- As I had already deduced, Al-Jazeera is an Israeli-CIA
assett. Do a web search on Al-Jazeera TV and look up the english language
sites - it becomes obvious pretty soon that you are dealing with an Israeli
asset.
-
-
- The Taliban Home Video
- By Carol A. Valentine
- Curator, Waco Holocaust Electronic
Museum
- http://www.Public-Action.com
- 10-29-1
-
-
- Foreword: Long live the
principles of the American Revolution and the Bill of Rights. Those who
run our land today are traitors to the Old Republic, which they brought
down through cunning and stealth. They lie like Pharisees and demand our
loyalty to their impostor state, even as they use it as a puppet to advance
foreign interests. Exposing these traitors and foreign agents is clearly
my patriotic duty. I will not be intimidated into silence. Let the truth
be told, and let the chips fall where they may.
-
- _____________
-
- October 15 -- By now you have seen and digested the
Taliban
home video, allegedly showing Osama bin Laden and a couple of his buddies
sitting outside their cave in Afganistan, talking about Operation 911.
The video happened to surface on a "Muslim" TV station
(al-Jazeera)
in the puppet state of Qatar, just as the first US bombs were falling on
Afganistan.
-
- If the US and its pals could fake such a video -- and
they're easy to fake, either with morphing or stand-in impersonators --
why wouldn't they? Think about it. You're going to bomb a destitute
people
in a destitute land. You want to neutralize world outrage that will
inevitably
follow. So you have a man -- I'll call him Osama bin Fake-It -- speak
out as the bombs fall. Fake-it sends a message that offends world
conscience,
praising the slaughter of New York civilians, thereby neutralizing sympathy
the world might have for bin Laden's protectors (your intended bombing
victims).
-
- The makers of the Taliban Home Video rely upon our having
a short memory. They hope we won't remember an authentic CNN interview
with Osama Bin Laden, conducted by Peter Arnett and shown in March, 1997.
In that interview, bin Laden makes his views clear. In the 2001 Taliban
Home Video, bin Fake-it turns Bin Laden's views around 180 degrees.
Coincidentally,
the 180 degree turns just happen to serve US 2001 propaganda
purposes.
-
- The 1997 interview is now most newsworthy. Too bad CNN
has not re-released it, but keeping the public fully informed would not
serve the master's purpose. I have a copy of that 1997 CNN interview.
It was sent to me in 1998 and I distributed it with my commentary:
"Bin
Laden: A Patriot in His Own Land." Both are attached below for your
reading convenience.
-
- I would like to compare what Osama bin Laden said in
1997 with what Osama bin Fake-it says in 2001. As I do this, you'll
probably
want to refer to the transcript of bin Fake-it's remarks as shown on US
TV on October 7. I used the translation I found on the Houston Chronicle
webpage. http:/
/www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/terror/front/1079137
-
- As you read, remember that bin Laden and his comrades
brought the giant USSR to its knees. He is credited with being an
accomplished
strategist and tactician. http://www.afghan-we
b.com/history/articles/ussr.html
-
- Bin Laden is no fool.
-
-
- * Bin Laden on Striking Military Targets,
1997 CNN interview *
-
- Reporter: "Mr. bin Laden, you've declared a jihad
against the United States. Can you tell us why? And is the jihad directed
against the US government or the United States' troops in Arabia? What
about US civilians in Arabia or the people of the United
States?"
-
- Osama bin Laden: " . . . we have focused our
declaration
on striking at the soldiers in the country of The Two Holy Places [Mecca
and Medina] ... "
-
- Speaking of the bombings of US troops in Riyadh and
Al-Khobar
(Dhahran), bin Laden patiently explained their purpose was to get US
occupation
troops out of Arabia. He had high praise for those who did the job.
-
- Fair enough. In America, we also give high praise to
our soldiers when they perform heroically.
-
- Elsewhere in the interview, Arnett asks bin Laden if
the jihad will stop when US troops leave Arabia. Bin Laden replies he
wants US troops out of *all* Muslim lands.
-
- Let's consider the facts. US troops in Muslim lands
have two purposes: to suppress Arabs for Israel and to guarantee cheap
oil for the US. That is, US troop presence in Muslim lands is a violation
of our own Constitution, which says the armed forces are to be used for
the common defense of the Republic.
-
- Our forces in the Muslim lands are occupation armies.
Occupation armies don't leave when politely asked. George Washington
found that out, so he had to kill lots of British soldiers and officers
to drive them out. Bin Laden sees his job as the same. Surely occupation
armies must be willing to take what they are willing to dish out. Nothing
Mr. Bin Laden says here is unusual or unreasonable.
-
- * Bin Fake-it on Striking Military Targets,
2001 Taliban Home Video *
-
- Bin Fake-it makes no mention of military targets. Given
bin Laden's 1997 goals, Bin Fake-it seems oblivious to the outrageous flaw
in Operation 911: no military damage to the enemy. How very odd.
-
- * Bin Laden on Striking Civilian Targets,
1997 CNN interview.*
-
- In response to a question from Arnett, bin Laden says:
"As for what you asked whether jihad is directed against US soldiers,
the civilians in the land of the Two Holy Places (Mecca and Medina) or
against civilians in America, we have focused our declaration on striking
at the soldiers in the country of the Two Holy Places.
-
- "The country of the Two Holy Places has in our
religion
a peculiarity of its own over the other Muslim countries. In our religion,
it is not permissible for any non-Muslim to stay in our country. Therefore,
even though American civilians are not targeted in our plan, they must
leave ..."
-
- That's clear. Bin Laden is not targeting American
civilians.
He just wants them to leave his country.
-
- * Bin Fake-it on Striking Civilian Targets,
2001 Taliban Home Video *
-
- Speaking of the demolition of the World Trade Center,
Bin Fake-it says: "God has blessed a group of vanguard Muslims ...
to destroy America."
-
- So now bin Fake-it is rejoicing that US civilians were
killed, despite the fact that killing civilians was not bin Laden's goal.
Bin Fake-it fails to mention that these US civilians were killed on US
soil, even though Bin Laden's 1997 goal was simply to get them to leave
the Muslim countries. What a stunning switch of strategy.
-
-
- * Bin Laden's Goal: Get US Forces Out of
Muslim
lands, 1997 CNN video *
-
- Arnett asks if bin Laden will quit the jihad if US troops
leave Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden replies US troops must leave Arabia and
the rest of the Muslim world. "... we have declared jihad against
the US, because in our religion it is our duty to make jihad so that God's
word is the one exalted to the heights and so that we drive the Americans
away from all Muslim countries."
-
- So Bin Laden's goal was to get US military forces out
of Muslim lands. He does not say he wants to destroy America. He just
wants us to go away, much like we wanted the British to go away in
1776.
-
-
-
- * Bin Fake-it's goal: To DESTROY America,
2001 Taliban Home Video *
-
- The obvious result of bin Fake-it's words "God has
blessed a group of vanguard Muslims ... to destroy America" will be
used to justify increased military presence in Muslim lands and provides
the US with a perfect public relations justification to flood Afganistan
with US bombs and troops.
-
- Recall that in the war with the USSR, the Muslims did
not pursue the Russians onto Russian soil. The Muslims were satisfied
with driving them out of Afghanistan. But now bin Fake-it invites open
war, a war he cannot possibly win. Strategically, praising Operation 911
was a disaster for an accomplished strategist and tactician.
-
- * Bin Laden's expansive statements on Jewish
Control
of the United States, 1997 CNN interview *
-
- Search the 1997 text yourself for his words on this
matter.
"Due to its subordination to the Jews ..." See his other
references
to the US and Israel.
-
- * Bin Fake-it's statements on Jewish Control
of the United States, 2001 Taliban Home Video *
-
- Bin Fake-it doesn't mention that the Jews control
America.
Surely bin Laden wouldn't miss this golden opportunity to go to the heart
of the matter. After all, Operation 911 caused a big splash. We would
have had the patience to listen. But the Taliban Home Video was just a
minute or so long. Bin Fake-it was given just enough time to provide Tee
Vee sound bytes that damaged Muslims' interests, but not enough time to
expose those who wish to tear out Islam's heart. Very odd.
-
- * Bottom Line *
-
- Let's move on from those interviews and notice this:
The US now says it is "in no hurry" to catch bin Laden.
-
- "The Pentagon is in no hurry to try to catch or
kill Osama bin Laden as it orchestrates a step-by-step bombing campaign
over Afghanistan." ("Pentagon Will Not Rush Manhunt,"
Washington
Times, October 9, 2001.)
-
- But just a few weeks before the US DEMANDED that the
Taliban hand bin Laden over or the US would take military action . . .
. The refusal of the Taliban to hand bin Laden over without evidence or
judicial procedure was the causa belli of the military strikes.
-
- Recall that the US is accusing bin Laden of masterminding
the slaughter of approximately 7,000 Americans, and has said that he is
the brains and the money behind the Taliban. If those statements are true,
capturing him should be the first priority. Indeed, by October 11, the
FBI warns us that over the next several days, we should be aware of new
terrorist attacks, which would of course be directed by the pesky bin
Laden.
The Senate and the House of Representatives pass a draconian bill, allowing
suspension of our rights, but, remember: "The Pentagon is in no hurry
to try to catch or kill Osama bin Laden . . . "
-
- On October 14, CNN.com reported President Bush again
refused an offer by the Taliban to surrender bin Laden to a third country
if the US would produce evidence of his complicity in Operation 911.
("Afganistan
pounded in second week of airstrikes.")
-
- No, capturing or otherwise placing Osama bin-Laden in
custody would spoil the fun. It's better to have bin Fake-it on the
loose,
mouthing the words written by the NWO psyops team.
-
- *Al-Jazeera*
-
- The Taliban Home Video was first aired on the Qatar TV
station al-Jazeera. Al-Jazeera was founded only five years ago, during
what was probably the planning stages of this war. Al-Jazeera deserves
attention, and its getting some. It was the subject of a breathlessly
adoring article in the Washington Post's Style Section on October 9, 2001
("Qatar TV Station A Clear Channel To Middle East." )
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28526-2001Oct8.html
-
- " . . . it has the record of breaking exclusive
news stories that many American networks might envy," drools the Post.
Al-Jazeera followed up its broadcast of bin Fake-it "with an
interview
with British Prime Minister Tony Blair. Other recent interview guests
have included Secretary of State Colin Power and Israeli Foreign Minister
Shimon Peres."
-
- "What makes al-Jazeera's scoops all the more
remarkable
is that the 24-hour satellite news station is the creation of one of the
world's smallest countries, Qatar, and broadcasts out of a region with
little tradition of press freedom . . . "
-
- "Just as CNN became compulsory viewing around the
world during the 1991 Gulf War, so too is al Jazeera becoming an
indispensable
source of intelligence on events inside Afghanistan . . .
-
- To those who live far away from the Washington, D.C.
beltway, the significance of a Post STYLE article may not be apparent,
but know this: Whom our Jewish supremacist masters wish to raise up or
cast down -- these are accorded a feature article in STYLE section of the
Washington Post.
-
- Yes, al-Jazeera is just as Jewish as Seinfeld. Expect
more bin Fake-it news and bin Fake-it photos from al-Jazeera.
-
- * Votes, Please *
-
- So, how do you vote? Was the Taliban Home Video a
morphing
job, or was an Osama bin Laden impersonator used?
-
- The FBI votes for the impersonator. How do I know?
Look at the FBI's Most Wanted page and see the image of bin Laden they
are using.
-
- http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
-
- Not the grainy image we see in the Taliban Home Video,
is it? I have downloaded this FBI webpage for safekeeping, and advise
you to do the same, before the photo is replaced with another image.
-
- http://www.Public-Action.com/911/wtstandin.gif http://www.Public-Action.com
/911/standin.gif
(From Washington Times, October 8, 2001, pg. A3.)
-
- Note that the FBI says of its photo: "Date of
Photograph
unknown." Why not use a current image, the one in the Taliban Home
Video, if you believe that image is true?
-
- Come to think of it, why can't the FBI offer a date for
its photo of Public Enemy Number One? The world's foremost investigative
agency should know the source of its own material and find out when the
photo was taken. Is that too difficult?
-
- But don't expect reason or truth. Remember who you are
dealing with. Israel's puppet state -- let's agree to call it USrael --is
one of the most deceitful and ruthless nations on Earth, and the FBI is
one of its fix-it arms. You only need to remember the Waco Holocaust to
know that. So of course the case against Osama bin Laden, together with
the hokie Taliban Home Video, STINKS.
-
-
- "Bin Laden: A Patriot In His Own
Land"
and CNN
March 1977 Interview
- By Carol A. Valentine Curator
Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum http://www.Public-Actio
n.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
Copyright, August 1998
May be reproduced for non-commercial purposes.
-
- In March, 1997 Osama Bin Laden was interviewed by CNN.
In that interview, Bin Laden he made a number of incontestable
points:
-
- * " . . . the US government is unjust, criminal
and yrannical . . . . The mention of the US reminds us before everything
else of those innocent children who were dismembered, their heads and arms
cut off in the recent explosion that took place in Qana (in Lebanon) .
. . "
-
-
- [We're reading you, Mr. Bin Ladin. We watched the US
butcher American children in Waco. See: http:/
/www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/death.html
For video of the Qana massacre: http://www.middleeast.org/mer117.htm
]
-
- * The US is subordinated to Jewish/Israeli interests;
* The government of Saudi Arabia is a US-puppet government; * The US-puppet
Saudi government artificially holds down the price of oil; * The US-puppet
Saudi government thus conspires in the theft of Arabian natural resources;
* The price of oil should be set by the free market.
-
- "The US . . . wants to occupy our countries, steal
our resources, impose on us agents to rule us based not on what God has
revealed and wants us to agree on all this. If we refuse to do so, it
will say we are terrorists . . . At the time that they condemn any Muslim
who calls for his rights, they receive the highest top official of the
Irish Republican army at the White House as a political leader, while woe,
all woe, to the Muslims if they cry out for their rights. Wherever we
look we find the US as the leader of terrorism and crime in the
world."
-
- Osama Bin Laden sounds much like one of our own Founding
Fathers facing the tyranny of King George III. That we have gained the
enmity of this man is a bitter commentary on our own imperialism and our
own betrayal of the principles of the American Revolution.
-
- Notice how quickly the reporter gets down to the key
issue: the price of oil if Arabia was not a US puppet state (see third
question).
-
-
- ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Thanks
to Norm at http://www.flinet.com/~politics/ai
pac/
- for bringing my attention to the CNN interview.
-
-
- === Transcript of Osama Bin Laden interview
====
-
- The first-ever television interview with Osama Bin Ladin
was conducted by Peter Arnett in eastern Afghanistan in late March 1997.
Questions were submitted in advance. Bin Ladin responded to almost all
of the questions. CNN was not allowed to ask follow up questions. The
interview lasted just over an hour.
-
- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
could you give us your main criticism of the Saudi royal Family that is
ruling Saudi Arabia today?
-
- MR. BIN LADIN: Regarding
the criticisms of the ruling regime in Saudi Arabia and the Arabian
peninsula,
the first one is their subordination to the US. So, our main problem is
the US government while the Saudi regime is but a branch or an agent of
the US. By being loyal to the US regime, the Saudi regime has committed
an act against Islam. And this, based on the ruling of Shari'a (Islamic
jurisprudence), casts the regime outside the religious community.
Subsequently,
the regime has stopped ruling people according to what God revealed, praise
and glory be to Him, not to mention many other contradictory acts. When
this main foundation was violated, other corrupt acts followed in every
aspect of the country, the economic, the social, government services and
so on.
-
- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
if the Islamic movement takes over Arabia, what kind of society will be
created and will Saudi Arabia, for example, return to the laws of the
Qur'an
at the time of the Prophet?
-
- BIN LADIN: We are confident,
with the permission of God, Praise and Glory be to Him, that Muslims will
be victorious in the Arabian peninsula and that God's religion, praise
and glory be to Him, will prevail in this peninsula. It is a great pride
and a big hope that the revelation unto Muhammad, Peace be upon him, will
be resorted to for ruling. When we used to follow Muhammad's revelation,
Peace be upon him, we were in great happiness and in great dignity, to
God belong credit and praise.
-
- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
if the Islamic movement takes over Saudi Arabia, what would your attitude
to the West be and will the price of oil be higher?
-
- BIN LADIN: We are a nation
and have a long history, with the grace of God, Praise and Glory be to
Him. We are now in the 15th century of this great religion, the complete
and comprehensive methodology, has clarified the dealing between an
individual
and another, the duties of the believer towards God, Praise and Glory be
to Him, and the relationship between the Muslim country and other countries
in time of peace and in time of war. If we look back at our history, we
will find there were many types of dealings between the Muslim nation and
the other nations in time of peace and in time of war, including treaties
and matters to do with commerce. So it is not a new thing that we need
to come up with. Rather, it already, by the grace of God, exists. As for
oil, it is a commodity that will be subject to the price of the market
according to supply and demand. We believe that the current prices are
not realistic due to the Saudi regime playing the role of a US agent and
the pressures exercised by the US on the Saudi regime to increase
production
and flooding the market that caused a sharp decrease in oil prices.
-
- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
you've declared a jihad against the United States. Can you tell us why?
And is the jihad directed against the US government or the United States'
troops in Arabia? What about US civilians in Arabia or the people of the
United States?
-
- BIN LADIN: We declared jihad
against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal
and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous
and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli
occupation
of the Prophet's Night Travel Land (Palestine). And we believe the US is
directly responsible for those who were killed in Palestine, Lebanon and
Iraq. The mention of the US reminds us before everything else of those
innocent children who were dismembered, their heads and arms cut off in
the recent explosion that took place in Qana (in Lebanon). This US
government
abandoned even humanitarian feelings by these hideous crimes. It
transgressed
all bounds and behaved in a way not witnessed before by any power or any
imperialist power in the world. They should have been considerate that
the qibla (Mecca) of the Muslims upheaves the emotion of the entire Muslim
World. Due to its subordination to the Jews the arrogance and haughtiness
of the US regime has reached, to the extent that they occupied the qibla
of the Muslims (Arabia) who are more than a billion in the world today.
For this and other acts of aggression and injustice, we have declared jihad
against the US, because in our religion it is our duty to make jihad so
that God's word is the one exalted to the heights and so that we drive
the Americans away from all Muslim countries. As for what you asked whether
jihad is directed against US soldiers, the civilians in the land of the
Two Holy Places (Saudi Arabia, Mecca and Medina) or against the civilians
in America, we have focused our declaration on striking at the soldiers
in the country of The Two Holy Places. The country of the Two Holy Places
has in our religion a peculiarity of its own over the other Muslim
countries.
In our religion, it is not permissible for any non-Muslim to stay in our
country. Therefore, even though American civilians are not targeted in
our plan, they must leave. We do not guarantee their safety, because we
are in a society of more than a billion Muslims. A reaction might take
place as a result of US government's hitting Muslim civilians and executing
more than 600 thousand Muslim children in Iraq by preventing food and
medicine
from reaching them. So, the US is responsible for any reaction, because
it extended its war against troops to civilians. This is what we say. As
for what you asked regarding the American people, they are not exonerated
from responsibility, because they chose this government and voted for it
despite their knowledge of its crimes in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and in
other places and its support of its agent regimes who filled our prisons
with our best children and scholars. We ask that may God release
them.
-
-
- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
will the end of the United States' presence in Saudi Arabia, their
withdrawal,
will that end your call for jihad against the United States and against
the US ?
-
- BIN LADIN: The cause of the
reaction must be sought and the act that has triggered this reaction must
be eliminated. The reaction came as a result of the US aggressive policy
towards the entire Muslim world and not just towards the Arabian peninsula.
So if the cause that has called for this act comes to an end, this act,
in turn, will come to an end. So, the driving-away jihad against the US
does not stop with its withdrawal from the Arabian peninsula, but rather
it must desist from aggressive intervention against Muslims in the whole
world.
-
- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
tell us about your experience during the Afghan war and what did you do
during that jihad?
-
- BIN LADIN: Praise be to God,
the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds, that He made it possible for
us to aid the Mujahidin in Afghanistan without any declaration for jihad.
It was rather the news that was broadcast by radio stations that the Soviet
Union invaded a Muslim country. This was a sufficient motivation for me
to start to aid our brothers in Afghanistan. I have benefitted so greatly
from the jihad in Afghanistan that it would have been impossible for me
to gain such a benefit from any other chance and this cannot be measured
by tens of years but rather more than that, Praise and Gratitude be to
God. In spite of the Soviet power, we used to move with confidence and
God conferred favors on us so that we transported heavy equipment from
the country of the Two Holy Places (Arabia) estimated at hundreds of tons
altogether that included bulldozers, loaders, dump trucks and equipment
for digging trenches. When we saw the brutality of the Russians bombing
Mujahidins' positions, by the grace of God, we dug a good number of huge
tunnels and built in them some storage places and in some others we built
a hospital. We also dug some roads, by the grace of God, Praise and glory
be to Him, one of which you came by to us tonight. So our experience in
this jihad was great, by the grace of God, praise and glory be to Him,
and the most of what we benefitted from was that the myth of the super
power was destroyed not only in my mind but also in the minds of all
Muslims.
Slumber and fatigue vanished and so was the terror which the US would use
in its media by attributing itself super power status or which the Soviet
Union used by attributing itself as a super power. Today, the entire Muslim
world, by the grace of God, has imbibed the faithful spirit of strength
and started to interact in a good manner in order to bring an end to
occupation
and the Western and American influence on our countries.
-
- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
what was the significance of the Afgan war for the Islamic movement?
Veterans
of that war are fighting for Islamic movements and conflicts from the
former
Soviet republics such as Chechnya to Bosnia to Algeria. Can you explain
that phenomenon to us?
-
- BIN LADIN: As I mentioned
in my answer to the previous question, the effect of jihad has been great
not only at the level of the Islamic movement but rather at the level of
the Muslim nation in the whole world. The spirit of power, dignity and
confidence has grown in our sons and brothers for this religion and the
power of God, Praise and Glory be to Him. And it has become apparent even
to the Islamic movement that there is no choice but return to the original
spring, to this religion, to God's Book, Praise and Glory be to Him, and
to the sunna of His Prophet, Peace be upon him, as understood by our
predecessors,
may God be pleased with them. Of this, the acme of this religion is jihad.
The nation has had a strong conviction that there is no way to obtain
faithful
strength but by returning to this jihad. The influence of the Afghan jihad
on the Islamic world was so great and it necessitates that people should
rise above many of their differences and unite their efforts against their
enemy. Today, the nation is interacting well by uniting its efforts through
jihad against the US which has in collaboration with the Israeli government
led the ferocious campaign against the Islamic World in occupying the holy
sites of the Muslims. As for the young men who participated in jihad here,
their number, by the grace of God, was quite big, Praise and Gratitude
be to Him, and they spread in every place in which non believers' injustice
is perpetuated against Muslims. Their going to Bosnia, Chechnya, Tajikistan
and other countries is but a fulfillment of a duty, because we believe
that these states are part of the Islamic World. Therefore, any act of
aggression against any of this land of a span of hand measure makes it
a duty for Muslims to send a sufficient number of their sons to fight off
that aggression.
-
- REPORTER: Can you tell us
now about your expulsion from Saudi Arabia and your time you spent in Sudan
and your arrival here in Afganistan?
-
-
- BIN LADIN: I was, by the
grace of God, Praise and Glory be to Him, in the great spot that is dear
to God, Praise and Glory be to Him, al-hijaz, especially Venerable Mecca,
where is God's Ancient House. However, the Saudi regime imposed on the
people a life that does not appeal to the free believer. They wanted the
people to eat and drink and celebrate the praise of God, but if the people
wanted to encourage what is right and forbid what is wrong, they can't.
Rather, the regime dismisses them from their jobs and in the event they
continued to do so, they are detained in prisons. I have rejected to live
this submissive life, by God's favor, Praise and Gratitude be to Him, that
is not befitting of man let alone a believer. So, I waited for the chance
until, God, Praise and Glory be to Him, has made it possible for me to
leave the country of the Two Holy Places. I hope God, Praise and Glory
be to Him, would confer upon me His favor to return one day when God's
law rules in that country. I went to the Sudan and stayed there for about
five years during which I visited Afghanistan and Pakistan to work against
the Communist government in Kabul. When the Saudi government transgressed
in oppressing all voices of the scholars and the voices of those who call
for Islam, I found myself forced, especially after the government prevented
Sheik Salman al-Awdah and Sheik Safar al-Hawali and some other scholars,
to carry out a small part of my duty of enjoining what is right and
forbidding
what is wrong. So, I collaborated with some brothers and established a
committee for offering advice and we started to publish some declarations.
(The Advice and Reformation Committee). However, the Saudi regime did not
like this and started to exercise pressure on the Sudanese regime. The
US government, the Egyptian government and the Yemeni government also
helped
in doing so. They requested me explicitly from the Sudanese regime and
the pressure continued. Saudi Arabia dropped all of its conditions put
to the Sudanese regime in return that I be driven out of the Sudan. The
US government had already taken the same stance and pulled out its
diplomatic
mission from Khartoum and put forth their condition to return only after
I have left. Unfortunately, the Sudanese government was in some difficult
circumstances and there was a tendency inside the government that was
inclined
to reconciliation or surrender. Then, when they insisted initially that
I should keep my mouth shut, I decided to look for a land in which I can
breathe a pure, free air to perform my duty in enjoining what is right
and forbidding what is wrong. I ask God, Praise and Glory be to Him, for
increase in prosperity for this great land, the Land of Khurasan
(Afghanistan)
in order to carry on this duty. So, we implore God, Praise and Glory be
to Him, that He accept (our deeds) from us and the Muslims.
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- REPORTER: Now, the United
States government says that you are still funding military training camps
here in Afganistan for militant, Islamic fighters and that you are a
sponsor
of international terrorism; but others describe you as the new hero of
the Arab-Islamic world. Are these accusations true? How do you describe
yourself?
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- BIN LADIN: After the collapse
of the Soviet Union in which the US has no mentionable role, but rather
the credit goes to God, Praise and Glory be to Him, and the Mujahidin in
Afghanistan, this collapse made the US more haughty and arrogant and it
has started to look at itself as a Master of this world and established
what it calls the new world order. It wanted to delude people that it can
do whatever it wants, but it can't do this. It leveled against me and
others
as many accusations as it desired and wished. It is these (accusations)
that you mentioned. The US today as a result of the arrogant atmosphere
has set a double standard, calling whoever goes against its injustice a
terrorist. It wants to occupy our countries, steal our resources, impose
on us agents to rule us based not on what God has revealed and wants us
to agree on all these. If we refuse to do so, it will say you are
terrorists.
With a simple look at the US behaviors, we find that it judges the behavior
of the poor Palestinian children whose country was occupied: if they throw
stones against the Israeli occupation, it says they are terrorists whereas
when the Israeli pilots bombed the United Nations building in Qana, Lebanon
while was full of children and women, the US stopped any plan to condemn
Israel. At the time that they condemn any Muslim who calls for his right,
they receive the highest top official of the Irish Republican Army (Gerry
Adams) at the White House as a political leader, while woe, all woe is
the Muslims if they cry out for their rights. Wherever we look, we find
the US as the leader of terrorism and crime in the world. The US does not
consider it a terrorist act to throw atomic bombs at nations thousands
of miles away, when it would not be possible for those bombs to hit
military
troops only. These bombs were rather thrown at entire nations, including
women, children and elderly people and up to this day the traces of those
bombs remain in Japan. The US does not consider it terrorism when hundreds
of thousands of our sons and brothers in Iraq died for lack of food or
medicine. So, there is no base for what the US says and this saying does
not affect us, because we, by the grace of God, are dependent on Him,
Praise
and Glory be to Him, getting help from Him against the US. As for the last
part of your question, we are fulfilling a duty which God, Praise and Glory
be to Him, decreed for us. We look upon those heroes, those men who
undertook
to kill the American occupiers in Riyadh and Khobar (Dhahran). We describe
those as heroes and describe them as men. They have pulled down the
disgrace
and submissiveness off the forehead of their nation. We ask Allah, Praise
and Glory be to Him, to accept them as martyrs.
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- REPORTER: Let's go to the
bombings of United States troops in Riyadh and Dhahran. Why did they happen
and were you and your supporters involved in these attacks?
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- BIN LADIN: We ask about the
main reason that called for this explosion. This explosion was a reaction
to a US provocation of the Muslim peoples, in which the US transgressed
in its aggression until it reached the qibla of the Muslims in the whole
world. So, the purpose of the two explosions is to get the American
occupation
out (of Arabia). So if the U.S. does not want to kill its sons who are
in the army, then it has to get out.
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- REPORTER: On the same issue
of the American troops in Saudi Arabia, do you think there will be more
bombing attacks on them? or attacks on U.S. civilians in Arabia? or assassination attempts for example, on the Saudi royal families?
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- BIN LADIN: As for the
previous
question, the explosion of Riyadh and the one in Al-Khobar (Dhahran). It
is no secret that during the two explosions, I was not in Saudi Arabia,
but I have great respect for the people who did this action. I say, as
I said before, they are heroes. We look upon them as men who wanted to
raise the flag of "There is no God but Allah", and to put an
end the non believers and the state of injustice that the U.S. brought.
I also say that what they did is a great job and a big honor that I missed
participating in.
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- REPORTER: Do you think there
will be more bombing attacks on American troops in Saudi Arabia? or attacks
on American civilians in Saudi Arabia? or will there be assassination
attempts
on the Saudi Arabian ruling family?
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- BIN LADIN: It is known that
every action has its reaction. If the American presence continues, and
that is an action, then it is natural for reactions to continue against
this presence. In other words, explosions and killings of the American
soldiers would continue. These are the troops who left their country and
their families and came here with all arrogance to steal our oil and
disgrace
us, and attack our religion. As for what was mentioned about the ruling
(Saudi) family those in charge, do bear the full responsibility of
everything
that may happen. They are the shadow of the American presence. The people
and the young men are concentrating their efforts on the sponsor and not
on the sponsored. The concentration at this point of Jihad is against the
American occupiers.
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- REPORTER: What are your views
about Sheik Omar Abdul Rahman and have you ever met him? Do you know
him?
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- BIN LADIN: Sheik Omar Abdul
Rahman is a Muslim scholar well-known all over the Muslim world. He
represents
the kind of injustice that is adopted by the U.S. A baseless case was
fabricated
against him even though he is a blind old man. We ask Allah, The Almighty,
to relieve him. The U.S. sentenced him to hundreds of years just to please
its caprice and the whims of the Egyptian regime. He is now very badly
treated and in no way fit for an old man like him or any Muslim
scholar.
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- REPORTER: The U.S. State
Department quoting a Pakistani official says that Ramzi Yousef, a convicted
bomber in the World Trade Center in New York City stayed in the house you
funded in Peshawar, Pakistan for those receiving training during the Afghan
conflict after the Trade Center bombing, is that true? Did Ramzi Yousef
stay in your house in Peshawar?
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- BIN LADIN: I do not know
Ramzi Yousef. What the American government and Pakistani intelligence has
been reporting is not true at all. But I say if the American government
is serious about avoiding the explosions inside the U.S., then let it stop
provoking the feelings of 1,250 million Muslims. Those hundreds of
thousands
who have been killed or displaced in Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, do have
brothers and relatives. They would make of Ramzi Yousef a symbol and a
teacher. The U.S. will drive them to transfer the battle into the United
States. Everything is made possible to protect the blood of the American
citizen while the bloodshed of Muslims is allowed in every place. With
this kind of behavior, the U.S. government is hurting itself, hurting
Muslims
and hurting the American people.
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- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
were you involved in financing the bombing of the World Trade Center in
New York City?
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- BIN LADIN: I have no
connection
or relation with this explosion.
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- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
in a recent interview with an Arabic newspaper, you said that Arabs who
fought in the Afghan war killed U.S. troops in Mogadishu, Somalia. Can
you tell us about that?
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- BIN LADIN: The U.S.
government
went there with great pride and stayed there for some time with a strong
media presence wanting to frighten people that it is the greatest power
on earth. It went there with pride and with over 28,000 soldiers, to a
poor unarmed people in Somalia. The goal of this was to scare the Muslim
world and the whole world saying that it is able to do whatever it desires.
As soon as the troops reached the Mogadishu beaches, they found no one
but children. The CNN and other media cameras started photographing them
(the soldiers) with their camouflage and heavy arms, entering with a parade
crawling (on the ground) and showing themselves to the world as the
"greatest
power on earth". Resistance started against the American invasion,
because Muslims do not believe the U.S. allegations that they came to save
the Somalis. A man with human feelings in his heart does not distinguish
between a child killed in Palestine or in Lebanon, in Iraq or in Bosnia.
So how can we believe your claims that you came to save our children in
Somalia while you kill our children in all of those places?
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- With Allah's grace, Muslims over there, cooperated with
some Arab "Mujahideen" who were in Afghanistan. They participated
with their brothers in Somalia against the American occupation troops and
killed large numbers of them. The American administration was aware of
that. After a little resistance. The American troops left after achieving
nothing. They left after claiming that they were the largest power on
earth.
They left after some resistance from powerless, poor, unarmed people whose
only weapon is the belief in Allah The Almighty, and who do not fear the
fabricated American media lies. We learned from those who fought there,
that they were surprised to see the low spiritual morale of the American
fighters in comparison with the experience they had with the Russian
fighters.
The Americans ran away from those fighters who fought and killed them,
while the latter were still there. If the U.S. still thinks and brags that
it still has this kind of power even after all these successive defeats
in Vietnam, Beirut, Aden, and Somalia, then let them go back to those who
are awaiting its return.
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- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Laden,
your family is a rich powerful family in Saudi Arabia. Have they, or the
Saudi Arabian government asked you to stop your activities?
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- BIN LADIN: They have done
that a lot. They have pressured us a lot, especially since a lot of our
money is still in the hands of the Saudi ruling family due to activities
of the our family and company (Saudi construction giant, the Bin Ladin
Group). They sent me my mother, my uncle, and my brothers in almost nine
visits to Khartoum (Sudan) asking me to stop and return to Arabia to
apologize
to King Fahd. I apologized to my family kindly because I know that they
were driven by force to come to talk to me. This regime wants to create
a problem between me and my family and in order to take some measures
against
them. But, with Allah's grace, this regime did not get its wish fulfilled.
I refused to go back. They (my family) conveyed the Saudi government's
message that if I did not go back, they'll freeze all my assets, deprive
me of my citizenship, my passport, and my Saudi I.D. and distort my picture
in the Saudi and foreign media. They think that a Muslim may bargain on
his religion. I said to them do whatever you may wish. It is with Allah's
bounty, we refused to go back. We are living in dignity and honor for whom
we thank Allah. It is much better for us to live under a tree here on these
mountains than to live in palaces in the most sacred land to Allah, while
being subjected to disgrace not worshipping Allah even in the most sacred
land on earth, where injustice is so widespread. There is no strength
except
with Allah.
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- REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin,
have Saudi agents attempted to assassinate you? Are you targeted by the
U.S. government? Are you in fact in fear of your life?
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- BIN LADIN: The U.S. pressures
are no secret to you. The Saudi pressures are also in response to American
pressures. There were several attempts to arrest me or to assassinate me.
This has been going on for more than seven years. With Allah's grace, none
of these attempts succeeded. This is a proof in itself to Muslims and to
the world that the U.S. is incapable and weaker than the picture it wants
to draw in people's mind. A believer must rest assured that life is only
in the hands of Allah, and sustenance is also in the hands of Allah, the
Almighty. As for fearing for one's life, it is difficult to explain to
you how we think of ourselves, unless you have full belief. We believe
that no one could take out one breath of our written life as ordained by
Allah. We see that we see that getting killed in the cause of Allah is
a great honor wished for by our Prophet (PBUH). He said in his Hadith:
"I swear to Allah, I wish to fight for Allah's cause and be killed,
I'll do it again and be killed, and I'll do it again and be killed".
Being killed for Allah's cause is a great honor achieved by only those
who are the elite of the nation. We love this kind of death for Allah's
cause as much as you like to live. We have nothing to fear for. It is
something
we wish for.
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- REPORTER: What are your
future
plans?
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- BIN LADIN: You'll see them
and hear about them in the media, God willing.
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