- Correction
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- From Michael Roll
mike@mroll.freeserve.co.uk
11-25-2
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- Jeff, I have now done further homework regarding the
BBC Radio 4 'Today' Programme that went out on 2nd October 2001. It featured
the Cambridge University Nobel Laureate for Physics Prof. B.D. Josephson
after he had linked so-called paranormal phenomena with the scientific
discipline of subatomic physics.
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- A representative from the programme has just phoned me
back. Randi was on the programme but not live. They played a clip of Randi
saying that those who link paranormal phenomena with subatomic physics
are "scoundrels". Josephson destroyed Randi's arguments on the
programme but I was in error if I gave the impression Randi was destroyed
in live debate. We have that still to look forward to. So far to my knowledge
this has just not taken place in the UK.
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- Michael
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- --Original Message---
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- From: Burt Brown To: mike@mroll.freeserve.co.uk Sent:
24 November 2002 02:15 Subject: Randi and his gang's funding
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- Dear Mike:
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- I saw a recent post from you on Rense.com speaking of
James Randi and his bunch of debunkers. You mentioned their seemingly unlimited
source of funds and I too have found this very interesting and unusual.
Do you by any chance have any knowledge as to where these funds come from?
Any leads or hints that you might supply me so I can do a bit of digging?
Ever hear of any religious or governmental connections to their group.
Even the smallest hint may give me a suitable lead and I would be most
grateful.
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- Many thanks,
Burt Brown
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- From: Michael Roll
<mike@mroll.freeserve.co.uk>
To: Burt Brown
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002
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- Burt, many thanks for making contact. Please make contact
with our lawyer Dr. Victor Zammit. He has really got the number of James
Randi.
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- This debunker is the establishment front man for the
whole of the religious and scientific establishments throughout the world.
The mind boggles at the sort of funding that he must have access to.
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- I can only speak for the UK but over here Randi is billed
as world's foremost expert on the paranormal. The staggering thing is that
whenever the subject crops up on any media outlet this magician holds court
on all outlets, especially in front of millions on television. Our professors
of physics from Cambridge University, Wadhams and Josephson, who disagree
with Randi are never allowed on British TV to balance Randi's case that
death is the end of everything! It's this injustice that has made me fighting
mad.
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- The only time the "great" Randi has ever been
balanced on the British media was when the Nobel Laureate for physics,
Josephson, linked the so-called paranormal with subatomic physics in a
blaze of publicity in October 2001. Josephson was invited on BBC Radio
4. The Producer thought he would be very clever and stuck Randi up against
this great scientist. Until that moment Randi had only come up against
soft tarkets like mediums who did not know hay from a bulls foot about
subatomic physics. Needless to say Josephson totally destroyed Randi in
debate. All Randi could do was to call him a "scoundrel"on the
air! Game, set, match and championship to the scientist. But hardly any
person heard this on morning radio.
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- Randi was given a six part TV series on mediumship and
the "paranormal". The astrophysicist, Sam Nicholls, wrote to
the Granada studios warning them that Randi was a professional wrecker
and that there would be no balance as the law demanded in the UK in order
to fall in line with Article 19 of The United Nations Universal Declaration
of Human Rights: "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinon and
expression: this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference
and to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas through any media
and regardless of frontiers."
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- Nicholls warning was completely ignored and Randi was
given the go-ahead! To his credit Nicholls put up a fight. He turned up
at the Granada studios when Randi was making the series. Nicholls stood
up and challenged this foreign magician. Randi panicked when confronted
by a qualified scientist and ordered all the cameras to be switched off!
Thankfully, all this was recorded for posterity and I am sure someone will
now expose this self-styled expert on life after death and related subjects.
As our lawyer Victor Zammit will confirm, Randi's million dollar offer
is a hoax, a trick, the same as most everything conected with this magician.
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- Reference: The Sun August 8th 1991. Last night's verdict
on JAMES RANDI: PSYCHIC INVESTIGATOR. ITV. 9 pm.
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- Journalist Garry Bushell told the truth to millions.
He asked, "Why are not scientists who claim there is a rational case
for a belief in life after death allowed to speak?"
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- "Why have their arguments been kept off TV? I hear
that comments from astrophysicist Sam Nicholls were cut from the show on
mediums. Why?"
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- "Could it be that Randi, a conjurer and escapologist,
is only interested in easy targets?"
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- Michael Roll
Tel. 0117 9561960
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- Comment
- Getting The Facts Straight
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- By Michael Roll
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- To James Randi
randi@randi.org
11-26-2
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- James, please do the exercise that I did. Phone the BBC
Tel. 020 7580 4468 and ask for the 'Today' Programme. They were most helpful.
The person who answered the phone took all the details of the broadcast
on 2nd October 2001 and said he would ring me back. He confirmed that they
played a tape of you speaking generally about scientists who link so-called
paranormal phenomena and survival after death as being "scoundrels".
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- I am sorry I gave the impression that you had been destroyed
in debate on a live broadcast. Even though we are on opposite sides of
the fence it's very important to always get things like this straight.
It must have made you angry to be accused of being on a radio show that
you did not in fact take part in.
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- However, I am sure you can see why I am also angry that
qualified professors of physics who disagree with you are not allowed to
balance your arguments on media and educational outlets in the UK. "I
will fight to the death for your right" to present your case that
the so-called paranormal does not exist. If only you would do the same
thing for those of us who are adamant that survival after death is a secular
subject and all covered in the scientific discipline of subatomic physics.
Only the American broadcaster Jeff Rense dares to present our case against
you. This can't be right in what is meant to be a free country. For a start
it's totally against Article 19 of The United Nations Universal Declaration
of Human Rights. This demands a balance of "information and ideas
through any media, and regardless of frontiers."
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- However, we have the consolation that the longer uncomfortable
discoveries in physics are censored, in order to keep the old-boy network
intact, then the bigger the explosion when people eventually find out just
how badly they are being deceived by those who decide what information
reaches the people, but more importantly, what does not reach them.
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- Michael Roll
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- --- Original Message ---
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- From: James Randi <randi@randi.org> To: michael
roll <mike@mroll.freeserve.co.uk> Sent: 25 November 2002 20:36 Subject:
Re: Did this BBC Radio broadcast take place?
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- I'd really like to hear me use "scoundrel."
May I? I don't think it has EVER been a part of my vocabulary...
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- James Randi.
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- Comment
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- From Wayne Fenner
- fuzzy@centralhouse.net
- 11-27-2
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- Randi ~
- Beautiful!! What a truly "magnificent" job
you did on Michael Roll, completely side-stepping the entire gist of his
message to you, evading his every sincere and honest concern and switching
the subject to a juvenile word-fight! What a masterful example
of successful debunking technique! What an exemplary demonstration of pseudo-science! What
a "Klass"-y way to help him prove his point, and to illustrate,
once again, that your scurrilous shenannigans have no place in modern,
intelligent scientific investigations!
- The sad thing is that such a small percentage of the
"great unwashed" out there will ever see this splendid literary
accomplishment, and will go thru life without ever hearing about you, and
your perfection of the concept of negative analysis! Oh, the shame!
- By the way, home come your e-address is an .org? Shouldn't
it be a .con?
- I think you might find this of interest!
- <http://www.rense.com/general32/randi.htm>http://www.rense.com/general32/randi.htm
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- Comment
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- From James Randi
- randi@randi.org
- To wayne fenner
- 11-28-2
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- Dear "fuzzy":
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- Thank you, smooth talker! No fooling you, huh?
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- James Randi.
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