technology and he has written a book that
according to Reuters is the best seller in Germany that translates into
9-11 and the CIA., And he's not the only German minister who has said we
are looking at world fascism here and a powerful military industrial complex
institution engineering terror attacks to scare us into submission. And,
Andre von Bulow, err Andreas von Bulow, we are so honored to have a man
of your stature and obvious intelligence and your courage on this show.
Thank you for joining us.
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- Andreas von Bulow: Hello and it's wonderful speaking,
yes.
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- AJ: Uh, we're going to break here in a few minutes and
come back in a longer segment but for those who just joined us, tell us
a little bit more about yourself and your book please.
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- AvB: Well I...I have spent over twenty-five years in
politics and now I am out. And in the end I was Minister of Technology
before I was Secretary of Defense. Then I had to deal in a commission
on East-West transactions about the secret service of East Germany. And
this was very interesting inside story because of the Western side doing
deals violating the laws in Eastern Eur, err, East Germany, European Community
and the United States. It was always two parts dealing with East and West
and this bought me a lot of insights in the secret service business.
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- AJ: And in fact I remember reading about the huge investigations
you did that was massive international headlines concerning the Stasi and
how different governments had actually been working with these people.
If you would like you are of course welcome to get into that as well.
Again folks, the equivalent secretary of defense, minister of defense
of Germany, and of course technology, the head of that. Just absolutely
amazing. Your best selling book, and I wish there was an English translation
because I would certainly buy one. My wife does read German. But please,
tell us about your book.
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- AvB: I was writing another book and then 9-11 happened.
And it was strange to me watching- we all were horrified what was going
on and said well that's impossible, how could a crew of people manage do
such horrible things? At the first hours, we didn't know who was it, then
within hours it came out that probably Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda was
behind it. And then within two or three days these 19 people came out.
And my objection was- my looking at it- to whom does it bring good? And
I found out that it is rather damaging to the Islamic world and perhaps
it might be not only be a terrorist attack but perhaps it might be a covert
operation. I watched the scenery, what was going on, what the American
government-
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- AJ: Minister, minister, we've got to break; we'll be
back in three minutes. Absolutely, we'll go into this in great detail.
We are honored to have you. We're talking to Andreas von Bulow. We'll
be back. (Fade to bumper music)
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- AJ: That's right my friends it's eight minutes ten seconds
into this 3rd hour of global transmission. I am so honored to have on
Andreas von Bulow former German defense minister, head of their defense
department and of course until just a few years ago, head of their technology
system which is, that is a very high level post, just as high level as
defense minister there in Deutschland. And he's written a best selling
book and I,ve read some quotes out of it that have been translated into
English. And the title translated is 911 and the CIA., And he lays out
the evidence of the military-industrial complex carrying out the attacks.
Also we have lined up Michael Micher. And he of course was the English
environmental minister who resigned over Tony Blair's fraud. He has written
articles saying that if they didn't carry it out, they certainly funded
and allowed them to take place. So, if you,ve got a brain, it's clear,
and Mr. von Bulow, very intelligent individual has gone over this. So,
sir, you,ve said that on the day of the event you began to look at it,
you began to research it. And, from your specific expertise in intelligence
and military and technology, you know heading up entire sectors of the
world's third largest economy. Please discuss for us your research and
how you wrote the book and what really happened on 9-11.
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- AvB: 911, I just watched the scenery. And I said there
must have- gone something very [wrong]. I watched the TV for example and
in the same minute that the TV showed the planes driving into the World
Trade Center, you found these Palestinians dancing and laughing (in the
occupied territories). And a few days later one could find out that this
was fake. It was made by a TV crew of the defense ministry in Israel and
they gave candies to the people and they laughed about it. And, nobody
told it. And the question for me was who brought this TV stuff right in
time into the national networks like CNN and CBS and so on and so on.
And then we look for the, the story came out that this had been done by
bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda and these 19 people of Muslim background, which
did this. And you could watch the Persian journalist, and nobody showed
up. Not one Arabic name was showing up there. And then one is interested
to see video because all these 19 passengers must have passed the video,
a lot of video cameras in Dallas, and New York, and Logan in Boston, and
Portland in the North. You don't get this stuff. And then we're looking
for the black boxes and we don't get them. And the story how these, these
World Trade Center buildings broke down, they were constructed against
an approach by airplanes. And, the firemen of New York, they were able
to come to the floor where the fires were burning, and they said, the fire
commander said he needed two teams, small, to fight these fires and then
it's finished. So the heat, it is impossible that the heat was as high
as it has been written in the papers and in all the media.
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- AJ: And then, and then the feds declared that all firefighter
tapes malfunctioned, turns out that wasn't true; we've got copies of them.
And it did say that the firefighters said the fires were out or almost
out. There is video of people standing in the holes of the buildings with
no fire around them. And we're going to go over the evidence that's in
your book, sir, and why you came to these educated conclusions.
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- AvB: Yes.
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- AJ: But, first I want to ask you: have you heard the
new developments, the owner of the World Trade Center slipped up on TV
and said that they blew Building Seven up. The forty-seven story building
that wasn't even hit by an aircraft. This just broke two weeks ago, have
you heard this?
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- AvB: Sure, I have heard this. I follow the whole scenery.
Normally, it's coming out in Germany, but it's coming out in your country.
It's a fascinating background to, to do research via Internet because all
this stuff is broadly spread over the Internet. So it's very easy to follow,
but in the main media you don't get to hear about this.
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- AJ: Well, tell you what, later this hour, it's only three
minutes of audio clips, we will air from the PBS documentary America Rebuilding,,
where they admit they blew up WTC 7. Now, that's important because they
said that building fell from fire even though it wasn't hit by a plane.
And now, he slips up and says we decided to demolish it on 9-11, but then
the mainstream media just ignores that. This is a public admission, sir.
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- AvB: Yeah, yeah especially that the CIA headquarters
in New York was in, was within this building. I think the- how do you
call it- the emergency center for the governor, the major, err, mayor was-
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- AJ: Mayor and governor.
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- AvB: -mayor was in this building. So, it was not hit
by a plane, and the fire was very low. And the surrounding steel constructions
were left over and didn't collapse. But, the Building 7 collapsed in late
afternoon at 5 o'clock I think.
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- AJ: Well, from our internal sources, they were running
the attacks sir, out of the building and so conveniently got rid of the
evidence in one fell swoop.
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- AvB: This is one theory, it might be. It's convincing
but one has to get the whole proof. But the problem is that the elements
for proof are destroyed.
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- AJ: Also-
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- AvB: You will find them in Japanese cars and in ships
of the American Navy.
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- AJ: Also, sir, we have NORAD standing down for an hour
and twenty five minutes but when we had the golfer Payne Stewart went off
course for fifteen minutes, he was surrounded in eighteen minutes by five
F-16s so why did NORAD stand down?
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- AvB: Well, this is a big question because it happened
in 2001 more than 60 times. That, fighter[s] went up to clear what has
been done to airplanes that showed some irregularities. At 9-11, four planes
for two hours were able to drive around, fly around even one hour in the
direction going toward the west and then turn around and then comeback.
The military air force was not able to interdict them. It's [un]imaginable.
And the whole story is totally unclear what happened between the Federal
Aviation Agency (Administration) and NORAD.
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- AJ: Absolutely, now I don't know if you,ve seen the associated
press but the CIA was running a drill 15 miles from the World Trade Center
that day of flying jets into buildings in New York and DC. My internal
sources inside the Pentagon, the lawyers who represent them have said on
this show that they were told to stand down because it was quote just a
drill., That's how you get the good military to stand down; you tell them
it's just a drill. And, that drill was going on at 830 in the morning.
Is that not obvious, sir?
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- AvB: It's quite obvious, yeah. It's quite, it's so strange
and the most strange thing for me is that after two years you don't have
a white book which is documenting everything. If you are looking for the
timetable for example you have to make a medium between two or three or
five newspapers and radio and TV announcements. So everything is unclear.
On the other hand, the American government is running as the call it a
world war against possibly sixty nations without really showing the background
of 9/11. It's- for me, it's impossible.
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- AJ: Now by that they admit that nine of the nineteen
hijackers, the BBC says seven but it's nine, are still alive. Bin Laden
has not been convicted, bin Laden is known CIA, you,ve got [George H. W.]
Bush meeting with the head bin Laden that morning in DC at the Ritz Carleton,
you,ve got the General of Pakistan, the head of their intelligence, meeting
with the House and Senate chairs of the intelligence committee at 8:30
that morning, his second trip in his life to the United States. You,ve
got the FBI paying for the houses, the cars, the credit cards of the supposed
hijackers. I mean, sir, you start- you,ve got public officials, Mayor
Willie Brown, Joint Chiefs of Staff told not to fly to New York that day.
That's all admitted; what do you say to that?
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- AvB: Well, it's all admitted. So for me, since the official
version- it's not credible at all, it's totally incredible. The second
solution for me is a covert operation. And this is a way to influence,
to brainwash the American people into long, long, ongoing conflict with
the Muslim world and all that you get to, for example the oil companies,
the last oil reserves which we need for the next decades before the oil
age is going out. And probably behind this is a geopolitical thinking
that finally China has to be taken out. China is too big and you have
to be able to- this is put down in the New American Century, which has
been written by a lot of people who are now in government like Cheney,
like Rumsfeld and others.
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- AJ: And now, sir, we've got to break. We're going to
get into the Project for a New American Century and Operation Northwoods.
Were you aware of a US government plan to carry out 9-11 style attacks?
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- AvB: You mean, Northwoods?
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- AJ: Yes, sir.
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- AvB: Yeah sure I know.
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- AJ: Is that not a key piece of evidence?
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- AvB: Well, this is a key piece, a key piece of evidence
of the thinking of probably the military in dialogue with politics. Probably,
I think Kennedy decided not to do it but I think it was, it was all of
the-
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- AJ: Tell you what, stay there. We've got to break; we'll
be right back folks. (Fade to music)
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- AJ: All right my friends, I'm Alex Jones your host.
For the rest of the hour we are honored to have Andreas von Bulow, former
Defense Secretary and former head of technology, Department of Technology
in Germany. And he's just gotten out of government a few years ago and
he's just written a best selling book 9-11 and the CIA, and we have info
on that at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. We will also be posting
this interview on the Website in the next few days as well. There are
so many facets to this- Mr. von Bulow, continuing with you waking up to
what happened on 9-11 and researching it, what are some of the other key
points that clearly show that it is impossible that these nineteen people
did this; we know that is a fraud. It is a conspiracy theory to say that
they did it alone. From your intensive research and your understanding
of high-level government activities, what do you think really happened
on 9-11?
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- AvB: Well, nobody can prove what happened 9-11 directly
because it has been a covert operation and you don't find proof; you will
find only indications. And one of the indications- the indication that
everything is right with these nineteen people and Usama bin Laden is that
the government is free to show all the prove that is on the table that
is on the street that lays on the ground of the World Trade Center and
so on and so on. If you have a covert operation the probability is always
that the leftover pieces of proof are taken away immediately and a lot
of secrecy, a band of secrecy, has taken over everything. And, this has
happened with 9-11.
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- AJ: And that also happened- where you aware the New York
Times and Chicago Tribune reported this in 93, the FBI cooked the bomb
and trained the driver[s] and had an Egyptian security agent doing it for
them, had two retarded Muslims, literally retarded, drive the truck and
park it, let the bombing go forward. At Oklahoma City, the same company
that destroyed the remnants of the World Trade Center, blew up the remnants
of Oklahoma City [and] had that buried under machine gun guard at a private
landfill to this day. And they hauled the rubble away from the W T C to
China! They wouldn't let you take photographs. Yes, exactly.
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- AvB: Yeah, then at the beginning the engineers weren't
allowed to go up to the steel truss [debris] and had a lot of problems-
there was very scarce money. And you know, to clear up the story with
Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, the Republican majority gave out sixty
million dollars, I think it's seventy now, and they started out with 600
000 dollars to try to figure out what happened on 9-11. And, they were
taken away from doing research and so on and so on and they are upset.
And, Fire Engineer Magazine said it was totally unbelievable what happened
with this examination of 9-11.
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- AJ: Well, they say it was a criminal cover up and now,
sir, we've turned into a police state. They can secretly arrest citizens,
secretly execute us. They are building admitted prison camps all over
the country, this is in our news. We're turning into something like the
Soviet Union here.
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- AvB: Well, I can't comment on this but what's going on
in Guantanamo is like that. I think the problem is that if you put people,
who ever you like in Guantanamo in Cuba, you take them away for one or
two years without letting a lawyer to them, without showing them what you
are reprising to them, without having contact from their family- they tell
in all court processes what the FBI is wanting from them-
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- AJ: Well, sir-
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- AvB: And so you get fake evidence from these kinds of
people, if you behave like that.
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- AJ: And sir, sir. Our mainstream news says that torture
is good and they say they are torturing people, that's the Washington Post.
Is that a concern that our government now admits it's torturing?
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- AvB: Well, I'm informed- I don't know whether they are
torturing, keeping them is a kind of a torture, but I am told there is
an agreement with a lot of states to put these people to Egypt and other
states where torture is accepted and is done and you get the final outcome
of this torture and you can produce this in front of German courts and
American courts and try to bring about final judgment.
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- AJ: Well that's it. We'll be back; long segment coming
up and we'll get more into your book. We're honored to have you, Andreas
von Bulow. Stay with us. (Fade)
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- AJ: All right folks. We're talking with Andreas von
Bulow and to make this clear, up until about two years ago he was the head
minister over the Department of Technology and before that he was the head
of his party's group on defense. Now, we're going to take calls coming
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253 3139. Now, going back to Andreas von Bulow, sir, we were talking during
the break and I said what are some of the other key points that you would
like to go over. You mentioned the CIA and insider trading and the Anthrax
attacks. Please discuss it.
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- AvB: Well, the insider trading, everybody knows that
there [was] news about insider trading. I think altogether fifteen billion
dollars. And, there was speculation about going down, of United Airlines
and American Airlines; both airlines which were attacked by 9-11 and other
things. So, normally you could find out because I think the American-
the CIA together with the financial department, the Treasury, they developed
this watching the markets to find out speculation about going on terrorist
attacks. So, they could immediately find out if there were something going
on- and they could find out. And, in this case, they- 9-11- the NSA people
which are the guys watching via satellites the whole of the transactions
going on, on Earth, they said, they told the people to destroy the tapes.
They had tapes about this interior trading and they said they had to destroy
them so they are not any longer proof.
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- AJ: Now again, interior trading that's a good term for
it, insider trading. So again, insider trading or interior trading going
on here and fifteen billion dollars, I think that's a low estimate. It
came out the first week, Germany reported on it, France reported on it,
the US, we're going to catch them!, Record put options against United
and American; not against other airlines but specifically against these
and it leads back to the CIA and suddenly they destroy the evidence. Again,
again another smoking gun. Then, you get into anthrax attacks; Bush on
Cipro, the most weaponized anthrax ever seen. Tell us about that.
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- AvB: Well, there the question just is who has the responsibility
for this! You know, it overlaid the whole public debate of what was the
background and reason for 9-11 for weeks because these attacks were going
on for weeks and weeks and weeks. And, finally nothing came out. We have
no report on who was responsible, who did it and this again is amazing.
I think it belongs probably to the cover up of the psychological cover-up
of the whole scenery. And then, the vice-President and the President asking
Congress not to go into too much detail about the background of 9-11.
What does this mean? And until now it's what the President knew before
9-11 is a total secret. I think there is no secret service around the
world which gave no hints to the American secret service community, the
CIA, the DIA and so on and so on. They did nothing out of it. The most
disturbing thing is that these guys that knew about something in coming
up 9-11, were cutout before. I mean the local level of the FBI offices,
they knew quite a lot and they tried to force the central organization
to go into the details about Arabs taking lessons in flight schools and
so on. And, the guy who decided on top, I think the second man who was
in the FBI he [said] no we don't do this, and he got promoted after 9-11.
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- AJ: By the way, the US embassies that allowed supposed
Al- Qaeda back in got record cash bonuses. The FBI agents who ordered
other FBI agents not to stop Al-Qaeda, they go bonuses. Bush signed W199I
months before 9-11 ordering FBI not to stop Al-Qaeda. They threatened
to arrest FBI Robert Wright if he tells us what he knows. I,ve interviewed
his lawyer David Schippers who knew about the attacks beforehand. He went
to Bush; Bush wouldn't talk to him, Ashcroft wouldn't talk to him. And
you said something very astute, sir, you talked about the anthrax being
a psychological cover-up of the scenery. That is, all these questions
coming out in the early days about 9-11 got blacked out by the anthrax
attacks and that's absolutely why that happened. We've tracked that back
to Fort Detrick, Maryland. And they said it wasn't weaponized anthrax,
it turned out it was the most weaponized ever seen.
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- AvB: Yeah, that's absolutely correct and the wars which
were reasoned to be fights against terrorism, the war against Afghanistan
to put out the Taliban it was decided long before and I think in June before
9-11. The Afghanistan government- no, the Pakistan government and the
Indian government [were] told there would be an intervention in October.
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- AJ: Also, 44 000 US troops, 18 000 US troops were in
Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, Bush had the battle launch orders on his desk
two days before 9-11.
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- AvB: That's exact, that's exactly-
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- AJ: And sir, I want to digress back to torture for a
minute because you have been, you,ve impressed by, I mean you know so much
about this, you,ve researched it so well- On the torture issue, General
Rick Baucus quit Guantanamo because he quote refused to torture the people
there, and the CIA section chief bragged in the Washington Post that they
fly them to foreign countries and then the CIA tortures them themselves
so they do admit the torture.
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- AvB: (Pause) Sure. I can't comment on this [but] it's
obvious; all the court proceedings against for example against Moussaui
I think it was the 20th nominally- it was supposed in each aircraft to
have five hijackers and this one was taken into prison by the FBI. I think
the process was made in Alexandria, Virginia and I think the judge said
that if you don't give the proof [of] these guys who are running Al- Qaeda
and give these people for cross-examination then I can deliver a judgment.
The same is true in Germany; we have people who are related to Al-Qaeda-and
probably Al-Qaeda is an artificial, err, [de]nomination of-
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- AJ: CIA fiction.
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- AvB:- a ruse of elements of Islamic people. In Hamburg,
the trials are failing because the American government is not delivering
the proof.
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- AJ: Absolutely and look, we've had military officers
and many others on, it is clear that Al Qaeda is a CIA creation. A foggy
boogie man so the military-industrial complex can carry out attacks and
then pin it on them and I mean we know when bin Laden blows up a building
supposedly, our government pays his family to rebuild it.
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- AvB: Yeah.
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- AJ: I mean there's the payoff right out in the open.
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- AvB: Yeah, the whole background of- the whole personalities
like bin Laden, like Al Qaeda, like Taliban, even Saddam Hussein, these
are all figures that were handled by the CIA in former times. So probably
they are recycled in the system now as bad guys. Before, they were the
good guys taking away the Russians out of Afghanistan and dealing with
this, getting money for this, getting paid for this now they are used as
bad guys. Usama bin Laden has been, in ,95, in the Balkans in an operation
the Americans were with the UKG in Albania. You find these guys all over;
you find these guys in Chechnya for example. There are also former Afghanis,
as they are called and they are [driven] in loaded planes of the CIA for
example.
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- AJ: Absolutely so they provide the crisis so Big Brother
could provide the police state solution. Andreas von Bulow it is clear
that if we do not expose at least who stands to gain from this terror and
who was involved in it, that is the large financial interests that own
our government, they are going to be able to use America as the engine
of quote imperial mobilization and world domination. As Zbigniew Brzezinski
and the PNAC documents said, how important is it to expose this for the
future of free humanity?
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- AvB: I think it's, for everybody outside of the United
States it's extremely important because it's a question of whether democracy
will survive and whether the state of law is kept up or we'll be driven
by public relations and financial interest. And I think the main thing
for the Americans is who pays for all this. Because, if the oil companies
get more cheap oil and make their money out of it, the American taxpayer
has to pay for the military machine. The oil companies aren't paying for
that. It's not the military-industrial complex paying for that, it is
the American taxpayer so it's extremely important.
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- AJ: Absolutely and now we are paying record amounts for
fuel for petrol in this country while they have record supplies and the
oil companies are posting record profits. I want to get into W T C 7 because
I want people to hear these clips. These are from the PBS documentary,
and this will just take a minute sir, and then I want to get your comment
on it, where they describe how Building 7 fell and how they removed it
first because quote nobody died in it., It's the owner, Larry Silverstein
who pulled it, gave the order to demolish it on the afternoon of September
11th, so, Mark, go ahead and hit that clip for us please.
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- PBS Documentary (narrator): World Trade Center 7 had
always been considered the starting point for rebuilding. Located north
of the slurry wall, Building 7 had been cleared faster than the rest of
the site. There had been no bodies to recover. Pelted by debris when
the North Tower collapsed, Seven burned into the late afternoon allowing
occupants to evacuate to safety.
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- PBS Documentary (Silverstein): I remember getting a call
from the, err, Fire Department commander telling me that they were not
sure they would be able to contain the fire. I thought we had such terrible
loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do was, was pull it, and they
made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.
- AJ: We made the decision to pull, and we watched the
building collapse. Now here's Dan Rather, seconds after it collapses and
this is what Dan Rather had to say and then we'll get von Bulow's comment.
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- (Voice of Dan Rather): What you are seeing are high shots,
now here we're going to show you a videotape of the collapse itself. Now
we go to videotape of the collapse of this building. (Associate- it's amazing,)
Amazing, incredible, pick your word. For the third time today, it's reminiscent
of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when a building
was destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
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- AJ: Now, again, the seismographs show multiple explosions,
the firefighters were told to get back. Von Bulow, how important is this
piece of evidence?
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- AvB: The explosions, well the government has to explain
it! They have to prove their case. They have to this conspiracy theory
that these nineteen Muslims under the direction of Usama bin Laden. It's
not my business; it's only if there are explosions, if it's true, can it
be that the heat out of kerosene is able to destroy these huge buildings
in a manner that they are collapsing in a
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- AJ: Symmetrical.
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- AvB: free-fall in a very short- in a few seconds, that
they broke together. It's nearly impossible. So everything that is on
the table is telling that the government story is not true. And there
must be another story and it must be explosions and the spikes in geological
institutions in five states, 2.2 on the Richter scale, you have to find
out what's the background. And five or seven days later the temperature
on the ground was five hundred degrees, or a little bit more than 450,
if just fires were-
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- AJ: We've got to break. We'll be right back.
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- AJ: We're talking with Andreas von Bulow. Former minister
at the highest levels of the German government. Former Technology Minister.
And I know we have a lot of callers but we only have time to take maybe
one or two, Dan in Oklahoma. I just want to commend Andreas von Bulow
for writing this book 9-11 and the CIA and I would hope a publisher would
get a hold of it and translate it and publish it here because I would definitely
carry it. You can find information on the book for those who read and
speak German at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. Andreas von Bulow let's
take a call, let's talk to Dan in Oklahoma. Dan, you,re on the air go
ahead.
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- Dan: Yes, thanks Alex. Mr. von Bulow my question is
following this disaster of 9 1 1, I understand Germany, France, and Russia
and why they didn't want to get involved because of the money they had
invested with Iraq. With the military-industrial complex like it is, what
do you understand the New World Order to be especially since they said
they could us this event to-
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- AJ: Yes, who are, who are the forces behind government-sponsored
terror?
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- AvB: Who are the forces behind government? I do not
understand this.
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- AJ: Well we know this global government is forming.
We know that powerful financial interests are engineering terror attacks,
who are the forces behind the military industrial complex?
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- AvB: Well, it's always interesting. If you look at who
owns the munitions factory in the East-West conflict or the Near-East conflict,
they are always trying to sell their material to both sides. And, they
are always interested in conflict and they would like after the breakdown
of the Soviet Union, the noble thing would be to cut down this military-industrial
complex, which costs the American taxpayer a huge amount of money. Exactly
the same time the Soviet Union breaks down, this new terror thing comes
up. The first terrorist attacks were I think the World Trade Center one
and you find out the leading guy of this bombing, this time an agricultural
bomb, he was going immediately to FBI and saying I,ll tell you everything
about this, and they agreed finally twenty-four hours before the attack
in 1993, they would change the powder, the dangerous powder against the
[non] dangerous powder and the FBI didn't come up to do this so-
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- AJ: Yeah, they cooked the bomb and trained the drivers
and that's another patsy.
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- AvB:-people were [injured] and six people were dead.
In Oklahoma you had nearly the same thing. You had two attacks. One
was perhaps McViegh and this other guy but there was another attack much
more strong than this agricultural bomb and there is an American general,
an Air Force general who for I think ten years or fifteen years in charge
of this explosive institute and he said never could this agrarian bomb
bring about such damage. There must be something else and they found that
within the building there were demolition charges.
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- AJ: Absolutely, Dan thanks for the call. I hope we can
get you on in the future again, Andreas von Bulow, you,ve been so kind.
You have such amazing courage to stand up and tell the truth and we've
been honored to have you on the show from Germany. God bless you.
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- AvB: Thank you.
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- AJ: Thank you very much and have a good evening.
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- Hear the interview, go to
- http://www.prisonplanet.com/020804vonbuelow.html
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