- Zbigniew Brzezinski coined the term Hedonistic Cornucopia
in his book "Out of Control". Believe me, I am no fan of this
infamous Globalist and founding member of the Trilateral Commission. In
fact, I study his literary works in the spirit of "Know thy Enemies".
To my amazement, after filtering out typical New World Order propaganda,
the specific hypothesis he proposed has struck a chord with me as a valuable
prognosis of many problems facing our society today. The theory depicts
the obsession of Americans to obtain an overflowing cup of possessions
and excessive pleasurable entertainment, while lacking the self-respect,
morality or social grace to constrain behavior within civilized boundaries.
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- Alex Jones wrote an excellent article recently describing
an experience he had in a movie theatre. He described the actions of the
people he encountered as extremely rude and impolite, with no regard for
their fellow moviegoers. This type of experience is growing more and more
common. The American public appears to be reverting to a form of barbarism.
Rather than becoming more civilized, as may be expected of a mature civilization,
we appear to be descending into a culture lacking in morality, common decency,
and respect for our fellow citizens.
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- As a member of the sixties generation, I find myself
yearning for the simpler and gentler times of my youth, and wondering how
we have arrived at our current decadent lifestyle. During my youth, the
AIDS virus was still residing in a test tube somewhere waiting to be unleashed
on an unsuspecting world. Cocaine was not yet a socially accepted drug,
and most of my generation truly cared about making this world a better
place. Playboy and Penthouse magazines were the hardest pornography easily
available. Graphic violence and sex were censored from network television.
This lifestyle is not available to our children unfortunately.
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- Every day I find myself inundated by constant examples
of previously unknown depths of decadence. Let me assure you that I have
not led a sheltered life, and hold no inhibitions against enjoying all
that life has to offer within the boundaries of Christian morality and
common sense. Watching the football playoffs last weekend, I was shocked
by the commercials bordering on pornography. A Miller beer commercial displayed
two women ripping each other's clothes off and mud wrestling on network
television. Millions of children throughout the world watched this atrocious
display. Teenage girls are commonly dressed as provocatively as prostitutes.
Lewd tattoos and body piercing are covering the bodies of today's youth.
Heterosexual, homosexual, and lesbian sex is publicly exposed in every
sector of society. Our youth are being taught that this behavior is normal
and accepted. Self-respect and respect for the rights of others has diminished
to the point of being almost non-existent in America.
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- The majority of Americans are so obsessed with wringing
every available pleasure out of life that they have lost all sense of morality.
The primary goal of most Americans today is to accumulate as much money
as possible using any means necessary, with absolutely no compassion for
anyone less fortunate. Paganism is the fastest growing belief system in
western civilization. The sex slave trade is flourishing. New reports of
pedophilia are reported daily. Pornography and Gambling are legal and commonplace
in most areas of the country. Marriage is a failed institution. Changing
partners occurs as often as changing clothes. Traditional family life is
old fashioned and unusual in this day and age. Trust in neighbors and acquaintances
are virtually unknown. Workplaces have been transformed into mercenary
environments with a complete lack of social conscience. Darwinism is the
cornerstone of the twenty-first century. Instant gratification is demanded
and expected. Our political and financial ruling elites, including Bill
Clinton (Monica Lewinsky) and Kenneth Lay (Enron), have displayed their
true lack of moral responsibility and provide typical role models for this
new era. Aleister Crowley's aphorism "Do what thou wilt" has
become the guiding theme in America.
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- How could American culture change so dramatically in
thirty years? Are we to believe that this is accidental, or the natural
progression of a mature civilization? Why are organized religions accepting,
and in some cases, quietly condoning this behavior? This is where I part
ways with Mr. Brzezinski. He states that our current societal ills are
a result of being victims of our own success. This is what happens when
our lives are too easy, he says.
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- You would be foolish to accept that this transformation
is anything less that an organized conspiracy to destroy the very structure
of American society. There is a sophisticated plot being brought to fruition
to transform America from a society of strong moral patriots into a herd
of instinctive animals scrambling for whatever crumbs the government decides
are necessary to appease and placate. Our current society is the result
of a concerted effort by the international elite Globalists intent upon
destroying America utilizing associates from every area of the media, education,
and government to further their desire for world domination.
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- To understand how we arrived at this state, it is necessary
to analyze where the influences on our behavior originate. In retrospect,
the changes wrought in sixties revolution appears to be the opening salvo
in the war for our morality. After John F. Kennedy's assassination, people
became disillusioned. The dream of greatness was somehow dissipated by
this tragic loss. The legalization of birth control and abortions allowed
that generation's youth to experiment with non-marital sex secure in the
knowledge that they could avoid having children as a result. The drug revolution
of this era was another field of attack. The Beatles, Grateful Dead, and
other rock bands made the proliferation and public acceptance of the drug
culture popular. Added to the mix were the atrocities of the Vietnam War,
and the ensuing anti-war protests that caused serious dissention among
the American people. This resulted in a revolution against the mores of
previous generations. Was the introduction of these behavior modifications
a strategy devised to achieve their desired goal of decimation of the culture
that made America the most powerful nation in the world? The implementation
of these changes required political assistance, control over education,
and coordination with major financial interests.
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- As an active participant of the sixties revolution, I
believed that I was exploring new cultural territory and changing the world.
Imagine my disappointment when I discovered that my actions and beliefs
were playing directly into the hands of the Globalists! We have become
victims of diabolical social engineering in an attempt to convert us into
characters from George Orwell's"1984" and Aldous Huxley's "Future
Shock".
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- The primary disseminators of corrupt hedonistic propaganda
are Hollywood and the media. Very few members of the current generation
read classic and quality literature for entertainment. They are obtaining
their moral underpinnings through cinema and television. Movies of the
past consisted of stories of heroes and heroines with strong nationalistic
patriotism and moral character, and contained little graphic violence or
pornography. Today this is no longer the norm. Action movies contain horrific
scenes of unimaginable violence. Late night cable television is permeated
with every perversion imaginable. Monogamous heterosexual relationships
are derided and ridiculed. The current generation is growing insensitive
to this behavior. They are being indoctrinated into accepting violence
and perversion as normal. Video games are a prime example of how the entertainment
industry is corrupting our youth by providing games championing violence,
crime, and pornography.
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- We are told that the entertainment industry is only satisfying
the desires of their audiences. This is not the case. Producers and screenwriters
are following guidelines from their financial investors and political leaders
when creating their productions that display hedonistic and immoral attitudes
as the preferred attitudes of society. Forget about leading patriotic morally
responsible lives, that is no fun. The line between reality and fantasy
is growing faint. It appears that news programs and television shows are
using the same material. No longer is the American public able to rely
on the media to portray strong moral values.
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- The National Education Association (NEA) is the driving
force behind transforming the American education system into a training
camp for New World Order minions. Globalists have been pouring funds into
the tax-free NEA Foundation and major Universities for decades, thereby
guiding the higher education curriculum to meet their requirements. By
controlling the leaders of educational institutions, it is not necessary
to control the majority of teachers. By indoctrinating the leaders of education,
then the teachers and the students will follow the path charted for them.
Acknowledged communists have been appointed to leading educational positions,
with the intention of molding our youth into model citizens of the state.
Herbert Marcuse, an avowed Marxist with deep ties to the Eastern Establishment,
is one of the original leaders of this movement. His novel "One Dimensional
Man", a blueprint for behavior modification through education, is
evidence of their plan to mold our youth through education. That infiltration
is now almost complete and the successful results are apparent. This phenomenon
has been described as the "Dumbing down of America". An ignorant
population is much easier to control. God and the Ten Commandments are
no longer allowed in the classroom. This lack of knowledge of moral responsibility
has had the desired effect of instilling few genuine values in the students.
They are taught, "If it feels good, do it". Humanism is the prevailing
value of our educators. Political correctness has become synonymous with
Atheism, and is enforced in all public schools.
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- These coordinated actions could not be successful without
the assistance of our Government. The Executive, Legislative, and Judicial
branches have worked in concert to further this complex many-faceted attack
on our culture. The past is replete with examples of favorable judgments
that assisted this steady progression towards destruction of what made
America great.
- From Roe vs. Wade to the recent pronouncement of the
ninth circuit court of appeals disallowing the pledge of allegiance in
schools, this complicity is well documented.
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- Why are the Globalists intent on destroying the moral
fiber of America? Subjugating a population can be accomplished either overtly
or covertly. An overt takeover would require bloodshed, and generate negative
reactions that would reverberate throughout the world. A covert takeover,
by the shadow government executing an agenda hidden from public view, is
a much more desirable methodology. Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin learned
this lesson well. Using cultural and economic weapons, an uneducated population
spoiled by hedonistic pleasures and a luxurious lifestyle will succumb
to tyranny gladly if convinced that this acquiescence will restore a semblance
of their former way of life. By destroying self-respect, moral beliefs,
education, and strong family cohesion, you are removing the underlying
strength of character necessary to stand up to tyranny and anarchy. Historically,
decadence precedes the destruction of an empire. The Globalists are exerting
every effort to enhance the process of decay in America in preparation
for their upcoming worldwide tyrannical dictatorship.
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- Contact the author at mschelstrate@msn.com.
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The views expressed in this article may not necessarily be those of Alex
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- Comment
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- From THE ZEPH REPORT
zed7@earthlink.net
1-24-3
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- Jeff - When people turn from God, they become hedonists...it
is a natural progression. What else is there but hedonism given nothing
absolute to respect or any sense of direction?
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- And hedonism--the pursuit of pleasure usually at the
expense of others--leads to decadence, leads to a lack of civility and
moral conscience. Hence, let us call it what it truly is...Satanism.
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- A close cousin of Hedonism, Satanism is the pursuit of
pleasure in direct proportion to the suffering of others. To win, others
must lose, and lose big. Now, with this working model or definition of
Satanism then...let us look at America.
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- 1) Prosperity at the expense of others? check
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- 2) Solving the world's hunger and poverty as promised?
no
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- 3) War for profit? check
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- 4) Corporate politics/social climbing at the expense
of others? check
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- 5) Decency quotient: live and let live? ('course not)
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- 6) Elitism: initiations involving hazing, harrassment?
A tradition
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- 7) people sensitive to others different than themselves?
Not a chance
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- 8) Shunning those who are different or do not conform?
A way of life
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- AMERICAN VALUES REVISITED
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- Racism, sexism, elitism, predjudice, greed, hatred, war-mongering,
obesitity, perversion, animosity, hostility, ignorance, profanity, disrespect,
diseducation and wanton disregard for truth...these are the values America
seems to be obsessed with. (or distracted and programmed into)
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- Yes, people may still work hard, but only to the extent
it buys them something they can flaunt.
-
- Hedonism, indeed. Elitism or snobbery to all outside
your...class? You bet. Warmongering will continue. War on drugs, on poverty
and disease--lost...no money in winning those things.
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- Lost because nobody wanted to rock the boat. Motive?
Greed.
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- Is it the worship of Money...hedonism, satanism? Yes,
assuredly.
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- Solution. Turn back to God...whatever that means--many
of you have souls...contact your soul and ask it what to do. You might
be surprised.
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- But I don't think many of us will feel so wonderful when
our consciences, long sleeping, reawaken.
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- Best to you, Jeff.
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- Your conscience has been a light to many. Thanks for
staying true.
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- Minister Zeph Daniel
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- Comment
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- The United States Of Mystery Babylon
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- By Eric Jewell
- Editor@endtimezwarriorz.com
- 1-26-3
- Today, those of us living in the United States of America,
who consider themselves either religious, right wing, or constitutionalists,
need not look far to see the depths of degradation to which this once great
nation has fallen. Many of us who have studied the ushering end of the
New World order (the old catch phrase itself having new life breathed into
it by our former president George Bush) have come to see that the main
players ushering in this time of the captivity of the masses, have risen
to the top of the power structure of this nation, and have monopolized
the financial institutions of the world. It can be rightly said that the
United States is no longer just the most powerful nation on the face of
this earth, but in every sense of the word has true become a world ruling
empire. She has become the vehicle used by powerful man, who have exploited
her resources and population and military might, to bribe and kill and
to manipulate the world's rulers into compliance with her agenda. Who can
argue the fact that we rule the affairs of this world?
- As a student of biblical end time prophecy, I have been
faced several times with the question "if we truly are living close
to the time of the end, why is the United States not mentioned in the Scripture
when it is obvious she is the most powerful nation on Earth?" The
truth is that the Scripture spends much time and goes into much detail
describing America and her end time antics. Sadly as well, ominous warnings
are giving concerning our soon coming destruction. By soon of course, I
refer to a time span of several years. One may wonder if I make the statements
out of conjectured opinion or lunacy, or is it really in the Bible? Allow
me to simply present the facts so that the reader may make up his or her
own mind.
- Many of the readers will be somewhat familiar with biblical
prophecy, along with its basic terminology, and some of the basic meanings.
For instance many reading are aware that the beast referred to in the book
of revelation apply both to the man known as antichrist, and the world
system by which he rules. The Roman Empire was the last vehicle used by
which man enslaved man consuming the entire known world. Before the Roman
Empire, we had the empire of Alexander the great. Before Alexander, we
had the Medio-Persian empire. Before the Medio Persian empire we had the
Babylonian empire. Before the Babylonians the world quaked under the might
of the Egyptians. Finally before the Egyptians, we had the original one
world order under Nimrod who rule the world from Babel. Today in every
true sense of the word the United States rules this present world more
efficiently and with more might and cunning than all of the Empires before
her. Bearing this in mind consider the following passage from Revelation
17.
- Revelation 17
- 1. And there came one of the seven angels which had the
seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew
unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
- 2. With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication,
and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of
her fornication.
- 3. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness:
and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy,
having seven heads and ten horns.
- 4. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour,
and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup
in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
- 5. And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY,
BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
- In this very short passage of Scripture, we have an abundance
of subtle hints which will begin to reveal the identification of the one
known as "the harlot". First of all, and seemingly unimportant
at first, is the fact that she is called the great whore. Bear in mind
that a harlot, or whore, is born just as innocent a child as any. It is
only as she grows and matures that she begins to sink into the degradation
of whoredoms. Such as the case of this once great nation. The United States
was born in innocence and purity and founded on the blood of men who held
the concepts of the Bible dear to their hearts. As we grew in wealth and
military might these last 50 years are a testimony that we abused these
resources. Looking at verse 4 we see the harlot for what she is, we see
a picture of America. We have every precious thing and a golden cup in
our hand but it has become an abomination and filthy. How blessed we have
been by God as a nation, but look at every facet of our society and see
will we have chosen to do with our blessings.
- Notice in verse 2 that the harlot seduces all the kings
of the world, and by hook or by crook this is exactly what we have done
as a nation. Our money, technology, luxuries, and all manner of incentives
have bought many a nation, and many a leader. Entire ancient cultures have
been influenced and changed by the things we fill the world with. Notice
here in chapter 17 as well, the the harlot sits upon the beast. She is
the rider of the beast. A rider guides. The application here is that the
harlot will guide the beast and the direction that she would have it to
go. Indeed as a nation the United States is guiding the beast in the direction
that she would have to go. Few would deny the fact that we (the United
States) are now guiding world agenda, leading the world in our desired
direction.
- Also in this passage you will see that the harlot and
the beast sit upon many waters. We need not try to interpret this ourselves,
as the scriptures further in this chapter tell us exactly what this means;
- 15. And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest,
where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and
tongues.
- The United States of America used to be called the melting
pot of the world. The very simple reason for this is that we were made
up from every people in tongue and nation on the face of this earth. Realizing
these few things that have just been presented, it is easy to see that
thus far the empire of the United States of America unfortunately fits
rather nicely the description of the harlot sitting upon the beast, a.k.a.
"mystery Babylon".
- Further here in chapter 17, we also see;
- 18. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city,
which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
- Remember that this passage was written nearly 2000 years
ago when Rome ruled the world. Rome was a city but Rome was an empire.
In other words at the time this was written a city was considered a nation.
Realizing this, we cannot deny that the United States of America is that
great nation which presently reigns over the kings of this earth.
- For further description let us move on to chapter 18.
- Revelation 18
-
- 2. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying,
Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of
devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean
and hateful bird.
- There can be no doubt that as a nation, morally we have
fallen. Who can argue the fact that we have become full of hatred and foul
spirits and uncleanness of every sort down to the sexual abuse and murder
of our children?
- 3. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath
of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication
with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance
of her delicacies.
- Who can argue the fact that we as a nation have intoxicated
the kings of the earth? Who can argue the fact that we as a nation have
made the merchants of the world rich through the abundance of our delicacies?
Consider NAFTA.
- 7. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously,
so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit
a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
- Who can argue the fact that we have glorified ourselves
and lived deliciously? Who can argue the fact that we have said in our
own hearts as a nation, "I sit as a queen, I am not a widow, I will
see no sorrow!"
- To see further description of the end time mystery Babylon,
I would suggest that those interested in biblical prophecy concerning America,
refer also to Jeremiah chapter 50 and chapter 51. The big question is,
if America truly is mystery Babylon, and referred to in the Scripture as
the most powerful nation on earth, what will be her end?
- Revelation 18
-
- 8. Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death,
and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for
strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
- 9. And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication
and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when
they shall see the smoke of her burning,
- 10. Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying,
Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour
is thy judgment come.
- 17. For in one hour so great riches is come to nought.
And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as
many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
- 18. And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning,
saying, What city is like unto this great city!
- 19. And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping
and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich
all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour
is she made desolate.
- 21. And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone,
and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city
Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
- One last question which may be asked might be, "how
soon can we expect this terrible destruction?" If indeed the United
States of America is mystery Babylon, this means by necessity antichrist
also shall come from this nation. We see also that mystery Babylon is destroyed
near the end of the tribulation and we can be assured that the tribulation
has not as yet started. The seven-year time span commonly referred to as
the tribulation will be started by a negotiated treaty which will divide
the nation of Israel for the creation of a new Palestinian state. This
same treaty will also allow for the rebuilding of Solomon's Temple. Once
we see these things transpire, we can begin our countdown for the destruction
of America, and she will have less than seven years.
- Eric Jewell
- Editor@endtimezwarriorz.com
- www.endtimezwarriorz.com
- Comment
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- From Dan Hacker
d.hacker@mindspring.com
1-26-3
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- Regarding your article Rampant Hedonism - The Destruction
Of America and the response from Minister Zeph Daniel:
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- I find it interesting that most of the words used by
Minister Daniel to describe the so-called hedonists are exactly the words
I would use to describe many so-called religionists:
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- Racism (no race mingling) Sexism (no female priests,
women are subordinate) Elitism (chosen by God) Prejudice (homosexuality
is an abomination!) Hatred, war-mongering (countless wars based on religion)
Perversion (Priests gone astray) Ignorance (if it can't be explained it
must be God)
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- Of course, they would paint the entire population of
us godless folk with the hedonist brush. I know it's hard for them to see
it, but a god is not required to have a life with respect and a sense of
direction. We know in our minds (Minister Daniel might call them souls)
that if the human race is to survive and have meaning than it is up to
us to do this for ourselves; no invisible being in the sky is going to
help (except for the possible though unlikely intervention of aliens, of
course). We treat others with respect because that is how we ourselves
want to be treated. The 'natural progression' is to live a life of peace
and happiness, to extend the existence of our species in the continuum,
to perpetuate our offspring which requires us to work together and be kind
to one another. As an atheist, I would extend this concept to all creatures
of the world, yet look at what is done to the billions of creatures not
able to defend themselves against an onslaught of humanity. Many religionists
see these creatures as existing only for humanity's benefit, which is absurd.
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- If anything, this perceived shift in consciousness is
a rebound, a backlash, to the tyranical control mechanisms of the past
and present. Most of the people responsible for the negativity in the world
would actually say they believe in a god! Would Minister Daniel actually
have us believe that the same motives are behind both the hoards (?) of
naughty common-folk and the mega-powerful heads of industry (the ones that
truly have the power and motive to muck things up)? Again he's painting
with broad strokes but I don't understand who he's claiming is responsible
for these perceived ills.
-
- I just wanted to set the record straight, that we are
not to blame for the problems of this world, those of us who choose to
think for ourselves and cast off the belief systems of our misguided yet
noble ancestors. We are waiting for the religionists that are 'long sleeping'
to 'reawaken' to reality, as lonely and isolated as it may be. To reawaken
for the very first time, no less. The irony is that it is more wondrous
and fascinating when the vineer of religion is lifted from your eyes; the
mysteries of the world don't stop with a god, they continue as far as your
mind can reach.
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- Jeff, I've enjoyed your site for many years. I respect
your ability to allow all viewpoints a seat at the table and a place to
be heard. I hope to enjoy your site for many years to come. Thank you for
all the hard work.
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- Dan Hacker
Redmond, WA
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- Reply
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- From Zeph
zed7@earthlink.net
1-26-3
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- Jeff,
-
- Mr. Hacker, who blended me into his commentary on "Rampant
Hedonism in America" by Mike Schelstrate, is mistaken about one thing:
I am not a religionist, though he suggested this. While I understand he
is against organized religion, I'm no part of any organization, as you
may already know.
-
- For the record: I was invited to leave the church for
writing my book, LAMB, and calling for the churches of America to be shut
down.
-
- The modern, organized church today would reject Jesus
and John the Baptist because they would not conform. They would be seen
as rebels, as in the days of the Pharisees. That is unacceptable to me.so
I'm out.
-
- Now that this is out of the way, I do have a couple questions
for Mr. Hacker. Does he believe in spirituality at all--or is this just
a random universe based on evolution?-and could you actually have "random
anything" with the what I call the most obvious religion: "Evolution"?
-
- Would Mr. Hacker grant one thing: that the 2nd Law of
Thermodynamics would tend to disprove evolution? That things do not get
better in time?
-
- Would Mr. Hacker dismiss the war for oil in the Middle
East as just an evolutionary mistake--something we inherited from our ancestors...or
is it depravity?
-
- Would the warmongers then be considered just victims
of their pasts and not responsible for anything?
-
- I would like to hear what Mr. Hacker actually means by
"reawaken"--if he has an answer, then he should share it with
the world, not take some elitist high road and claim that we Christians
are too stupid and prejudiced to understand.
-
- He also made the insinuation that the Bible is evil,
and the cause of our human condition. He rejects all of God's ways by
listing a few things out of context as evidence of the Bible's obvious
inaccuracy...God's ways are a problem for a lot of people, especially those
who wish to view man as basically good. I know myself, and I am not basically
good. How do I know that? Because my conscience tells me for one thing.
I need help...and fortunately, help is available to all who ask. Those
who reject the help, have the God-given free will to do so.
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- As for Mr. Hacker's tone, I appreciate his politeness
and civility. I wish some of my Christian brothers and sisters would be
as polite and thoughtful when debating each other.
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- I believe the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God.
Mr. Hacker, Christians would assert, is not qualified (as he admits to
being an atheist) to comment accurately on what the Bible says or God's
ways, since he has dismissed the validity of God and the Bible.
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- God's ways are not our own. Isaiah 55:8-9 says: For
my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith
the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways
higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
-
- Jeff, Mr. Hacker does not know what a Christian really
is. It's not a political wing, it's a way of life--it is Life, that is,
Eternal Life, which we believe is our true inheritance in Christ.
-
- "Born again" means a new life--it means being
purchased by the Blood of Christ. Technically, it means we belong to Jesus,
that we are bondservants or even slaves of Jesus!
-
- Also, we believe that Jesus is God.and when we are born
again, he lives in our hearts. No longer our way, but His way.that is
how we think. Mr. Hacker suggests that those with this view are asleep...we
insist that those with Mr. Hacker's position are asleep.
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- Finally, being a Christian means no longer conformed
man's ways, but God's. No longer conformed to this world, but Christ.
Christians are all works in progress...not perfect. Many believe that
Christians are hypocrites because after being born again they struggle
with sin. Man for millennia has tried to make sin "not sin"--to
say man is good...that man gets better in time, that man is the captain
of his own ship, that man can do all things...
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- For the record, I do not believe this. I believe that
man is fallen, and needs a Savior, and I stand with all people who believe
this.
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- Lastly, I do believe that the atheistic point of view
is incorrect. I do have that bias. I do not condemn Mr. Hacker for his
point of view, however. I condemn the point of view. I'm sure Mr. Hacker
and I would have a splendid time playing Backgammon, if I knew how to play
Backgammon.
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- Thanks, Jeff, for the courage to post all the voices.
May the Lord richly bless you. There I said it!
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- Minister Zeph Daniel
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