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Mexican Air Force
Crew Conversation
Of FLIR UFO Encounters

From Santiago Yturria
syturria@intercable.net
5-29-4
 
Dear Jeff,
 
I send you our English translation to the Flir audio recordings during the
incident of March 5, 2004. The crew conversations reflect the emotional
moments they experienced during this unprecedented incident.
 
Best wishes,
Santiago
 
 
 
ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THE FLIR AUDIO RECORDINGS FROM
THE MEXICAN AIR FORCE MERLIN C26A.
 
Audio sequences courtesy of Jaime Maussan
Translation by Santiago Yturria
 
DATE: MARCH 5, 2004
LOCATION: CIUDAD DEL CARMEN, CAMPECHE AERIAL SPACE
 
NOTE: The order of the voices does not correspond to the same
officers in every segment. The order is made according to the appeareance
of each voice in each segment.
 
PART 1: PRIOR TO THE UFO INCIDENT THE C26A IS ON MISSION FLYING OVER SUSPICIOUS
DRUG SMUGGLING RUNWAYS.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 12:55:09 to 12:55:29
 
CREW CONVERSATIONS:
 
VOICE A: Do you have the lagoon on sight ?
VOICE B: Yes it is to the right.
 
VOICE A: We get to the lagoon and weíll do that.
VOICE B: To the right ?
VOICE A: Yes
 
VOICE B: And we go back to the point, or do we move away?
VOICE A: We move away, that is, we make a pattern more or less an arc type.
VOICE B: OK.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 13:16:22 to 13:16:33
 
NO DIALOGUES.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 16:42:44 to 16:43:30
 
VOICE A: Almost to 12 of our position, distance, 2.9, speed, 75.
VOICE B: Pan more to the left because of the sun.
VOICE C: Yes.
 
VOICE B: Pan to the left
VOICE A: OK I see it.
 
VOICE A: The runway is here at one
VOICE C: Where are you ?
VOICE A: Ehhh, at 12 of our position, 2.3.
VOICE B: A runway
 
PART 2: Unknown traffic has appeared. The crew begins to take action.
They report a traget to the base that is suspected to be a clandestine airplane.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 16:45:33 to 16:45:55
 
VOICE A: I'll tell you right away
VOICE B: A position ?
VOICE C: A position.. 7- 4
VOICE A: At 12 of our position, I still have it there
VOICE D: A traffic
VOICE E: Can you get me the headquarters officer, Captain Danzon to let
him know that we are locating the target.
VOICE A: Point Carmen 18- 4
VOICE B: It's marking 2-106 of speed and has a heading of 301
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 16:52:03 to 16:53:00
 
VOICE A: It's behind the clouds.
 
VOICE A: What could it have been ?
VOICE B: Don't know. It went on the other side, exactly where I had it.
 
The Flir operator trying to track the object through the clouds.
 
VOICE A. Come come.
VOICE B: Go.
 
VOICE A : Right, right.
VOICE B: Here it goes !! Here it goes !!
 
VOICE B: There it goes, there it goes.
 
PART 3: The object is clearely visible by the Flir. The crew begins to wonder
about the unknown light
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 16:50:03 to 16:50:22
 
VOICE A: What is it Juarez ? Juarez what is it?
VOICE B: It's a point
VOICE C: A point. It's there.
VOICE D: It's there behind us.
VOICE C: Its correct, it's now at 7 of our position at 10.5 miles
 
VOICE C: It has a course of 2- 8- 3 and a speed of 3-3-4
 
VOICE D: More.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 16:55:16 to 16:57:32
 
VOICE A: At least we contacted it with the Flir and we have Radar contact
all the time.
VOICE B: What altitude does it have, more or less, boss?
VOICE A: I think it has the sameas us.
VOICE B: Aahh.
 
VOICE C: The Flir angle is... straight.
 
VOICE C: Exactly.
VOICE A: It's above us
VOICE C: That's right.
VOICE B: Ah that's why you did'nt see it.
 
VOICE D: I'm almost losing it on the Radar, it's almost out.
VOICE B: Aahh.
VOICE A: OK
VOICE C: It's exactly one mile from Carmen. From Carmen.
 
VOICE B: How many miles ?
VOICE C: One or two miles from Carmen.
VOICE D: I don't have it on the screen but the Radar is still marking the
distance at 37 miles.
VOICE C: It's now over Carmen.
 
VOICE B: Well, then it's been lost.
VOICE D: Here it comes.
VOICE C: It's passing by Carmen.
 
VOICE D: It is still going there.
 
VOICE D: What's it doing ?
VOICE C: It's turning
VOICE D: It is turning right ?
VOICE C: Yes.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 16:59:05 to 16:59:46
 
VOICE A: Just a light. It could'nt be distinguished
VOICE B: It could'nt be distinguished if it was a plane or something.
 
VOICE C: It is the same one that we saw awhile ago.
VOICE D: Yes.
 
VOICE E: Paying attention, eh ?
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 17:03:36 to 17:07:40
 
PART 4: TWO OBJECTS APPEAR.
 
VOICE A: Let me check .
VOICE B: At 7 at the same altitude.
VOICE C: There are some clouds, it must be seen over there.
 
VOICE D: That but, let's see, look for that, that is behind us.
VOICE E: Look how it looks. It looks like its in two parts.
VOICE C: It is at 7 or 8 of our position.
 
VOICE C: The strange thing is, that it has a point in the forward
position. A ëlittle pointí in front of it.
 
VOICE C: It's not there? There goes another one.
 
More objects ëin formationí appear in the Flir. The operator detected them
and is moving the Flir camera backwards to count them.
 
VOICE F: Lets' see, what do we have ?
VOICE A: Nothing sir. Hold on, let me look.
VOICE C: Commander what's that ?
VOICE F: At what distance did you have them Tellez ?
VOICE C: Ehh?
VOICE A: Hey, beware, this is like...
VOICE C: They'remore coming. There are more, they are behind. There are
ten, eleven objects.
VOICE A: There are many objects.
VOICE F: Ehh?
VOICE C: They must be at 9 of the position now.
VOICE F: At 9. Hold on.
VOICE A: At 9, same altitude almost.
VOICE F: OK, hold on.
VOICE C: Affirmative. They're going
 
VOICE C: They're going.
 
VOICE C: Go one..
VOICE A: One
VOICE C: And they are going with the others at the back, the ones that follow.
VOICE F: My God, what's that.
VOICE B: They are running each other (smiling)
 
VOICE F: What's that? Let's see. Try to focus.
 
VOICE C: It's at maximun.
VOICE F: OK, don't let them leave you behind.
 
VOICE F: OK
VOICE C: Go.
VOICE F: Follow that one Tellez, don't leave it.
VOICE C: There they go, all of them, there are aproximately ten, did you
see them ? Have you seen them?
VOICE F: You follow them.
 
VOICE C: There they go.
VOICE A : There they go.
 
VOICE A: Three, four, five. six... Are there six ?
 
VOICE F: Below or above ? Above ? Where.
VOICE C: In the middle, there they go, at the same altitude.
VOICE A: There they go look, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven...
no there are eight.
 
VOICE F: How terrible...
VOICE C. They are going to be seen better - there.
 
VOICE C: And they're going at a speed that...
 
VOICE C: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight on the screen
VOICE F: Follow them, don't lose them.
 
VOICE A: Are they at the same altitude, Tellez ?
VOICE C: Affirmative. Above.
 
VOICE C: Eight, nine, ten, eleven counting all the ones in the back.
VOICE C: Two, four, six, eight, ten, eleven.
 
VOICE F: ( Apparently talking to the base ) Listen we don't know what are
we seeing, they are just luminous objects that are flying at the same altitude
as us. We can not know what their distance is.
 
VOICE B: At what position do you have it, Tellez ?
VOICE C: At 8.
VOICE F: At 8 or 9.
VOICE B: At 9. I don't think the Radar may read it, we have a blind angle
there, Sir.
VOICE F: At 8 or 9 ?
VOICE B: Yes.
 
VOICE B. We have 20 degrees of blind angle there.
VOICE F: But you were seeing them ?
VOICE B: Yes but it's strange, now I have nothing.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 17:14:58 to 17:16:14
 
One object is seen huge on the Flir screen.
 
VOICE A: ( Smiling ) Why are they following us. Mantain that.
VOICE B: They are at 12 he said.
VOICE C: No. They are at 1.
 
VOICE A: Well that's one but we have another at 9.
VOICE D: We have one at 9.
VOICE B: Ah I have one here, let me check the one at 9.
VOICE D: And ahead there go another two.
VOICE A: And they're the same eh ?
VOICE D: We have them ahead, in the middle and at 8
VOICE B: ( Laughing ) Ahh damn!
VOICE A: ( Laughing ) Fasten your seatbelts!
VOICE D: Let's see...
VOICE B: ( Smiling ) Don't be frightened.
VOICE D: If you could check through the window, we have one that goes aproximately
at 1. And the rest still going at 9.
VOICE A. That means we are surrounded ?
VOICE D: Well... I don't know.
VOICE B: At what distance.
VOICE D: The radar just indicates the point.
VOICE A: Boys, today is your lucky day !! ( Laughs )
VOICE B: At what distance.
VOICE A. And that one is getting near to the other one.
VOICE D: It does not mark distance.
VOICE B: OK. The one that we have at 1 of our position, I have it at 19
miles, at 1 of our position with 52 knots.
VOICE D: The one that you have at 1, I have one at 9 and the one that goes
ahead of the one at 9. Aproximately at 9, but going ahead is two luminous
points.
VOICE B: At what position, Tellez ?
VOICE D: At 9 of our position.
VOICE B: At 9 ? Hold on, let me check.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 17:16:32 to 17:18:23
 
An object is seen on the screen and the airplane left blade to the left.
 
VOICE A: It's going at our altitude, couldnít be.
VOICE B: The one that you have, what's it's position ?
VOICE C: Which is it, the one below the cloud ? That one ?
VOICE A: Yes.
VOICE C: OK
VOICE A: Roger.
VOICE B: That one that you have there, what's it's position ?
VOICE A: I have it at 9.
 
VOICE D: Boys...
VOICE B: We are not alone. ( Laughs )
VOICE D: Yes, we are not alone, right. It's true. How strange this is, they
are surrounding us.
VOICE A: Hey the one that you have at 1 ?
VOICE B: At 1 I have it at 14.8 miles at 1 heading 99 at a speed of 52.
VOICE A: Ah, that's the. He is following one and I'm following the other
one.
VOICE D: OK
VOICE A: I mean the other ones.
 
VOICE D: What is this ?
VOICE E: Couldn't be a plane, it's stopped there!
VOICE D: Ehh ?
VOICE A: Do you have it in sight ?
VOICE B: It looks so...let it get near.
VOICE E: It's stopped there.
VOICE B: It's stopped ? Leaves the field ?
 
VOICE D: No but the one that we have at 9...
VOICE E: It's in the clouds.
VOICE D: The one that we have at 9 is following us, is in formiation with
us,
is in formtion... at 9.
 
VOICE A: The one that you have at 1 where do you have it, Generation ?
VOICE B: Hold on " Gene " I have it at... at 1.
VOICE A: There is one that 's getting near to us.
VOICE B: At 1 of our position with 10 miles distance and speed of 52.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 17:26:30 to 17:27:02
 
The Flir is focusing an object that presents a shape and a luminous form.
 
The pilot is apparently reporting this object to the base.
 
VOICE A: The Radar has them. The Flir has them. We are seeing on the Flir
a luminous object, it has an opposite course to us but it doesnít leave
us, it's two miles behind us.
 
VOICE A: It does not move apart from us, no it don't move apart.
 
VOICE A. Correct, who knows what it is.
 
VOICE A: Is still with us, Marin ?
 
VOICE B: Yes, I still have it here.
 
FLIR TIME PERIOD: (Hour/Min/Sec) 17:27:11 to 17:28:02
 
VOICE A: Now it lost a bit of quality, I have a quality of 5.
 
VOICE B: Again look it looks...
 
VOICE A: The one that we had at 1 is lost now.
VOICE B: OK
VOICE A: It just left the Radar.
 
VOICE B: How weird is all this.


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