- Note - American aerosol spraying researcher Clifford
Carnicom, in May of 2002, announced he had discovered an extraordinarily
high level of deadly barium now exists in our air and is, in his considered
opinion, directly related to the aerosol-chemtrail spraying operations
which have been extant over America and much of the planet for nearly four
years now.
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- To read his research and findings, go to http://carnicom.com/contrails.htm
and take the link 'Electrolysis And Barium' located near the top of the
main page. Barium is, without question, on a par with arsenic as a deadly
toxin.
-
- The following article articulates the dimensions of the
health threat posed to all of us by barium and most especially so since
it has been determined to now exist in high levels in the air we breath.
-JR
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- Death By Barium
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- By Dr. Anil Aggrawal
- Professor of Forensic Medicine
- Maulana Azad Medical College
- New Delhi, INDIA
- From The Poison Sleuths Journal
- 12-9-2
-
- (Reprinted By Special Permission Of Professor Aggrawal
c. 2002-3 Dr. Anil Aggrawal All Rights Reserved. May not be reproduced
in any media.)
-
-
- Note - To protect the identity of the individuals, their
names, as well as the various dates of occurrence have been changed.
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- "Good morning doctor. Oh, my God, what are you doing
today? You have the dead body of a man. What happened to him? Please tell
me."
-
- "Good morning Tarun. The name of this 37 year old
man is Kantilal, and he has died this morning in the hospital. He is married
to 23 year old Asha, and they don't have any children. It is rumored that
Asha had an affair with a 24 year old person Sohan. He works in a chemical
factory. They perhaps wanted to marry too, but obviously Asha could not
marry him without first divorcing Kantilal, and he would not agree for
it."
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- "Oh, I see. So Asha and Sohan gave some poison to
Kantilal and finished him off. Right?"
-
- "Don't jump to conclusions Tarun. You may be right,
but listen to the story first. Then you can perhaps make a more logical
and scientific deduction. Yesterday night Asha gave her husband the dinner
as usual. Just after having his dinner, Kantilal became severely ill. He
complained of nausea, vomiting and diarrhea along with severe abdominal
pain. He complained of dryness of mouth and tightness in the throat, generalized
weakness and headache too. In addition, he felt numbness and tingling around
his mouth. However the most alarming symptoms were a paralysis of his both
lower legs. His wife thought these symptoms were probably due to exhaustion
and advised him to rest in bed, but he insisted on calling his doctor.
Despite his wife's constant advice to the contrary, he called his doctor.
The doctor immediately advised hospitalization. In the hospital, investigations
were being carried out to diagnose his illness, but in the meantime he
died. Since this is quite an unexpected death, and the hospital doctors
had not been able to come to any conclusion regarding his illness, the
police has handed over his body to me to find out the cause of death. They
are suspecting that Asha gave him some poisonous substance last night in
his dinner. If this hunch proves to be correct, Asha could land in jail
for a long period."
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- "So what do you think, Kantilal died of?"
-
- "Tarun, I have gone through the hospital records.
I have found that he had muscular twichings too. The doctors have also
recorded that he was not able to pass the urine normally and that once
he vomited blood. There was a slowing of his heart beat and he was found
to have high blood pressure. All these findings point only to one poison......"
-
- "What is it doctor? Please tell me. I am getting
curious."
-
- "Well, the poison appears to be a salt of barium,
perhaps barium chloride."
-
- "Barium? Never heard of it being used as a homicidal
poison."
-
- "Yeah, you may be right. Not many cases of homicidal
cases with barium are known, which is surprising, because barium can indeed
be used quite successfully as a homicidal poison."
-
- "Okay, in this case how are you going to prove to
the court that Kantilal did in fact die to barium poisoning?"
-
- "I am quite confident of proving that, but to understand
how I can do that, you must perhaps know a little bit about barium. The
history is replete with interesting stories of poisoning with barium."
-
- "Oh doctor, as I told you earlier, I like good juicy
stories about poisons. Please tell me more about barium."
-
- "Tarun, Barium was discovered by the Swedish chemist
Karl Wilhelm Scheele in 1774. He can probably be called the unluckiest
chemist in history, for although he discovered several elements such as
chlorine, manganese, barium and several others, he does not receive undisputed
credit for having discovered a single one. In some cases chemists independently
made the same discovery a little sooner. In others Scheele did not quite
carry matters far enough and other chemists took the last step and got
the credit. Anyway, I told you that just as an interesting historical sideline."
-
- "Oh, yes. That is indeed very interesting. I read
somewhere that barium preparations are used as a rat poison. Is it true?"
-
- "Tarun, over a century ago, barium preparations
were used in the treatment of scrofula, which is a form of tuberculosis.
It has also been used as a sudorific. A sudorific is an agent which promotes
sweating. You might wonder why anybody would want to promote sweating in
anyone. Well, sweating as you know brings the temperature of the body down,
and at one time this was a favorite method of controlling fever. Furthermore,
in ancient days people believed that many poisons can get excreted through
the sweat, so to treat any poisoning, doctors recommended sudorifics. The
idea was that they would induce so much sweating that all poison would
come out along with it. Barium salts have also been used as a diuretic.
It is an agent which promotes urinary excretion. Diuretics were also recommended
in many poisonings. So you can see, barium salts were in rampant use in
ancient times. But barium is quite toxic to the human body and this fact
was soon recognized."
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- "Oh, so barium salts are not used in modern medicine
at all?"
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- "That is not the case Tarun. There are several salts
of barium almost all of which are poisonous except one- barium sulphate.
And this salt finds good used in modern diagnostics. This is routinely
used in radiography. Doctors use this when they want to take radiographs
of the patient's stomach and intestines. The patient is given a glass of
barium sulphate suspension to drink. This fills the stomach and intestines.
Then the doctor takes the X-ray. By this method, stomach and intestines
are very clearly seen in the X-ray. Almost all other salts of barium are
poisonous. Barium salts which are poisonous are Barium carbonate, barium
nitrate, barium chloride, barium hydroxide, barium sulfide, barium chlorate
and barium acetate. Out of these barium carbonate and barium sulphide are
often used as a rat poison as you mentioned earlier. In fact all these
barium salts which I mentioned can cause serious poisoning in man. Barium
carbonate and barium chloride are most often responsible for poisonings
in man."
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- "Doctor, how is it that certain salts of barium
are so poisonous that they have been used as rat poisons and can even cause
serious poisoning in man, while other salts of barium are routinely given
to patients for diagnosis? It appears almost as a paradox to me."
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- "Tarun, it all depends on the solubility of the
salt. The chloride and nitrate are well soluble in water. The carbonate
is much less soluble in water but is soluble in dilute acids. All other
poisonous salts that I mentioned are also soluble either in water or in
dilute acids. So once they are ingested by a human being, they get dissolved
in the hydrochloric acid of the stomach and can get absorbed. Sulfate on
the other hand is the least soluble compound in any medium. That is why
it is non poisonous and is even routinely used in diagnostics. In fact,
when a case of barium poisoning comes to the doctor, his first line of
treatment is to give about 5-10 g of sodium sulphate or magnesium sulphate
to the patient, so that the poisonous barium salt may get converted to
insoluble and harmless barium sulphate."
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- "Oh, I see. Are there other uses for barium salts
in modern times too."
-
- "Barium salts are used in a number of industrial
processes, but I will not go into the details of that. I would only limit
myself to the use of barium salts in day-to-day life. This is important,
because this is how a poisoner can get hold of the poisonous salt. Barium
sulphide in a cream is sometimes used as a depilatory, i.e. to remove hair.
And as I told you earlier, it has also been used as a rat poison. Barium
carbonate is more commonly used as a rat poison however."
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- "Doctor, since when is barium being used to poison
people?"
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- "Tarun, I must tell you that till now barium has
not been used much by the poisoner to kill people, although it has several
properties of an ideal homicidal poison (for ideal homicidal poisons, see
"Arsenic- the King of Poisons", Science Reporter February 1997).
Barium has been used for suicide, but this poisoning has mostly remained
accidental till now. And very rarely barium has been taken by women to
procure abortion. The first case of poisoning by any of the barium salts
was reported in 1868, when a case of poisoning by barium nitrate was reported.
Since then several interesting cases of barium poisoning have been reported.
A case was described in 1921, where a bag of flour was stolen from a store
at some docks. It was used to make noodles for the family. Five persons
were poisoned and one of them died. Later the flour was found to contain
23% of barium carbonate! So quite ironically the thief received punishment
without undergoing any trial. Another case occurred in 1948, in which severe
but non-fatal poisoning resulted when a woman tasted some icing on a cake
she had made. She had used a product called "Stafford starch"
to set the icing. Analysis demonstrated that Stafford starch contained
upto 55% barium carbonate. It was withdrawn from sale in 1956. Barium salts
have been mistaken for other products and taken. In 1951, for instance,
a patient was ordered barium sulphate prior to X-ray examination of his
stomach, but owing to a mixing of the stock in the chemist's shop, barium
carbonate was supplied. The patient became seriously ill after the X-ray
examination and died in spite of prompt treatment. In yet another case,
a workman in a chemical factory took home some crystals of barium chloride
from the poison store and gave some to a neighbour, who used them in a
foot bath in the belief that the substance was a "health salt".
His wife, in like belief, handed some to a woman aged 27, who died after
ingesting about 8-10 g."
-
- "Oh, they are very interesting cases indeed!"
-
- "Early in this century, it was the practice to add
an artificial rind to gorgonzola cheese by applying a mixture of barium
sulphate and talc....."
-
- "Sorry to interrupt you doctor, but what exactly
is gorgonzola cheese?"
-
- "Tarun, Gorgonzola cheese is a strongly flavoured,
hard pressed variety of white Italian cheese veined with mold. It is named
after a small town in Lombardy, in Northern Italy, just a few miles east
of Milan. It is a very popular kind of cheese even today. So it is interesting
that despite applying barium sulphate on it, no one was poisoned."
-
- "Oh, but that is what is to be expected. You told
me earlier that barium sulphate is the only form of barium which is non
poisonous."
-
- "That's right Tarun. I am happy you are listening.
But actually commercial forms of barium sulfate may be contaminated with
other soluble barium salts, and indeed such forms of barium sulfate may
prove to be poisonous. But in the case that I mentioned, certainly the
manufacturers seem to have been using a very pure form of barium sulfate.
-
- "Oh, I see!"
-
- "Tarun there have been some other mass poisoning
incidents in which barium salts were involved. In the Chinese province
of Szechuan, in the district of Ipin, an endemic condition, Pa-Ping, has
been described since 1930, the cause of which was eventually attributed
to food poisoning from the very high proportion of barium chloride in the
table-salt mined there. The poisoning was restricted to the workers in
the salt mines and others who ate the salt from there. The poisoned people
showed symptoms of nausea, vomiting, ocassional diarrhea, and muscular
paralysis. Analysis of salt has shown it to be contaminated by barium chloride
in concentrations of up to 25.69%. Fortunately fatalities were rare. Similarly
a poisoning incident of the British Army occurred in 1945. In that year,
British Army was stationed in Persia. They ate some pastry made of flour,
and immeditely thereafter 85 of them became severely ill. It was later
discovered that a sack in the flour store, containing 4 lb of barium carbonate,
had been filled with flour and issued to the unit! It was found that an
average portion of pastry contained about 15 g of barium carbonate! Fortunately
in this case too, there were no fatalities. Yet another epidemic occurred
in an Indian Unit of British Army stationed at Alexandria. In this outbreak
however, one person died. In this case too, it was shown that that the
flour had been contaminated by barium carbonate intended for use as a rat
poison."
-
- "Oh, they are indeed very interesting incidents."
-
- "There are more of such incidents Tarun. One of
the most well-known is the accidental poisoning of about 100 persons in
Israel in 1963. On Aug 21, 1963, more than 100 persons, ranging in age
from 15 to 56 years, fell ill in Israel, following the ingestion of sausage
made from turkey. Nineteen of them- 12 males and 7 females- had to be even
admitted to the Central Emek Hospital for treatment. The main symptoms
in these patients were diarrhoea, vomiting, generalized weakness, paralysis
ranging from weakness of one limb to complete quadriplegia, dryness of
the mouth, tightness in the throat, dysarthria, headache and muscular twitchings.
One of the most characteristic and constant symptoms was however paresthesia
around the mouth. This was described as numbness and tingling, without
impairment of touch, pain or temperature. In some patients the paresthesiae
spread to the hands and feet. The history of intake of food from a common
source, coupled with the fact that there were predominant neurological
symptoms led the doctors to believe initially that they were facing an
outbreak of botulism...."
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- "Sorry to interrupt you doctor, but what exactly
is botulism?"
-
- "Tarun, botulism is a form of food poisoning, which
occurs due to poor preservation of food. A dangerous bacterium Clostridium
botulinum infects such food, and produces a very dangerous nerve poison,
botulin. In fact, it is the most powerful and dangerous toxin known, with
the lethal dose as small as half of a microgram! Initially it was thought
that this bacterium infects only meat. In fact the word botulism comes
from the Latin Botulus meaning, "a sausage" signifying this earlier
belief. But now it is known that it can infect any type of food- even vegetables.
The symptoms of botulism may resemble that of barium poisoning. In fact,
so similar may be the symptoms that according to most doctors, barium poisoning
should always be considered as a possible diagnosis in all cases of food
poisoning accompanied by neurological complications. However there are
some differentiating features. For instance, in botulism, the patient usually
displays eye signs such as double vision (technically known as diplopia),
drooping of eye lids (technically known as ptosis) and abnormalities of
the pupil. In the Israel poisoning, eye signs were not present in any of
the victims, and this led the doctors to think towards barium poisoning.
The doctors looked for potassium depletion in the blood. This is a very
typical finding seen in barium poisoning. They did find very low potassium
levels in the blood (this condition is technically known as hypokalemia),
which seemed to confirm that the patiens indeed were suffering from barium
poisoning. On investigation, it was found that the turkey-sausage, made
by a local factory was contaminated heavily with barium carbonate..."
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- "Interesting! But how in the first place did it
get contaminated?"
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- "In the manufacture of that particular type of sausage,
potato meal was mixed with meat. On that particular day, by accident a
sack of barium carbonate had been sent to the factory in place of potato
meal and this is how the meat got contaminated! Earlier I was telling you
that most barium salts, except barium sulphate, prove poisonous because
they are soluble either in water or in dilute acids. This Israel poisoning
case proves this point very nicely. In this case children were not affected,
although many had eaten the affected food. Do you know why? The reason
was that children's stomachs have very low acidity, and in this low acidity,
barium carbonate could not get dissolved, and was thus not absorbed. More
interesting is the case of three persons, who had had previous gastrectomies....."
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- "What is a gastrectomy doctor?"
-
- "It is an operation in which the stomach is surgically
removed for some reason. Most commonly, it is removed because of cancer
of stomach. These three people who had had gatrectomies also ate the contaminated
food, but were not affected! This was also due to the fact that the barium
could not get absorbed in these patients. Intestines have an alkaline medium
in which barium carbonate is insoluble!"
-
- "Very interesting indeed. Doctor, just now you told
me that in barium poisoning, potassium levels of the blood are decreased.
Why does it occur?" "Tarun, Barium is physiologically antagonistic
to potassium. It is seen that somehow, barium is responsible for pumping
the potassium from the blood stream in to the cells. That is why hypokalemia
of barium poisoning is accompanied by increased intracellular potassium
levels. In addition, some potassium is also lost through vomiting and diarrhea
which occurs in barium poisoning."
-
- "This means that administration of potassium should
be a good treatment of barium poisoning?"
-
- "Oh, indeed it is. I am happy you are thinking.
Indeed, intravenous administration of potassium is a very effective treatment
of barium poisoning. In fact, in the British Army case, I just mentioned,
the soldiers were given solutions of potassium permanganate to drink! And
this worked dramatically and that's why there were no fatalities. Similarly
in the Pa-Ping outbreak, the workers were given a 5% solution of potassium
citrate, again with very good effect. Both these salts provided much needed
potassium to the patients."
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- "Doctor, how much of a barium salt can kill a human
being?" "Tarun the fatal dose of barium salts generally varies
between 1 and 15 g. The fatal dose of barium carbonate- one of most commonly
implicated salts- is about 0.8 g. Coupled with the fact, that this salt
is white, odourless and tasteless, this really makes a very good homicidal
poison. To prevent it being used as a homicidal poison, and mainly to prevent
an accidental intake of barium, an attempt has been made to add coloring
matter to barium carbonate. But this has proved futile because the rats
refuse to eat the colored food!"
-
- "Oh! And how quickly does a person die when given
a lethal dose of barium?" "Death usually occurs within an hour."
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- "Doctor, in the case of Kantilal, how are you going
to prove, that he indeed died of barium poisoning, and not food poisoning?"
-
- "Tarun, I have done post-mortem in this case, and
have found some findings which are seen in barium poisoning. For instance
there is evidence of inflammation of stomach and duodenum, accompanied
by numerous bleeding points in the wall of the stomach. I have found hemorrhages
in the left ventricle. These are called subendocardial hemorrhages. I have
also found severe pulmonary edema, which is a condition in which lungs
become water-logged. However these are not very specific findings and I
could not prove barium poisoning from these findings alone. The finding
that clinches my point is that barium barium has been found to be present
in the kidneys and spleen of Kantilal's dead body. Come, let us tell the
police that Kantilal has indeed died of barium poisoning. Now they can
question Asha and Sohan more rigorously and perhaps they will now come
out with the truth." "Oh, how very clever of you doctor. This
was a most interesting discussion. Tell me what are you going to tell me
the next time?"
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- "Tarun, next time, I would tell you about a very
interesting poison- Selenium "
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- IMPORTANT NOTE: THIS MATERIAL IS COPYRIGHTED BY THE AUTHOR
AND MAY NOT BE REPOSTED, REPRINTED OR OTHERWISE USED IN ANY MANNER WITHOUT
THE WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR
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- Professor article was first published in the May 1998
Issue of The Poison Sleuths under the title 'Death By Barium'
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- put at end of my barium story
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- Comment
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- Presence of Barium Carbonate in chemtrails
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- From D. H.
12-9-2
-
- Dear Jeff...
-
- How repeated dosing with even tiny amounts of toxic material
can cause serious symptoms which will eventually become energetically embedded
as a 'miasm'. > The subject of barium salts occurring in chemtrails
is interesting >from a homeopathic point of view.
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- Barium Carbonate is known as Baryta Carbonica and is
one of the major polychrest remedies utilised in homeopathy.
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- Dutch homeopath, Jan Scholten, describes the Essence
of the element:
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- Barium (Baryta) produces and cures within the human energy
body as:
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- Powerless, Small, Ridiculed, Retarded, Timid, Hiding
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- US homeopath Robin Murphy lists some of the symptoms
calling for Baryta Carb as:
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- Mistrustful. Shy of strangers, Forgets her errand or
word in her mouth. Loss of memory. Irresolute. Lost confidence in himself.
Hides behind the furniture and keeps the hands over the face, peeping through
the fingers. Timid. Cowardly.
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- It's the first remedy that most homeopaths would think
of when faced with a child with learning disabilities, or an elderly person
with dementia.
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- The symptoms Murphy describes are from the 'provings.'
A proving is a trial of a substance to see what it might treat, whereby
volunteers take tiny amounts of the substance daily until (temporary) symptoms
appear. These symptoms can then be collected and collated to form the basis
of what the substance in potency might treat - like cures like.
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- The presence in regular chemtrails of Barium could be
seen as a proving in a mass population, producing the kinds of symptoms
described. Of course, there is no voluntary cessation of the trial.
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- Baryta Carb also produces many physical symptoms, noticeable
among them problems with the testes and ovaries, and consequent reproductive
problems.
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- So there you have it - a dumbed down cowardly population
unable to reproduce. How ideal. The good news is that these effects can
be treated homeopathically, or rather isopathically, where you use the
same substance against the ill effects of a substance. Baryta Carb 30C
taken daily during and after suspect Barium laden chemtrails would help
clear barium salts from the body rather quickly, and could perhaps be combined
with Nux Vom6C am, and Sulphur6C pm for a few days for added detox effect.
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- Better still would be to make new remedies up from whole
collected chemtrail samples. > Cheers, D.H. Ref: Homeopathy and the
Elements Jan Scholten Stichting Alonnissos
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- Lotus Materia Medica - Robin Murphy Lotus Star Academy
1995
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- Comment
- 12-9-2
-
- Dear Jeff,
-
- My professional background: I did my bachelor in medicine
and surgery in 1977, and then proceeded to specialize in Forensic Medicine
and Toxicology in 1982. Currently, I am working as a professor of forensic
medicine and toxicology in Maulana Azad Medical College, New Delhi.
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- I edit an electronic journal, which is avidly read all
over the world. The link is given below.
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- I am providing some interesting links to you below.
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- Many thanks.
-
- Sincerely
- Professor Anil Aggrawal
- Professor of Forensic Medicine
- Maulana Azad Medical College
- S-299 Greater Kailash-1
- New Delhi-110048 INDIA
- Phone: 26465460, 26413101
- Email dr_anil@hotmail.com
- Page me via ICQ #19727771
-
- Websites
-
- 1.Tarun and Anil Aggrawal's Programming Page for Forensic
Professionals
- http://anil1956.tripod.com/index.html
- 2.Anil Aggrawal's Internet Journal of Forensic Medicine
and Toxicology
- http://anil299.tripod.com/indexpapers.html
- 3. Book reviews of latest forensic books/journals/software/multimedia
- http://anil299.tripod.com/sundry/reviews/publishers/pub001.html
- 4. Anil Aggrawal's Forensic Toxicology Page
- http://members.tripod.com/~Prof_Anil_Aggrawal/index.html
- 5. Anil Aggrawal's Popular Forensic Medicine Page
- http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/williamson/235
- 6. Anil Aggrawal's Internet Journal of Book Reviews
- http://anil_300.tripod.com/index.html
- 7. Forensic Careers
- http://www.fortunecity.com/campus/electrical/314/career.html
-
-
- *Many people ask me why I chose Forensic Medicine as
a career, and I tell them that it is because a forensic man gets the honor
of being called when the top doctors have failed!*
-
-
- Comment
-
- From CM Ross
12-9-2
-
- Dear Mr. Rense,
-
- If barium is indeed as lethal as the author states, then
this may indeed explain why it is a constituent of chemtrails.
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- This link says that barium is used as rat poison: http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Ba/uses.html
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- Please let your readers know about this!
-
- Thanks,
Miss Ross
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-
- Response and Comment
-
- From Clifford E Carnicom
- cecarnicom@earthlink.net
- 12-10-2
-
- Hi Jeff,
-
- I want to thank you for sending this to me and for making
it available to the public as well. I do hope that people will be able
to gain insight into the seriousness of the issue from this article, as
it is educational and written in a form that most should be able to understand.
Solubility of the various forms of barium has been a key point of education
since the unusual presence of this element was first indicated within the
research. All evidence and analysis points to the presence of soluble forms
with respect to the aerosol operations, especially from moisture observations
and subsequent pH results that have accumulated. There is an earlier page
on my site entitled "A Case For Testing" which essentially predicts
the existence of soluble forms of barium prior to the detection methods
that have evolved from grassroots research. It is also seen that solubility
is a key factor in the electrolysis experiments that I have conducted;
in that case it is important to understand that the precipitate being formed
is the PRODUCT of an induced reaction as opposed to a naturally occurring
event. The importance of the electrolysis result, if confirmed, is that
it supports the claim of existence for soluble forms of barium compounds
within the atmospheric environment. It is easy to have confusion on this
issue and to misstate the compounds in question, and that is another beneficial
purpose that Professor Aggrawal's article serves.
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- The most remarkable result which remains in effect is
the apparent lack of documented effort to either refute or confirm the
electrolysis findings within my research. Abrogation of duty by public
officials is all too evident at this stage; it should be a simple matter
to serve the public interest with proper resources and testing. As stated
earlier, the findings if confirmed should represent a grave concern to
all citizens. It is the responsibility of all citizens to mandate that
those who are obligated to serve the public welfare perform their duties;
environmental testing with independent verification is required. Individuals
are not obligated to perform the required tests; public officials are.
The luxury of infinite time for debate on the aerosol issue is not available
and serves no further purpose. Professional services from all disciplines
are needed; the lawyers and the health professionals are the first crusaders
that are long overdue. We are to face the truth that lies ahead, regardless
of where that shall lead.
-
- My gratitude is extended for your service to open discussion
and disclosure. The many citizens that contribute to our knowledge of truth
on these matters receive my equal thanks.
-
- Sincerely,
-
- Clifford E Carnicom
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