- The following extracts were transcribed from a filmed
interview with Valery Uvarov, of Russia's National Security Academy, conducted
by Graham W. Birdsall, Editor of the UK-based UFO Magazine. The interview
took place at the 12th International UFO Congress Convention and Film Festival,
held February 2-8, 2003, in Laughlin, Nevada, USA.
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- Graham Birdsall (GB): What is your official title?
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- Valery Uvarov (VU): I am head of the Department of UFO
Research, Science and Technical, National Security Academy, based in St
Petersburg, Russia.
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- GB: This, then, is an official Russian government agency?
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- VU: Absolutely. I am answerable to two people above me.
They are answerable to the next person above them, who is our President
[Putin].
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- GB: What exactly is your remit?
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- VU: Our research efforts are divided into two parts.
Firstly, we are constantly analysing data coming in from all over the world.
We then extract what we consider to be the most interesting information
through our database-which is yellow, which is red. This, then, is released
to various departments throughout Russia. The other aspect of our research
stemmed from asking the question: do UFOs exist or not? For sure, we know
they exist, but what is behind their activity, their interest? This is
the most important issue for us, and what we mostly focus our investigations
on.
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- GB: There is active co-operation between NASA and Russian
aerospace officials at a technical, scientific and maybe even military
level. Do you liaise or have ties with organisations similar to your own
overseas?
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- VU: I can tell you, truthfully, that just a couple of
days before I flew to the United States I had a meeting with my ... let's
say, my bosses. And they said they are very interested in co-operating
with other organisations ... let's say, our friends in the West. So, I
can tell you that this particular mission is at the starting point. I am
charged with finding the right people. When this is done, and the next
stage is activated, we can make some concrete steps.
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- GB: Earlier, off camera, you alluded to some important
developments concerning the Tunguska explosion of 1908. For the record,
can you tell us why you now believe you know the cause?
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- VU: It is not so much a case of belief; we know what
caused it. It was a meteor, but a meteor that was destroyed by ... let's
say, a missile. The missile was generated by a material installation. We
don't know who constructed it, but it was built long, long ago and is situated
in Siberia, several hundred kilometres north of Tunguska. I can tell you
that our investigation has revealed more than one explosion at Tunguska.
Let me share something with you. The last time that this installation shot
down a meteor was on 24/25 September last year. The Americans ... they
have three bases ... they, too, noticed this explosion. [Editor's Ref:
See New Scientist vol 178 issue 2399 - 14 June 2003]
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- GB: Forgive me, but some will say this sounds like science
fiction.
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- VU: Graham, you know that when we talk about the truths
that lie behind this subject, we only do so with those who have an understanding
of the responsibility that goes with it. And you know that we are dealing
with a technology much further ahead of our own-one capable of doing things
that we cannot.
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- GB: Can you be more specific about the location of this
installation?
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- VU: Look for the site of the Tunguska explosion. To the
southeast is the very large and famous Lake Baikal. Beyond that, to the
north, is a huge and barren territory covering 100,000 kilometres. Hardly
anyone lives there. There are no towns or cities. Here is where we located
the installation ...
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- GB: Are you aware of strange stories or rumours concerning
the so-called "Planet X"? If some new and heavenly body had entered
our solar system, astronomers would surely detect it and declare its presence.
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- VU: I cannot speak for astronomers in the West, but astronomers
within our Academy tell us we have nothing to fear. I have heard people
talk about a rotation figure of 3,600 years for this planet, which is in
a similar orbit to that of the Earth but behind the Sun. We know that this
planet and the installation in Siberia are closely connected. Let me say
that we believe that this installation is keeping that planet in a stable
orbit. If that planet were to move, to shift orbit, the entire solar system
would become unstable. Those of us in the Academy are sure that this planet
is inhabited, and that this installation is designed to protect them and
us. We are sure that nothing dangerous will happen. Everything is under
control.
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- Our investigations have shown that the Earth has a pulse-a
finely tuned frequency that affects everything, every living thing. Some
12,500 years ago, this pulse corresponded to 360 days of the year-study
the old Egyptian calendar-but then an asteroid struck the Earth. We believe
the orbit of the Earth was altered, artificially, to compensate for this.
Our planet moved further away from the Sun, to a frequency pulse of 365.
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- This has taught us to believe that we have friends-friends
who watch over us, silently. They did not allow then, nor will they allow
now, any planet, comet or asteroid to strike and destroy the Earth. This,
for us, is now absolutely clear.
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- Those who wish to weaponise space ... to tell you the
truth, all of us involved in this project feel a pain in our hearts. Here
we all are, investigating this installation and some other stuff, material
stuff, none of which was constructed by Russians or Americans but by someone
else, someone from outer space. It saddens us when we think what could
happen if weapons are put into space.
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- Let me speak frankly. This installation has a power system,
an energy source. We have located this. It was during the conflict in the
former Yugoslavia that we first noticed an increase in the output of that
energy. For us, it was incredible, but we now know that this installation
reacts to social upheaval and conflict. Part of our investigation involved
searching through ancient records and archives, and then we came across
the Echutin Apposs Alanhor [sic] texts. We call them the Alanhor, and they
are at least 4,000 years old. They describe the installation, in scientific
terms, as to what was taking place there. It's amazing.
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- I have visited the area twice. The first time our equipment
detected strong levels of radiation. I have to tell you, it was pretty
dangerous; we couldn't hide from it. The few local inhabitants of the area
knew of the installation, of course, and they described it to us. They
describe metal-like structures and drew them for us. We plotted everything
on a map. But these people, their families, the animals, they were suffering
from radiation sickness.
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- The radiation levels have been continuously monitored
for the past six years, and now everyone-including the animals-has left
the forest. Let me tell you something about the Tunguska explosion-something
that has never been spoken of before. Two months before the explosion,
every living animal fled the region. It was as if the installation had
powered up to deal with the asteroid. With that came an increase in radiation.
The same thing is happening now, today.
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- GB: Are there any plans to mount another expedition to
the area and to visit the installation?
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- VU: The radiation is a factor but, yes, another expedition
is planned for later this year. Look, we want to be open and honest about
this. We welcome international participation, but the people we invite
must be responsible in the eyes of the world. We want people who are honest,
open-minded and transparent, who are eager and willing to co-operate and
exchange and then disseminate the scientific data. I invite you, Graham,
to come to Russia and visit the installation as an observer.
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- GB: I would be honoured. Thank you.
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- VU: You can tell people that we, Russia, have decided
that it is time that other people should know about this, and not just
a few.
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- Editor's Note:
- This interview first appeared in the April 2003 edition
of UFO Magazine, published by Quest Publications International Limited,
Valley Farm Way, Wakefield Road, Stourton, Leeds, LS10 1SE, England, United
Kingdom, <http://www.ufomag.co.uk/>www.ufomag.co.uk.
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- Extracted from Nexus Magazine,
- <http://www.nexusmagazine.com/1004.conts.html>Volume
10, Number 4 (June-July 2003)
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